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    Viper VS. Z06 - VIDEO!!

    Goodbye. A$$holes like this Ron have worn me out, you win. J Smith ASKS me to find him some racers, I comply. Russ challenges me to a "test", I find him an alternative. Carrot posts on our forum, we are respectful to him. There are just too many people here who have never learned manners, and to...
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    Viper VS. Z06 - VIDEO!!

    Carrot, Check out the video, you will see for yourself. I take you at your word, and assume you are stock - if you like I will try and get some Dallas Z06 members to show you a good time at the track. All for fun (and education). Peace, Les
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    Viper VS. Z06 - VIDEO!!

    It is a real shame that we can't behave on these forums like we do in person. Here is Ryan's post on the reults at VIR showing Viper and Z06 owners can and do play well together. If you scroll down to a post from Tim he has a pretty neat video. Les...
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    Viper VS. Z06 - VIDEO!!

    John, I will hook you up - thanks for the detals. Russ - do you read what you type?? I said I never called you a troll on this forum (I didn't), and said I did on the vette forum, which is what you pasted? As for tires I assumed your lack of being straight up about mods potentially included...
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    Viper VS. Z06 - VIDEO!!

    J Smith, Let me know what 1/4 mile track is nearby (track name ans city please) and I will see if I can scare up a Z06 or two to have some fun. Let me know your mods and times too. Not a big deal either way, as Gary said both parties will still drive home in a great car :) Mrs. McRat...
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    Viper VS. Z06 - VIDEO!!

    Mrs. McRat, Don't worry about being 100% stock, he isn't either. Also watch the wording on the tires, seems he wants to run aftermarket rubber and say you are limited to the F1SC's. Not sure why Russ cares what mods you have, since it is impossible (according to him) for any Z06 to run better...
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    Viper VS. Z06 - VIDEO!!

    Yep Russ, I called you a keyboard racer, still do. When you show up and race I will get off that topic. I called you a troll on the Vette forum too (not here, that would have been rude, this is a Viper forum and guests should behave accordingly, like you should when you visit the Vette forum)...
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    Viper VS. Z06 - VIDEO!!

    Russ, Chill out dude, why do YOU always have to show attitude? I don't come to this forum or thread very often, and I don't read back over all the posts. I am truly glad you are going to "test" with the McRat's (hopefully your Supra pal Kal as well, he seems like a good guy). So have you guys...
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    Viper VS. Z06 - VIDEO!!

    Welcome to the fun Mrs McRat, I see on the Vette forum Russ has agreed to hook up with you and Pat and "test" the cars. Have a good time and show them what you can do. There are also a couple of folks ready to road race as well. Nothing will be settled, the debate is endless. Les
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    Viper VS. Z06 - VIDEO!!

    Russ, For the record I never posted a video of me beating a Viper, let alone one running a 13.5! You continue to deflect, deny, deceive and discredit when challenged. The slowest Viper I have ever raced ran a 12.6 (Gen1), the fastest was a 12.1X, most were around a 12.4, which is why I said...
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    Viper VS. Z06 - VIDEO!!

    Gary, Thanks for the kind words - you are OK in my book as well. I think you know I have zero tolerance for trolls, even when they are Vette guys on "our" forum. It is OK with me if folks want to doubt my numbers, I have the timeslips and witnesses to back it up, I didn't come here to argue the...
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    Viper VS. Z06 - VIDEO!!

    McRat, Stay focused on the race, don't let Russ excuse his way out of it. I am leaving the thread as the topic is pretty well done until you three (you, your wife and Russ) race and post the video. I sincerely hope he shows up but I increasingly doubt it. We shall see. To people like Chris and...
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    Viper VS. Z06 - VIDEO!!

    Quote: Les - Thanks for your continued comments and patience with some of these posts. If you ever come to Kansas City there are several Vipers here that would love to run some Z06's - stock or otherwise. Me included! Chris Chris, Thanks for the note, life is too short to get down in the...
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    Viper VS. Z06 - VIDEO!!

    Russ, Here was your post when you called us out: (quote from Russ)Les, I totally agree with you on the driver part of the equation, no doubt a poor Viper driver will get spanked by even a normal c5 vette. But 2 tenths of a second is not even close to reality. I am tired of this pointless...
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    Viper VS. Z06 - VIDEO!!

    SB, The part that you miss is that McRat is 4-0 against Vipers, I am 12-0. How can that be, we drive such slow cars? A mystery for sure :) However I could lose tomorrow, and that would be OK too. I have lost many times to other drivers/cars, and I will lose again. I don't have a superiority...
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    Viper VS. Z06 - VIDEO!!

    Actually my Z06 with the mods listed makes 383 RWHP. Les Quote: 120 mph in an almost stock z06 with 360 or so RWHP??? huh? -------------------- '98 GTS
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    Viper VS. Z06 - VIDEO!!

    Russ, Here is the post from Pat (and his wife). He accepts the challenge and has listed his mods. His email is included, you two agree a time and place and Pat will video the event for ALL to see. More may accept the challenge, so I will have Pat let the Vette forums know so that we can have...
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    Viper VS. Z06 - VIDEO!!

    JohnC: First, Don't lump all Viper guys in with Russ, most aren't like him. Some Vette owners are socially retarded as well, we don't like to be compared to them either :) Russ: I have someone with a Z06 in so cal who will meet you at Carlisbad Raceway any time. He has a few minor...
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    Viper VS. Z06 - VIDEO!!

    Russ, I came in to have an intelligent discussion with fellow car guys about the Z06 since most of you (yourself included) are as ignorant about Z06's as we are about Vipers. You learn when you keep your mouth (and keyboard) quiet and listen. My mods were CAI (cold air - Vararam) and...
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    Viper VS. Z06 - VIDEO!!

    Russ, Where do you race in Cal? Are you bone stock including tires? Let me know what mods, if any, you are running and tires. I haven't seen you post any times, but that may be I am not looking hard enough. I'll poke some of my Z06 brothers and see if we can come up with someone, with...
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    Viper VS. Z06 - VIDEO!!

    Hi Dean, You seem very reasonable with your post, and I don't see a lot to disagree with. Many here have agreed that a bone stock GenII, depending on track prep, density altitude, and driver skill runs 12.2 - 12.6, with exceptions on both sides of that number. Bone stock Z06's run 12.4 - 12.8...
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    Viper VS. Z06 - VIDEO!!

    2MANY: I agree with your assessment. If you have raced in Atlanta you may know Optic, who ran a 12.0 bone stock with 450 miles on his odometer. As a former Z06 owner you may know that J-Rod, Powershifter, Ranger and a few others (at the track, in front of witnesses) have run high 11's bone...
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    Viper VS. Z06 - VIDEO!!

    Russ, Yes I am for real. and I stand behind what I said, which I believe was respectful as this is your forum. If you live at the 1/4 mile track and don't see Z06's running 11'd with drag radials you should change tracks. I took a guy here in Atlanta with a bone stock 2001 who had NEVER drag...
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    Viper VS. Z06 - VIDEO!!

    Most bone stock Z06' run 12.5 - 12.8, there are exceptions on both sides of that number, there are 2 guys who have made it into the 11's bone stock. Add drag radials and most drivers are capable of high 11's, some as low as 11.5, but USUALLY they would have some bolt-on mods. I have raced...
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    Paging VIPEME in Atlanta

    I rarely post over here in the Viper forum, but I got a chance to drive a co-workers 2003 Viper and I must say it is a FINE example of american muscle car! From the looks of the recent Motor Trend report my Z06 (and driver)will have to be on it's "A" game to even hang close :) Anyway I was on...
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