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Will this work on a Gen II?
I think overtaking maybe a stretch.Another update on the reflash... I had the good fortune to attend the CSD Pocono event last weekend and tracked the car on Pocono raceway Monday and Tuesday. In total, I turned about 35 laps on the 2.5 mile course. This was my first opportunity to run the car flat out since the reflash. I'm happy to report that the car ran flawlessly. I never even opened the hood. Oil and water temps were perfect and the car ran EXTREMELY strong, reaching speeds of 158 mph in the straight. The cockpit never got uncomfortably hot, even with the 90 degree heat. Not so much as a hickup the entire time. It's also worth mentioning that I drove the car there (2 hours and 45 minutes, one way) and home again with no issues what so ever. After finishing on the track on Tuesday, I simply drove off the track and headed home. I made no adjustments to the car the entire time except for upping the tire pressure a bit.
I let one of the instructors take a few laps with me in the passenger seat. I am a novice at road racing, but this guy has 35 years of experience. It was quite a lesson and I now have a whole new respect for the car. What an essentially stock Viper can do on a road course in the hands of an expert driver is truely awe inspiring. Mine was the first Viper he had ever tracked and he was deeply impressed. He loved the torque and thought the car was very well balanced. His only criticism was the weight and a tendency to understeer. However, he commented that the understeer was easily offset by adding a little throttle on the turn-ins. He said it was on of the fastest, essentially unmodified street cars he had ever driven on the track and this guys has driven just about everything. I received numerous compliments from various other drivers on the car's power, handling and good looks. I only got passed a couple of times the entire two days and that was by true race cars. There were a couple of C6 Z06s that were very impressive, but I was able to overtake them in the straight aways (just barely). We seemed evenly matched through the turns. I doubt very much if that would have been the case had I not had the reflash. The Z06s are very fast on the track and should never be taken lightly.
Once again and more than ever, I highly recommend this mod for stock Vipers!
I think overtaking maybe a stretch.Another update on the reflash... I had the good fortune to attend the CSD Pocono event last weekend and tracked the car on Pocono raceway Monday and Tuesday. In total, I turned about 35 laps on the 2.5 mile course. This was my first opportunity to run the car flat out since the reflash. I'm happy to report that the car ran flawlessly. I never even opened the hood. Oil and water temps were perfect and the car ran EXTREMELY strong, reaching speeds of 158 mph in the straight. The cockpit never got uncomfortably hot, even with the 90 degree heat. Not so much as a hickup the entire time. It's also worth mentioning that I drove the car there (2 hours and 45 minutes, one way) and home again with no issues what so ever. After finishing on the track on Tuesday, I simply drove off the track and headed home. I made no adjustments to the car the entire time except for upping the tire pressure a bit.
I let one of the instructors take a few laps with me in the passenger seat. I am a novice at road racing, but this guy has 35 years of experience. It was quite a lesson and I now have a whole new respect for the car. What an essentially stock Viper can do on a road course in the hands of an expert driver is truely awe inspiring. Mine was the first Viper he had ever tracked and he was deeply impressed. He loved the torque and thought the car was very well balanced. His only criticism was the weight and a tendency to understeer. However, he commented that the understeer was easily offset by adding a little throttle on the turn-ins. He said it was on of the fastest, essentially unmodified street cars he had ever driven on the track and this guys has driven just about everything. I received numerous compliments from various other drivers on the car's power, handling and good looks. I only got passed a couple of times the entire two days and that was by true race cars. There were a couple of C6 Z06s that were very impressive, but I was able to overtake them in the straight aways (just barely). We seemed evenly matched through the turns. I doubt very much if that would have been the case had I not had the reflash. The Z06s are very fast on the track and should never be taken lightly.
Once again and more than ever, I highly recommend this mod for stock Vipers!
I own both cars.The Z is faster without question in a stock form.Your tune may bring them closer.The Z with the gearing will arive to speed quicker.There is also drivers involved.Just like running down the Ferarri's( the race version)Is it the car or is it the driver.I hit 164 on the back stretch.Does it prove anything?No!I am glad to hear of your happiness of the tune.I am going to check it out for mine.
