Re: Group Buy On SCT Handheld Flash Programmers

[Sean Roe]

Hi Everyone,
We have a thread going in the Group Buy section, but I've received multiple emails and a couple PM's that people can't reply in the thread.
Here's a link to it:
http://forums.viperclub.org/special-group-buys/613050-group-buy-sct-handheld-flash-programmers.html

I'd like to switch it over to this forum instead.
If anyone has any questions, or would like to start a running list, this is may be a better place to do it.

If you want to be on the "interest" list, please copy below, add your forum name a post. The next person would add theirs and so on until we see how many people are interested. The end number will determine the discount level. It just can't go below $500.


SCT Group Buy Interest:
1. Name : Year / Model

 

[ACR VYPR]

SCT Group Buy Interest:
Name : Year / Model
1. 2k6voi9 2006/Coupe

 

[FE 065]

SCT Group Buy Interest:
Name : Year / Model

1. 2k6voi9 2006/Coupe

2. FE 065 : '01 ACR

 

[Parisianviper]

SCT Group Buy Interest:
Parisianviper: 01 RT/10

 

[radta7]

what's a typical increase on a 97 with headers, exhaust, rt cats, smooth tubes and filters?

 

[Chuck Greggs S Arizona ACR]

SCT Group Buy Interest
Chuck Greggs, S Arizona ACR
'99 ACR

 

[CROM]

SCT Group Buy Interest:

1. 2k6voi9, '06 Coupe
2. FE 065, '01 ACR
3. Parisianviper, 01 RT/10
4. Chuck Greggs S Arizona ACR, ACR
5. Canyon707, 99ACR
6. CROM, 98 GTS

 

[viperflex]

Viperflex: 2004

 

[CROM]

For those who can't read:

SCT Group Buy Interest:

1. 2k6voi9, '06 Coupe
2. FE 065, '01 ACR
3. Parisianviper, 01 RT/10
4. Chuck Greggs S Arizona ACR, ACR
5. Canyon707, 99ACR
6. CROM, 98 GTS
7. viperflex, 2004

 

[Ricketts]

SCT Group Buy Interest:

1. 2k6voi9, '06 Coupe
2. FE 065, '01 ACR
3. Parisianviper, 01 RT/10
4. Chuck Greggs S Arizona ACR, ACR
5. Canyon707, 99ACR
6. CROM, 98 GTS
7. viperflex, 2004
8. 281cammer 01 GTS

 

[Sean Roe]

what's a typical increase on a 97 with headers, exhaust, rt cats, smooth tubes and filters?

I'm not sure what octane of gasoline you're using, but it can vary.
Basically, the HP gains come from two factors.
#1. Making the air / fuel ratio flat and ideal.
#2. Optimizing ignition timing for the gasoline you're using.
The farther the A/F and timing are from ideal, the larger the gains. If you've done a lot to increase air flow and are on 91 octane fuel, the gain will be smaller as you can't run as much ignition advance and the increase in air flow automatically improves the otherwise excessively rich AF ratio above 4,000 RPM.

Here's a typical stock Gen3 using 93 octane. Only mods before flashing were Mopar cat-back and high flow S&B air filters. This is about what one would typically expect on either Gen2 or 3. Sometimes more is gained at lower RPM when the engine is running too lean there. A larger torque gain can result from adding the fuel needed.

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[CROM]

SCT Group Buy Interest: (Pulled some from the other post)

1. 2k6voi9, '06 Coupe
2. FE 065, '01 ACR
3. Parisianviper, 01 RT/10
4. Chuck Greggs S Arizona ACR, ACR
5. Canyon707, 99ACR
6. CROM, 98 GTS
7. viperflex, 2004
8. 281cammer 01 GTS
9. Dimitrios, 05 SRT
10. ViperVon, RT/10 Year?
11. MTGTS, 01? GTS

 

[FE 065]

If you've done a lot to increase air flow and are on 91 octane fuel, the gain will be smaller as you can't run as much ignition advance and the increase in air flow automatically improves the otherwise excessively rich AF ratio above 4,000 RPM...

I've made a number of changes to increase airflow, and Sean's comments have me concerned about the actual gains I might get with the SCT. I'm going to take my name of the list for now while I think it over and maybe contact Sean again..I might jump back on before the deadline.


1. 2k6voi9, '06 Coupe
2. Parisianviper, 01 RT/10
3. Chuck Greggs S Arizona ACR, ACR
4. Canyon707, 99ACR
5. CROM, 98 GTS
6. viperflex, 2004
7. 281cammer 01 GTS
8. Dimitrios, 05 SRT
9. ViperVon, RT/10 Year?
10. MTGTS, 01? GTS

 

[Sean Roe]

Keep in mind that we don't put the same tune in all the boxes. We set the program according to the modifications. If headers have been added for example, we add more fuel, primarily above 4,000 RPM where the headers have the larger impact.
The statement about the AF changing with modifications is 100% relative to the gains to be had. The closer a tune is to ideal, the less there is to be gained with changing it.
If you have time, it's always best to dyno and see where your engine stands in regard to AF and power numbers.

 

[Dimitrios]

20-30 rwhp gain for $509 is totally do-able. ill take one!

have K&N instake w filters and corsa catback and RTech hi-flo cats. should i dyno and ge AF ratios first?

