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I don't have a problem with the product, it's the management that is driving the company into the toilet if they keep this up!




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I leared a new word. "abrogate" meaning to annul or revoke. I have never heard a more eloquent way to describe how the parent companies screwed and betrayed the dealerships that took all the risk to sell cars for the parent company all along.

I respectfully have a question for you Chuck. In your many years of business, how come you never expanded to sell all Chrysler products?
 
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Thats just wrong.....
Chuck your better off without them,Dont let them drag the TATOR'S name down with them....

Where do i buy that ZR1......
 

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Shameful is the word that comes to mind. Seems ironic that "corporate greed" is a large part of what caused the mess .... and here we have a new "species" of government sponsored "corporate greed" being craftily utilized to assist in the "repair"? :mad:

Quite a pill to swallow. :rolleyes:
 

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That is just disgraceful! Hey, New Chrysler, are you listening?
YOU ****!:nono:
 

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I don't think they can understand..................... We need to start speaking Italian............................... :mad:
 
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I leared a new word. "abrogate" meaning to annul or revoke. I have never heard a more eloquent way to describe how the parent companies screwed and betrayed the dealerships that took all the risk to sell cars for the parent company all along.

I respectfully have a question for you Chuck. In your many years of business, how come you never expanded to sell all Chrysler products?

So much of what was done and said were outright lies. I know of dealers that still don't sell all three products and they're still dealers. Like less than a month ago when I was getting emissions done on the Viper and they said they had one in the showroom. I looked at the VOI 10 edition and asked if I could see the inside. They had to go next door to the Ford dealership they own to get the keys. Don't you know the battery was dead because it sat in the showroom for three months. The salesman and others were clueless, he said they'll just change the battery. He opened the hatch and wanted someone to crawl through and open the drivers door. They didn't know you could open the hood without getting in the car or the other way to open the car door without using the remote, much less where the battery is even if they wanted to change it.
You have dealers that know nothing about the product and are doing a disservice to Chrysler that are allowed to stay in business and those like Chuck who know everything possible about it have their dealerships taken away. I will never go back to the last dealer I factory ordered my last Dodge from for the way they treated me down the road. They even had the gall to accuse me of using the vehicle for what they designed it for and said that's why stuff broke that was under warranty! They had no idea that I drive a company vehicle and this one was just for pleasure. They don't sell all three either and they are still in business.
It's really a sad state corporate America is in. There is no truth, no honesty, mostly just those out for themselves trying to make as much as they can in a short period no matter who it hurts or the consequences down the road. No one cares about what made this country great or what will keep it great, just raiding what they can while they can get away with it. What are we leaving for the future generations? Read Lee Iacocca's book, Where Have All The Leaders Gone? I wish he would come back to Chrysler and clean house and make what it once was. The government could learn much from him also. IMHO
 

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Corporations just blow. Chrysler should be ashamed of themselves and people buying these products should know better than to support those types of companies. Sorry but Ford is the only American company left with any self-respect.

Government owned or not, GM and Chrysler can rot on the vine for all they are supposidely worth. I am sure GM will not be far behind with similar types of disgraceful actions.

Unbelievable!!!!!!
 

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i have just became a ford buyer. who would want to buy a car from a company owned by the government and the unions.
 

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As much as I love my Viper, I don't see myself ever buying another new Chrysler/Dodge product......ever.
 

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It's really a sad state corporate America is in. There is no truth, no honesty, mostly just those out for themselves trying to make as much as they can in a short period no matter who it hurts or the consequences down the road.
This is what corporate America has always been. It's why Unions had to get started, to protect workers from greedy management that treats them like dirt. Sure, unions go overboard and are fanatical too. But if people got treated fairly there would be no need for them.

So what happens? NAFTA. That is purely a break union concept. And it basiclly worked. Unfortunately it has also devistated the US industrial base and is a major factor in sending our economy into the toilet. In the last 25 years the small town that I live in has seen all it's locally owned factories move to mexico. The ones left are all owned by Europeans. Tell me why Europeans can make a business here work and Americans can't? They couldn't care less about our local area.

I know there are many upper management people here and I am sorry if my rant has offended you. But that's the way I see it.

Soapbox over.

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I know there are many upper management people here and I am sorry if my rant has offended you.

:stooges:

I'll take the box now please.

Why was there neither rhyme nor reason as to which dealerships of the
Chrysler Corporation were to be closed? Roll the clock back to the weeks
just before Chrysler declared bankruptcy. Chrysler, like GM, was in dire
financial straights and federal government graciously offered to [with your money] "buy
the company" and keep them out of bankruptcy and "save jobs." Chrysler
was, in the words of the administration, "Too big to fail,"
same story with GM.

The feds organized their "Automotive Task Force" to fix Chrysler and GM.
The administration, in an act that is 100% unconstitutional, appointed a guy named
Steve Rattner to be the White House's official Car Czar- literally,
that's what his title is. Rattner is the liaison between the administration,
Chrysler, and GM.

Initially, the national media reported that Chrysler had made this list
of dealerships. That is not true. The Washington Examiner, Newsmax, Fox
New and a host of other news agencies discovered that the list of
dealerships was put together by the "Automotive Task Force" headed by no
one other then Mr. Steve Rattner. Now the plot thickens. Remember
earlier we said earlier that there was neither rhyme nor reason why
certain dealerships were closed? Actually there's a very interesting
pattern as to who was closed down. Again, on May 27, 2009, The
Washington Examiner and Newsmax exposed the connection. Amazingly, of
the 789 dealerships closed by the federal government 788 had donated
money, exclusively, to Republican political causes, while contributing
nothing to Democratic political causes. The only "Democratic" dealership
on the list was found to have donated $7,700 to Hillary's campaign, and
a bit over $2,000 to John Edwards. This same dealership, reportedly,
also gave $200.00 to Obama's campaign. Does that seem a little odd to
you?

