A&C Performance and VEC3 great job

Discussion in 'Vendor Review: A&C Performance' started by dipapa, Dec 21, 2008.

  1. dipapa

    dipapa Enthusiast

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    It has been a great experience working with Todd Abrams, owner and tuner of A&C Performance in Murrieta, CA for about 6 months now slowly and succesfully modifying my '05 Copperhead.

    My goal for '08 year with my Copperhead was to extract as much power as possible, have awesome throttle response without modifying engine internals or going forced induction. Well Todd has made me one happy customer. He just completed a great install and tune of the VEC3 for me. The dyno numbers speak for themselves (521 rwhp and 538 rwtq from his conservatively rated Dyno Dynamics System. On a Dynojet, these numbers be about 20hp higher). This is with American Racing Headers and Cats and stock mufflers.

    After speaking to Todd on several occasions he knew exactly what i was looking for with my Viper so he suggested the VEC3. With the VEC3 and Todd's tuning, throttle response and liveliness of the motor is incredible. Laying into throttle moderately, while in 3rd or 4th the car instantly reacts very strongly with each 100 rpm increase of the motor. Hitting the throttle hard is an amazing burst of power. Power is one thing but having a crisp reactive throttle tune takes the fun factor of my Viper to another level. I am a firm believer, and feeling the rush of acceleration is believing, in Todd's tuning work. The car has made great gains with the VEC3. The car is more powerful, more responsive and the engine is much smoother. We just couldnt get the stock computer to feel the same. The car feels fantastic now. My Viper was strong before the VEC3 install (488 rwhp & 510 rwtq) and with the VEC3 I went to (521rwhp and 538 rwtq) a gain of 33 rwhp and 28rwtq. I think anyone be satisfied with those numbers from a naturally aspirated stock motor SRT-10.


    Keep up the good work Todd and see you again next year for your custom Paxton Setup!!!
     
  2. MarcRoth

    MarcRoth Enthusiast

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    So what kind of $$ we looking at for the new power.
     
  3. Nader

    Nader Viper Owner

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    Wrong place for my post... Sorry.
     
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  4. snakebite52

    snakebite52 Viper Owner

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    6 months for only that?
     
  5. dipapa

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    Hmmmm. Just doing the right mods slowly in stages. Im in no rush. I thought i could avoid a seperate engine management system, however it turned out to be a very good mod. Todd did the VEC3 install & tune in 2 days.
     
  6. dipapa

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    Not sure what you mean by that. Just keeping it at 1 or 2 mods every other month and taking good data for each mod.
     
  7. ACPERFORMANCE

    ACPERFORMANCE Viper Owner

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    Dipapa has been COMING to A&C Performance for almost 6 months. He's a busy guy so we did the work in stages.

    Exhaust, tune and Throttle body came first. Then a few months later, a cat-back change to get the sound where he wanted it, and now just adding the Vec3. We picked up alot of torque down low and especially across the curve.

    Time wise Dipapa dropped the car off on Thursday. I stayed late to get the install done that night. Friday we did all the tuning and even did a 101 octane tune.

    So maybe a day and a half total.

    The car turned out amazing. It's strong, smooth and will surely own some people on the road. A very nice mod that will compliment the supercharger when we add it next year.

    Price? $2300 installed with 2 pump gas tunes and one race gas tune. All connections soldered with proper heat shrink and weatherproof connections. Immaculate install, awesome gains.

    Dimitri, we appreciate you bringing your Viper to us and being so patient while we were moving to our new facility. As always enjoy the car if you need anything just ring my cell.

    Todd
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    41665 Eastman Drive Suite 20
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  8. 2001 GTS

    2001 GTS Viper Owner

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    Didn't know the VEC3 worked on the new cars? Guess so
     
  9. kwiksilver

    kwiksilver Viper Owner

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    It's an '05 copperhead. :2tu:
     
  10. ViperTony

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    Todd, was the SCT an option at the time? The reason I ask is that the SCT can do things that the Vec3 can't do such as tune for closed loop operations, turn on the radiator fan at a lower temp, smoother acceleration, etc. I was curious what made you pick the Vec3 over the SCT.
     
  11. Paul Hawker

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    Todd and Mike have developed a tremendous reputation from the SoCal guys.

    They go the extra mile to provide professional Viper services.

    Have a excellent working relationship with the other shops, so can provide everything from complete engine builds, to paint, to alignments to dyno work.
     
  12. ACPERFORMANCE

    ACPERFORMANCE Viper Owner

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    We haven't spent much time with the SCT, although we have beein intouch with the advances on it. I haven't heard to many positives on the SCT with boosted Vipers. It seems a good choice on NA cars. We have alot of success with our PCM reflashing in conjunction with the VEC. We get ultra smooth acceleration, stock driveability, it's boost friendly and we like the Methanol injection control.

    But the main reason for the Vec on Dipapa's car was the future plans. Although I see the SCT on 1000 HPR mustangs and Gt-40's I haven't seen to many big HP Vipers using it. Bang for the Buck I think the VEC has some versatility.

    Todd
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  13. ACPERFORMANCE

    ACPERFORMANCE Viper Owner

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    Paul,

    We haven't seen you in too long. We just moved to a new, much larger location. Come visit us. You need to take your "old" car for a spin anyhow.

    Todd
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    41665 Eastman Drive Suite 20
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  14. Paul Hawker

    Paul Hawker Viper Owner

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    Todd and Mike.

    Will come up to see you guys at ViperClub event.

    Love to get a ride in the old Silver Bullet.

    Maybe time to buy it back...
     
  15. Newport Viper

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    If the Silver Bullet is the car Todd drives.... it sounds Mean!
     
  16. Newport Viper

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    You are all cordially invited…
    We are happy to announce the Grand Opening of A&C Performance’s new 6600 square foot facility on Saturday, June 6, 2009, from 10:00am–2:00pm. A&C Performance will be providing lunch, drinks and a raffle for everyone who attends. We are expecting a large turnout with the afternoon being extremely comfortable, entertaining and educational for all of our guests. Also, come meet the A&C PERFAORMACE GIRLS. Paxton Superchargers, Race Technologies, and So Cal Jax Wax will be bringing out booths with products and information for all who are interested. At the closing of the event we are coordinating a tour of the Temecula Wine Country stopping at a noted Vineyard to complete the day. A&C hopes to see you there.

     
  17. vipzilla

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    yes i agree 1000% todd is exellent he has helped me threw my build and is still helping me now with my fuel system and i am in mass. Its like having him in my garrage when i have him on the phone. I have goteen some great parts from him the best radiator so far too ...hey todd dont forget to build my fuel pump set up ......roger
     
  18. ACPERFORMANCE

    ACPERFORMANCE Viper Owner

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    Roger I've been trying to call you. Give me a call.

    Todd
     

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