I could only do that after running for a while.You have to get a lot of speed in turn one to get that high.Plus you have to let off late.I am impressed if you could look down to see your speed and being the first time.This was my 3rd event and I have heads up display and still have trouble trying to look at anything but the road ahead.I was going to bring the Viper next time but now maybe I'll bring the Z again.The cars may have a score to settle/LOL.Congrats on your safeI own both cars.The Z is faster without question in a stock form.Your tune may bring them closer.The Z with the gearing will arive to speed quicker.There is also drivers involved.Just like running down the Ferarri's( the race version)Is it the car or is it the driver.I hit 164 on the back stretch.Does it prove anything?No!I am glad to hear of your happiness of the tune.I am going to check it out for mine.
I remember speaking to you in the garage. I love your car. Silver is my favorite color in the Z06 and I am considering buying one when they come down a bit in price. 164 mph in the straight is awesome... congrats! Were you running stock? 158 was the best I could do with my limited driving skills. This was my first time ever road racing. When my instructor took the wheel, he was able to get quite a bit more out of it and was able to generate a lot more speed coming out of the far corner leading into the back straight than I had the balls to attempt. I didn't look at the speedometer when he was driving (too busy holding on for dear life), but I suspect he got it going faster than I did.
Let me know what you think after you do the reflash. I will wager a gentlemen's bet that you find the two at least equal after that.
I could only do that after running for a while.You have to get a lot of speed in turn one to get that high.Plus you have to let off late.I am impressed if you could look down to see your speed and being the first time.This was my 3rd event and I have heads up display and still have trouble trying to look at anything but the road ahead.I was going to bring the Viper next time but now maybe I'll bring the Z again.The cars may have a score to settle/LOL.Congrats on your safeI own both cars.The Z is faster without question in a stock form.Your tune may bring them closer.The Z with the gearing will arive to speed quicker.There is also drivers involved.Just like running down the Ferarri's( the race version)Is it the car or is it the driver.I hit 164 on the back stretch.Does it prove anything?No!I am glad to hear of your happiness of the tune.I am going to check it out for mine.
I remember speaking to you in the garage. I love your car. Silver is my favorite color in the Z06 and I am considering buying one when they come down a bit in price. 164 mph in the straight is awesome... congrats! Were you running stock? 158 was the best I could do with my limited driving skills. This was my first time ever road racing. When my instructor took the wheel, he was able to get quite a bit more out of it and was able to generate a lot more speed coming out of the far corner leading into the back straight than I had the balls to attempt. I didn't look at the speedometer when he was driving (too busy holding on for dear life), but I suspect he got it going faster than I did.
Let me know what you think after you do the reflash. I will wager a gentlemen's bet that you find the two at least equal after that.
and successful event.I hear the Vca will be at Pocono soon.Do they allow Convertables Stock?
Hey Robbie,To get back to the subject of the ECM reflash from DC. I just took a 1800 mile trip up to the New Hampshire mountains from sea level in CT. It was 90 degrees up there. I had already installed the 180 degree thermostat. I had also installed a new test exhaust on our house car so the findings I am about to tell you are not final until I reinstall our track exhaust system as I did not like the new test exhaust. The cars runs much cooler and stays around 175-180 degrees all the time even with the A/C on. The same holds true for the oil temp which just barely started to rise. This is because DC programs the new ECM so that the fan comes on earlier and runs longer therefor keeping the engine cooler. A side benifit is that the A/C is colder too. As for performance, I did see a lot less power. I could not even spin the tires in the mountains. This may be because of the test exhaust which is being re=moved this weekend and replaced by our track exhaust. There was still a lot of popping when letting off the throttle. Another problem that popped up was that there was a lot of pinging under load even though I was running 93 octane with octane booster. Once I returned to sea level in CT this problem went away and the car had a ton more power. Once I replace the exhaust I will retest and see what happens. I am also going to do some timed runs with DC ECM in place, again with the stock ECM, and then with the changed exhaust with both ECMs to see if there is really a big difference. I will keep you posted. If anyone needs new ECM's we have them for $249.95.
Robbie