Gen V Convertible?

Discussion in 'Generation V Discussions / SRT Coupe, GTS, GTC, AC' started by cashcorn, May 9, 2013.

  1. DMan

    DMan Viper Owner

    Posts:
    1,855
    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2006
    Location:
    Maryland
    Sounds like you've convinced yourself that decorative hoops are a rollbar, which is cool, but trust me, no one else is drinking that cool aide. Real bars bolt thru plates with 5 fasteners or welding or both. Including this viper I've put 5 rollbars in my verts. I won't bet my life or my sons life on decorative-hoops. Some people are comfortable riding motorcycles without helmets, everyone's got their own level of comfort with things. I have seen 2 vipers after roll overs with autoforms in them and I'm convinced that's 3 lives that were saved by those bars.

    I've had 2 BMW verts and both in the $50k range and both with ROLPS, even accepted by SCCA right from the factory for track events. It's lame to me that a $100+K car, an exotic at that, can't manage a ROLPS option at least. And I hate tearing into my brand new car to make it safe, and trust if you've installed a real rollbar, you tear into the car. Those lame brackets that hold the hoops on to the cross bar and nothing by comparison. But to each his own. Seems like a power top is a big deal to many, which to me seems like a nit pick, so what do I know.
     
  2. DMan

    DMan Viper Owner

    Posts:
    1,855
    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2006
    Location:
    Maryland
    Oh if only this would be an option. I'd be locked and loaded for this. I'm closer to a coupe than I ever have been this go round, 3 verts, I'm waiting to see what they do with the vert, but who knows, which is amazing for me, I've loved my verts. Can't wait to be in a position to decide though! I do know if I could order a TA, I'd say what vert, and order away. LoL
     
  3. SLViper

    SLViper Viper Owner

    Posts:
    138
    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2005
    Location:
    Nashville, TN
  4. Indy

    Indy Enthusiast

    Posts:
    639
    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2009
    Location:
    Vancouver
    It was a stock option, called the Trans Top, but was only available in Europe and Japan. Check Wikipedia, it has some info on it. But to come back to the Viper, I never understood why they changed from a targa to a convertible in the first place. I like the convertible, but the lines of a targa are far more pleasing to the eye for me.
     
  5. Paul Hawker

    Paul Hawker Viper Owner

    Posts:
    4,660
    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2000
    Location:
    San Diego, Calif, USA
    Believe they changed from a targa to full vert because the toneau top was too large to be stored in the trunk.

    The current soft top actually has a hard forward section and hard glass rear window. Only the folding parts are soft cloth. This gives much of the quiet benefits, while still being able to be folded up without taking away valuable trunk space.

    Current top system is super simple with only one central lever to be unlatched, and the trunk be open to put it up or down in just a few seconds. Inexpensive, light, dependable. Very compatible Viper values.
     
  6. FrgMstr

    FrgMstr Guest

    Worth inputting here...GrailKeeper commenting on the roll hoops:

     
  7. DMan

    DMan Viper Owner

    Posts:
    1,855
    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2006
    Location:
    Maryland
    I don't doubt they'll "support the car when upside down", but that's a far cry from flipping at speed. I don't buy they'll hold up, the first time I pulled the decorative-hoops I laughed at them. Of course hearing the design calls for the windhsield to collapse is a bit more frightening. Most verts are designed with roll support in the A pillar, even cheap ones like a mustang (which I've not trusted either & put bars in), but not a real ROLPS like the BMWs or MBs, but sounds like the viper doesn't even have support in the A pillar by that quote. The more we post the more I'm leaning to a coupe, stop already, lol. Bottom line the hoops are marketed as decorative & not roll protection, I take the manufacturers word on that, just my opinion, obviously many others have other opinions as well. I just wish they'd announce it and we could start debating the real design already. ;-)
     
  8. Newport Viper

    Newport Viper Viper Owner

    Posts:
    4,657
    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2000
    Location:
    Newport Coast, CA
  9. DMan

    DMan Viper Owner

    Posts:
    1,855
    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2006
    Location:
    Maryland
    That's not much of a flip, I'm sure it's fine in a slow roll over, but wouldn't want to bet my life on it. Windshield is designed to collapse according to the other post above and this one is fine so must'nt have been much of an inverted impact, fortunately for the occupants I hope.

    I guess we'll keep debating the roll-over life-saving abililty of the decorative hoops of older gens until they release the gen5 vert. lol Occupies time I gues.
     
  10. MoparMap

    MoparMap VCA Member - West

    Posts:
    1,273
    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2013
    Location:
    Kansas
  11. DMan

    DMan Viper Owner

    Posts:
    1,855
    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2006
    Location:
    Maryland
    Yea if I was running in an event with that group I'd call. They have the viper wrong in both the approved and unapproved areas, and the RT not being approved considering its a targa and they approve T-tops, is weird, me thinks they be confuseth. And much is track dependent, like Summit Point you need the factory ROLPS like BMW or an aftermarket bar, like autoform for Viper but no broom-stick test, at VIR you do need a broom-stick test. Safest is always to call and ask for the track rules, I've seen guys show up told one thing & tech says something else, real bummer.
     
  12. FrgMstr

    FrgMstr Guest

    Roll hoop still on these...all stated as rollover accidents at wreckedexotics.com. From all the wrecks, it is hard to find pictures of roll over accidents....since these cars don't roll that easily. And it seems the hatchback guys can't drive as good as us convertible owners! JK. I don't think anyone here is suggesting that the roll hoops are a "roll bar" or would give the same amount of protection. If I tracked my car a whole lot, there is no doubt that it would have a roll bar in it. And I have pondered putting a roll bar in anyway, but honestly, I just do not like the way those look.

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
  13. Newport Viper

    Newport Viper Viper Owner

    Posts:
    4,657
    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2000
    Location:
    Newport Coast, CA
    Love it! LOL
     
  14. KenricGTS

    KenricGTS Viper Owner

    Posts:
    1,108
    Joined:
    May 7, 2001
    Location:
    Alb. NM
    Can't wait to see the Vert version.
     
  15. Finoke

    Finoke Enthusiast

    Posts:
    2
    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2010
    Hi , I'm a newbie. Was a roadster available in any of the gen v years?
     
  16. TalonTSi90

    TalonTSi90 Enthusiast

    Posts:
    612
    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2016
    Look up Viper Medusa.
     
  17. broomrider

    broomrider VCA Member - Gulf States

    Posts:
    1,395
    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2015
    Location:
    Louisiana
    Viper Exchange in Houston is the one behind the convertible Gen V. Only a handful were done. They have one left in Red. Last time I checked
     
  18. Finoke

    Finoke Enthusiast

    Posts:
    2
    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2010
    Thanks Guys, good info!
     

Share This Page