No Crank sensor learned

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  1. Quarterhorse89

    Quarterhorse89 Enthusiast

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    Took my 2014 viper GTS that i bought new 3 months ago to the dealer for a check engine light. The description for the diagnostic was "no crank sensor learned" and the car wouldn't start without a jump start either. Anyone got any info on this as i have had nothing but problems with my new viper. I had taken the car in 2 weeks ago for the same failure to start issue. Any ideas what could be causing this and is this issue severe enough to be worried about engine failure?
     
  2. ViperJeff

    ViperJeff VCA Legacy Member - UT/AZ Staff Member

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    I don't see why it would indicate an engine failure. It's a sensor and I would look there first.

    What did they find the last time you took it in?
     
  3. VPRPWRD

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    No service bulletins, no Star cases in Chrysler's system. Most probable causes are a bad crank sensor, wiring, PCM or a damaged tone ring on the crankshaft. I highly doubt the last item on the list.
     
  4. AZTVR

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    If those two symptoms are due to the same cause, then I'd suspect that the engine code is a spurious false code due to low voltage. If the battery was run down, then I wouldn't worry about a code like that if it didn't return.

    So then one would ask about why did the battery run down? There have been several threads asking this on several Gen V forums. One conjecture was that storing the key fob close to the car caused a drain on the car battery due to constant RF communication between the fob and the PCM. I never read any proof of that as being the cause though.

    If the car sat a long time before being sold to you, or the battery was allowed to fully discharge, or somehow went bad during its time at the dealership, that may be the cause of a bad battery.(or maybe it was just a weak battery from the manufacturer.) I would ask them to replace it under warranty. Low battery voltage can play strange games with the car's computer. This is a well known issue with older generation Vipers; so, maybe also with the newest generation. You really want to have a known good battery before troubleshooting weird electrical symptoms.

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  5. Quarterhorse89

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    Well the first time i took it in they advised a sensor on the transmission which i found to be nonsense....one thing i do know is that i keep my keys inside my car at all times, so when i get it back i will take them inside the house and see what happens. They advised at the dealership that they had installed a new battery last time. What bothets me is that i bought this car new 3 months ago and its been at the dealer for a month total time getting serviced due to problems. Never had any problems like this with any of the vettes i owned, my last being a 2013 vert 427.
     
  6. broomrider

    broomrider VCA Member - Gulf States

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    I know this sounds crazy but have them change the batteries in your key fob as well. Sometimes when those get low, they can effect your car in weird ways
    My srt8 chrysler was giving me fits with not wanting to start and a host of other oddities. The batteries were changed all around, fobs, car etc. And it fixed things.
    Also, if it is a false code, drive it around for a bit before taking it in. Sometimes they will clear on their on. Just my thoughts
     
  7. Quarterhorse89

    Quarterhorse89 Enthusiast

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    Thanx for the input fellas, i'll keep u all posted in about 2 weeks. Thats probably how long itll be there.
     

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