questions for the guys running blown cars

The real estate market is doing me so well, that I am considering adding a supercharger in celebration.

I have found alot of info on blown vs. tt, etc.

what i am wondering though, is at what point do you do more than add the supercharger or TT?

In other words, when do you upgrade the brakes, and to what? at what point are the upgraded half-shafts needed? when is the fuel system upgraded? what else am i not thinking of that pertains to this question?

thanks in advance

big-n-italian

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Glad to give some prices since your close!
Brakes:I'd get stainless lines from Snake oyl and better fluid.EBC green pads are decent with less dust,for now.The Roe blower is still the best price/resale with guarantees.
Modding,you got the right idea.

The real estate market is doing me so well, that I am considering adding a supercharger in celebration.

I have found alot of info on blown vs. tt, etc.

what i am wondering though, is at what point do you do more than add the supercharger or TT?

In other words, when do you upgrade the brakes, and to what? at what point are the upgraded half-shafts needed? when is the fuel system upgraded? what else am i not thinking of that pertains to this question?

thanks in advance

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IF you are looking for a car with Less problems The Twin Turbo is the way to go. Trust me I have both. With the suipercharger you will be constantly checking and changin belts and it is really loud. TT really is the best all around performer

<< IF you are looking for a car with Less problems The Twin Turbo is the way to go. Trust me I have both. With the suipercharger you will be constantly checking and changin belts and it is really loud. TT really is the best all around performer >>

Thank you for that - but I am still asking the same question.

It looks like your 98 GTS is a really nice car. At what point did you feel you had to upgrade the half shafts? Are your brakes still stock, and if not when did you change?

I guess what I am really wondering is - up to the XX horsepower level, what stock components can still be used safely? I am wondering about upgrading some parts before adding more power to be on the safe side instead of adding the power, and breaking things.

The real estate market is doing me so well, that I am considering adding a supercharger in celebration.

I have found alot of info on blown vs. tt, etc.

what i am wondering though, is at what point do you do more than add the supercharger or TT?

In other words, when do you upgrade the brakes, and to what? at what point are the upgraded half-shafts needed? when is the fuel system upgraded? what else am i not thinking of that pertains to this question?

thanks in advance

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IF you are looking for a car with Less problems The Twin Turbo is the way to go. Trust me I have both. With the suipercharger you will be constantly checking and changin belts and it is really loud. TT really is the best all around performer

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You need to clarify what kind of s/c has belt problems. The Roe s/c that was suggested has ZERO belt problems. Another issue is "how much do you want to spend"

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It looks like your 98 GTS is a really nice car. At what point did you feel you had to upgrade the half shafts? Are your brakes still stock, and if not when did you change?

I guess what I am really wondering is - up to the XX horsepower level, what stock components can still be used safely? I am wondering about upgrading some parts before adding more power to be on the safe side instead of adding the power, and breaking things.

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You should change shafts on any power upgrade (or sooner) and I would get the best Unitrax shafts the first time around. The engine will handle most any power you throw at it............the vendor/tuner will advise you on the fuel needs. Most come with the appropriate fuel upgrades to match the hp.

There is also a few DIY turbo kits coming out. Paolo is in Chicago and Heffner is in Maryland. You might visit one of those guys and take a look at the product.

Stock brakes are fine for anything you can drive on the street.

Stock fuel system is fine to 600 RWHP.

Half shafts should be upgraded with any type of blower especially if you are going to do hard launches with sticky tires.

The real estate market is doing me so well, that I am considering adding a supercharger in celebration.

I have found alot of info on blown vs. tt, etc.

what i am wondering though, is at what point do you do more than add the supercharger or TT?

In other words, when do you upgrade the brakes, and to what? at what point are the upgraded half-shafts needed? when is the fuel system upgraded? what else am i not thinking of that pertains to this question?

thanks in advance

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Big-n-italian, exactly what kind of driving will you be doing? Street only? Roadcourse? Street tires, slicks and skinnies?

If you do not care about brake dust, I can sell you some ferodo(don't remember the exact model # off hand) front pads and some performance friction rear pads.

The aggressive pads with some braided stainless brake lines will achieve a noticeable improvement in your car's braking performance.

In addition to the Unitrax titanium supershafts, I would also recommend picking up a pair of Unitrax 1/2 shaft loops.

I got home at 2:30 am from reinstalling a differential and heavy duty Unitrax 1/2 shafts(with all newly replaced U-joints and u-joint strap kits) The last installer used the old strap kits and no loc-tite.

Old strap kits and no Loc-tite lead to the U-joint caps coming off and destroying the axle stubs coming out of the diff. It all had to be replaced redone.

We used new strap kits, Loc-tite and also installed the 1/2 shaft loops for good measure.

I can get you all the parts you need and do the installation if you would like.

My cell # is 630-878-3907.

As far as the whole supercharger vs turbocharger debate is concerned, I can hook you up with a cutting edge, intercooled, front mounted twin turbo system where we can start you out at around 600 RWHP and you could eventually make in excess of 1400-1500 HP with the appropriate engine, fuel system and engine management upgrades. There is no other system out there that can do this.

After recently installing one, I have to say the Roe blowers look like a million bucks. You open the hood and WHAM! It looks awesome!

Our DIY twin turbo will have a similar visual impact to the Roe blower when you open the hood.