 

[FlyBy]

Sounds good to me -

SCT Group Buy Interest:

1. 2k6voi9, '06 Coupe
2. Parisianviper, 01 RT/10
3. Chuck Greggs S Arizona ACR, ACR
4. Canyon707, 99ACR
5. CROM, 98 GTS
6. viperflex, 2004
7. 281cammer 01 GTS
8. Dimitrios, 05 SRT
9. ViperVon, RT/10 Year?
10. MTGTS, 01? GTS
11. FlyBy: 2000 GTS

 

[cyaford]

SCT Group Buy Interest:

1. 2k6voi9, '06 Coupe
2. Parisianviper, 01 RT/10
3. Chuck Greggs S Arizona ACR, ACR
4. Canyon707, 99ACR
5. CROM, 98 GTS
6. viperflex, 2004
7. 281cammer 01 GTS
8. Dimitrios, 05 SRT
9. ViperVon, RT/10 Year?
10. MTGTS, 01? GTS
11. FlyBy: 2000 GTS
12. cyaford, '97 GTS

 

[Sean Roe]

20-30 rwhp gain for $509 is totally do-able. ill take one!

have K&N instake w filters and corsa catback and RTech hi-flo cats. should i dyno and ge AF ratios first?

Hi Dimitrios,

No need to dyno before. We have that combination covered and know what to do.
The box will have three tunes in it, plus saves the stock one.
If you want to verify or check the gains after getting the flash programmer, go to the dyno and run the stock program and the one you select for your fuel octane.
If a change is needed for any reason, simply email or fax the dyno file or graph along with your box serial number. We'll change the tune if needed, free of charge. So far, of 60+ units, we've only had to tweak two programs, so I think we have it pretty well sorted out

Regards,
Sean

 

[Dimitrios]

so how soon can i get one?

 

[YELLOH]

SCT Group Buy Interest:

1. 2k6voi9, '06 Coupe
2. Parisianviper, 01 RT/10
3. Chuck Greggs S Arizona ACR, ACR
4. Canyon707, 99ACR
5. CROM, 98 GTS
6. viperflex, 2004
7. 281cammer 01 GTS
8. Dimitrios, 05 SRT
9. ViperVon, RT/10 Year?
10. MTGTS, 01? GTS
11. FlyBy: 2000 GTS
12. cyaford, '97 GTS[
13. YELLOH SRT-10

 

[Sean Roe]

$500 - 509 Group Buy SCT Handheld Flash Programmers until the 25th, GTS, RT/10, SRT

so how soon can i get one?

We need to hit a volume point to get the discount from SCT that we're going to pass on.
The plan at this point is to make the GB available until next Friday, the 25th. If we hit 25+ before then, we'll go ahead and order the quantity from SCT and can start processing them for everyone immediately.
We'll print a copy of the list from here and people can either call or email to get the GB discount price.
We don't do Group Buys much and can tweak the process if needed.

 

[viper210]

im in
viper210, 96gts

 

[YELLOH]

SCT Group Buy Interest:

1. 2k6voi9, '06 Coupe
2. Parisianviper, 01 RT/10
3. Chuck Greggs S Arizona ACR, ACR
4. Canyon707, 99ACR
5. CROM, 98 GTS
6. viperflex, 2004
7. 281cammer 01 GTS
8. Dimitrios, 05 SRT
9. ViperVon, RT/10 Year?
10. MTGTS, 01? GTS
11. FlyBy: 2000 GTS
12. cyaford, '97 GTS[
13. YELLOH SRT-10
14.Viper 210, GTS

 

[Sean Roe]

Just so you guys know, there are a couple people that have sent me PM's or emails directly that do NOT want their names posted on the forum list, though they're interested in the GB.
If someone has interest and doesn't want their name on the board for it, send me an email at [email protected] and I'll keep your interest private. Considering we have a week to go and not a lot of people know about it yet, the chances of getting everyone $90 to $100 off looks pretty good!

Regards,
Sean

 

[vipervegas]

I'm interested, put me on the list.
2001 GTS, K&N in stock air box, smooth tubes, Random Tech cats and catback CORSA. Can't wait

 

[Dimitrios]

i like to get my hands on one before our NY/CT dyno day just to see the difference..is this possible?

 

[ViperTony]

i like to get my hands on one before our NY/CT dyno day just to see the difference..is this possible?

That's pretty neat in that you can do a before/after on the same day. I wonder if you sent Sean a dyno sheet if he could get you a custom tune?

- Tony

 

[YELLOH]

SCT Group Buy Interest:

1. 2k6voi9, '06 Coupe
2. Parisianviper, 01 RT/10
3. Chuck Greggs S Arizona ACR, ACR
4. Canyon707, 99ACR
5. CROM, 98 GTS
6. viperflex, 2004
7. 281cammer 01 GTS
8. Dimitrios, 05 SRT
9. ViperVon, RT/10 Year?
10. MTGTS, 01? GTS
11. FlyBy: 2000 GTS
12. cyaford, '97 GTS[
13. YELLOH SRT-10
14.Viper 210, 96 GTS
15. ViperVegas 2001 GTS

 

[ELW98]

Add me to the list!

thanks,

 

[Nine Ball]

Sean, can we get one with a Paxton tune? I have a Paxton and 3" catback (stock manifolds, high flow cats)