Clearing the air of fear of "creamfuff "non forced inducted vipers

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Clearing the air of fear of \"creamfuff \"non forced inducted vipers

I posted this as a reply to a thread on gts r/t10 discusion and though that it should have its own post to hopefully clear the air
There are a lot of misconceptions about these pistons.00 and up came out with a Hypereutectic alloy cast(aluminum)piston.These are a very good and strong piston that are used on many late model high performance cars.The Hypereutectic alloys are much tougher than the alloys used in ordinary cast aluminum pistons. Hypereutectic pistons (which are also cast, not forged) have a very high silicon content ranging anywhere from 16-22%. The excess silicon forms little hard spots in the alloy, giving the piston improved wear and scuff resistance at high temperatures. Another change is that many pistons are getting shorter as the manufacturers reduce deck heights for shorter blocks and reduced hood clearance.To achieve this and produce torque longer rods are used – which requires moving the wrist pin higher on the piston.This leaves less room for the rings, which means smaller rings must be used and crowded together more closely creating the short ring land which in the world of superchargers and turbos is not a good thing.This is why you will find the 00 and up rods longer than the previous years,but what is real strange is that they share the identical casting #s so be carefull.Reducing the thickness of the piston lands also increases the risk of breakage, so that's another reason for using hypereutectic pistons. The harder hypereutectic pistons have less ring groove wear .most modern high performance engines including the viper are also running much closer piston-to-cylinder wall clearances to reduce blowby emissions. Some clearances are .001" or less, which leaves little room for error – or overheating. A tighter fit means there is less room for heat expansion, which is another reason why the vipers and newer high output engines are using this style piston.Hypereutectic pistons expand less than ordinary cast aluminum alloys, and CNC machining of the piston profile allows piston-to-bore clearances to be reduced. This also eliminates the need for steel struts inside the piston to control heat expansion, which reduces piston weight.So when we are talking naturally aspirated high performance motors,this is the way to go.Now when we are talking forced induction where cylinder pressures increase is where the short ring land is not our friend.This is the ONLY reason anyone should consider changing out there pistons to the forged.Also consider when going to the forged pistons with a much larger ring land that ring area must be moved lower which brings it into the wrist pin area creating the need for oil support rails.Sorry for the long winded explanation but i was hoping it would clear the air of fear for these 00 up owners.We have many owners contacting us wanting to change out pistons only because of the stories they haer about these "weak pistons"and most of these people do not plan on forced induction.I hope this helps
 

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Re: Clearing the air of fear of \"creamfuff \"non forced inducted vipers

That was a really good read. Thanks for the explination, and for taking the time to explain this to us. :)
 

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Great info :) It'd be nice if the new rod length ratio on the cream puffs made for a small gain in hp or torque as well...
 

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Re: Clearing the air of fear of \"creamfuff \"non forced inducted vipers

That is one B - I - G paragraph!! :laugh:
 
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Re: Clearing the air of fear of \"creamfuff \"non forced inducted vipers

That is one B - I - G paragraph!! :laugh:

Good thing i dont write a book.Organised grammer, punctuation not one of my stronger points :)
 
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