So there is upgradeability, functionality and bling !!!!!

If you have any other questions, please feel free to give me a call anytime.

Good luck in your pursuit of safe power AND stopping power! Congrats on your real estate success!

Brakes, shafts, loops are pretty cheap to upgrade. At least by Viper Tax standards.

I did mine shortly after Heffner installed my SCi.

I forgot to add that, I don't think HD Halfshafts are needed if you are still planning on running Pilot Sports. Once you decide to run some sticky tires, you would NEED the HD shafts.

I think halfshafts safety Loops are a safe bet for all Vipers. At $200, why risk it.

JMO

I forgot to add that, I don't think HD Halfshafts are needed if you are still planning on running Pilot Sports. Once you decide to run some sticky tires, you would NEED the HD shafts.

I think halfshafts safety Loops are a safe bet for all Vipers. At $200, why risk it.

JMO

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Casey, I broke plenty of U-joints on pilots and stock power.

==>Besides, didn't you see this guy's screen name: big-n-italian......... need I say more?

wow guys! THANK YOU! All kinds of good information to read and absorb.

<< Big-n-italian, exactly what kind of driving will you be doing? Street only? >>

As of right now, yes, street only most probably. I already have a drag car being built. Probably dont need two.

At the NASCAR event, someone had a TT setup, and that is what got me thinking. I also saw a blown Roe car the other day here locally, and it too sounded very SWEET.

I am one of these guys that would rather pay for the "extras" now, than avoidable repairs and damage later. $200 safety loops sound like great inexpensive insurance.

Paolo, what is it going to cost to install your setup when the system is ready?

<< Roe S/C $7495, polished, gen2 with free install !! >>

This looks like a great deal too.

Can somebody post the link to the $200 safety loops? Are they from Summit racing? Jegs?

wow guys! THANK YOU! All kinds of good information to read and absorb.

<< Big-n-italian, exactly what kind of driving will you be doing? Street only? >>

As of right now, yes, street only most probably. I already have a drag car being built. Probably dont need two.

At the NASCAR event, someone had a TT setup, and that is what got me thinking. I also saw a blown Roe car the other day here locally, and it too sounded very SWEET.

I am one of these guys that would rather pay for the "extras" now, than avoidable repairs and damage later. $200 safety loops sound like great inexpensive insurance.

Paolo, what is it going to cost to install your setup when the system is ready?

<< Roe S/C $7495, polished, gen2 with free install !! >>

This looks like a great deal too.

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John, the install should be no more complicated than the Roe blower. Very easy. The basic bolt-on system with the voltage booster and no intercooler should be no more than an 8 hour job for a qualified technician.

For a local guy like yourself, I am sure we can work you out a great deal on the install labor.

It will not be as cheap as a Roe blower.

==>BUT the potential to upgrade to higher intercooled power levels is there.

I am sure you are familiar with the advantages of turbocharging in respect to supercharging.

Here is s link to the supplier's special section on .org that gives detailed information you need to know to make sure you make the best decision for what you want to do with your car:

http://vca2.viperclub.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB24&Number=551727&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1

Like I said, please feel free to give me a call @630-878-3907. I would love to help out a local Viper brother take care of business!

P.S., I could get you those 1/2 shaft loops in less than a week if you want them!

At the NASCAR event, someone had a TT setup, and that is what got me thinking. I also saw a blown Roe car the other day here locally, and it too sounded very SWEET.

I am one of these guys that would rather pay for the "extras" now, than avoidable repairs and damage later. $200 safety loops sound like great inexpensive insurance.

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Did the TT GTS at the Chicagolandspeedway look like this?!

Sorry we didn't get to meet and talk for a while. Hopefully next time!

<< Did the TT GTS at the Chicagolandspeedway look like this?!

Yes it did!!

<< Sorry we didn't get to meet and talk for a while. Hopefully next time! >>

Actually we did meet for awhile. Here is a picture of me. You may or may not remember. That was one sweet setup you have. Thanks for popping the hood and giving me your input/advice on the TT.

Not blown.Just headers and exhaust.Unless you do all of your driving in a straight line,you need to be able to stop and turn first.Your brakes are inadequate now.Cheap way is to upgrade rear calipers to 40 mm.Best way is stoptech big brake.2nd handling.Lower is better.Consider eibach springs,tuning shocks,agressive street alignment,stickier tires...3rd better cooling(various options).Then add power. Good luck GTS Bruce

Can somebody post the link to the $200 safety loops? Are they from Summit racing? Jegs?

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Mike,

The only safety loops that I'm familiar with (for the Viper) are the Unitrax loops. Well worth the money in my opinion.

OK, so we met! You didn't introduce yourself as the Big-n-italian though!

It was nice meeting you! Maybe next time I can take you for a ride.

Nice picture also! I took a couple in the PITS as well! Pretty cool! Although, the Miller Lite girls were NO WHERE to be found! And I always thought they would hang out in the pits, where all the Big Time Drivers hang!

<< Did the TT GTS at the Chicagolandspeedway look like this?!

Yes it did!!

<< Sorry we didn't get to meet and talk for a while. Hopefully next time! >>

Actually we did meet for awhile. Here is a picture of me. You may or may not remember. That was one sweet setup you have. Thanks for popping the hood and giving me your input/advice on the TT.

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