Steve Rattner, the guy who put the list together. Well he happens to be
married to Maureen White. Maureen happens to be the former
national finance chairman of the Democratic National Committee. As such,
she would have access to campaign donation records from everyone in the
nation, Republican or Democrat. But of course, this is just a wacky
coincidence, I'm certain.
Then comes another really wacky coincidence. On that list of dealerships
being closed down, a weird thing happened in Arkansas, North Louisiana,
and Southern Missouri. It seems that Bill Clinton's former White House
Chief of Staff, Mack McClarty, owns a chain of dealership in that
region, partnered with a fellow by the name of Robert Johnson. Johnson
happens to be founder of Black Entertainment Television and was a huge
Obama supporter and financier. These guys own a half dozen Chrysler
stores under the company title of RLJ-McClarty-Landers. Interestingly,
none of their dealerships were ordered closed - not one- while all of
their competing Chrysler/Dodge and Jeep dealership were! Eight
dealerships located near the dealerships owned by McClarty and Johnson
were ordered shut down. Thus, by pure luck, these two major Obama
supporters now have virtual monopoly on Chrysler sales in their zone.
Isn't that amazing? Go look in The Washington Examiner, the story's
there, and it's in a dozen or so other web-based news organization, this
isn't being made up.

Now if you thought Chrysler was owned by Fiat, you are truly mistaken.
Under the federal court ruling, 65% of Chrysler is now owned by the
federal government and the United Auto Worker's union- Fiat owns 20%.
The other 15% is still privately owned and presumably will be traded on
the stock market. The administration smiles and says he doesn't want to run the auto
industry.

As horrifying as this is to comprehend, and being as how this used to be
the United States of America, it would appear that the president has the
power to destroy private businesses and eliminate upwards of 100,000 +
jobs, just because they don't agree with his political agenda. This is a dictatorship,
and it's happening right here, right now, in your
back yard. There are voices in Washington demanding an explanation, but
the "Automotive Task Force" has released no information to the public or
any of the senators demanding answers for what has been done. Keep your
ear to the ground for more on this story. If you've ever wanted to make
a difference about anything in your life, get on the phone to your
national senator or representative in the House and demand an
investigation on this.

Benjamin Franklin had it right when he said, "All that's necessary for
evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."

An amazing thing happened as this story was going to press. The administration's Car
Czar, Steve Rattner, resigned on July 13 and was promptly replaced by
former steel workers union boss Ron Bloom. According to CBS News,
Rattner left "to return to private life and spend time with his family."
Treasure Secretary Tim Geithner said, "I hope that he takes another
opportunity to bring his unique skills to government service in the
future." By the way, Rattner is under investigation for a multi-million
dollar pay-to-play investment bank scandal in New York. Uh-oh! But,
I'm certain that had nothing to do with his resignation. And,
according to several news sources out there, there are rumors he's being
investigated for what could be pay-to-play scandal involving the closing
of Chrysler and GM dealerships. Really? Again, that couldn't have
anything to with his resignation? Like CBS said, this guy just wants to
spend more quality time with his family. The administration has
thirty-two personally appointed "czars" that answer to no one but him,
all of whom are acting without any Constitutional authority. But hey,
we're sure they all have "unique skills," as Tim Geithner likes to say.


Okay the box is free.
 

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really feeling for you chuck

the pain of this injustice you suffer is obvious

it is all dirty business mixed with dirty politics

hang tough and don't let this eat you up






peace bro
 

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Chuck,
Thanks a million for talking with me on the phone yesterday. It is sad when I can't even get any information from my local Dodge dealership at all, and you (even with all the crap Chrysler has put you through) will still take the time to tell me everything I wanted to know.

If there is anything anyone of us on this board can do, let us know. I am spreading your story around. The more people aware of this the better as far as I am concerned.

Thanks again Chuck,
Ryan
 
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Chuck,
Thanks a million for talking with me on the phone yesterday. It is sad when I can't even get any information from my local Dodge dealership at all, and you (even with all the crap Chrysler has put you through) will still take the time to tell me everything I wanted to know.

If there is anything anyone of us on this board can do, let us know. I am spreading your story around. The more people aware of this the better as far as I am concerned.

Thanks again Chuck,
Ryan


Your very welcome Ryan, I'm glad I could help, anytime! AND Thank You All of my friends for your support! :cool:

eucharistos, isn't it amazing that 95 years of helping build America can be just thrown out like trash, it has certainly been a shock to my system!! :shark:

http://www.legalshowtime.com/video/62/The-Fight-to-Save-Tator

I'm still asking why because Chrysler has still not answered as to why! :confused: :dunno: Hey, we could ask these guys, maybe they can give us all some answers? "Now remember be polite when asking and just ask for straight answers as to why their ONLY last original Dodge Dealer is worth nothing??" :rlz:

Top three:
Chairman - C. Robert Kidder
CEO & Director - Sergio Marchionne
SVP & CFO - Ronald E. Kolka
1000 Chrysler Drive
Auburn Hills, MI 48326-2766

If you get an answer and I'm sure it will be a computer generated one coming from those HIGHLY educated minds running the company? Please post their response for all of us to see. :2tu:

Thanks!
 
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