2008 or 2006 with Paxton and other mods

We are planning on buying a 2008, its already on order. But this 2006 looks clean and modded as we would like. We have had many fast cars but we never had a Viper before and would like some advice.

The handling of the 2008 is reported to be superior to earlier years. How would this Viper with Aldan suspension compare with a 2008?

We like to go to track days and push the cars. How will a Viper motor with a Paxton hold up on a track?

Does a Paxton supercharger act like a turbocharger with lag and surges? Or is it like a roots positive displacement superchager, which I like on a car.

I couldn't locate ART in Buda, Texas on the web. What is their ruputation?

Are there other issues with an 2006 like engine heat that have been fixed in 2008?

Is there anything else we should consider? Which would your prefer, the Paxton 2006 or a new 2008?

Thanks for your input.


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the engine heat (exhaust)is one of the major fixes. I rode in a04-05 (forget) and living in FL and with alot of stop and go, slow driving on the beach I felt the heat. I read that
its been fixed now. We shall see. I traded an XLR on one and I just recieved email that I will be getting it in Dec instead of Feb!!!
email from dealer:
It looks like your Viper has moved up to a tentative build date of mid December!!! It is now in D1 Status with a scheduled build date.


I will keep you posted as to any further news we get.

If you want to go to track days you would be much better off with the 08.

Texas heat is a problem for Superchargers on the track, and Aldans have their issues.

If you were talking about a street only car, then my advice might go the other way.

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Id take the supercharged 06...

They look 90% the same..Only one has 500 rwhp while the other has 700 rwhp.

As far as handling goes..The 03-06 SRT10's are VERY impressive handlers and one could argue that the 08's being faster around a track is due to the extra 70 rwhp ( 520 rwhp VS 450 rwhp)that the 08 posesses.

Just my opinion but Id take the SC 2006 in a heart beat..The 2008 will trapp 126-128 in the 1/4 mile while the SC 2006 will trapp 131-133. Pretty big differance

Supercharged viper for drag strip = works great.
Supercharged viper for road course = gets hot.

08 will have 600 hp, not 500
08 has better tires, and a suspension matched to them.
08 has better differential, tires, transmission, cooling, wheels, suspension, engine, cooling, exhaust, etc.

Best of all, maybe order an 08 ACR and own the track.

I've had plenty of supercharged cars and never really noticed that much of a difference with heat soak. Atleast not enough to complain about. I live were its very hot and never had a heating issue with the car on the hottest day. Car actually runs and drives a heck of alot better than when it was stock not to mention having another 240rwhp. As far as the Aldans i havent had any problems with them at all. As a matter of fact i couldnt be happier. American Rancing Technolgy is located in Budda. I couldn't of been any happier with the guys that work there. I went in there wanting nothing less than perfection and reliability and that is exactly what i got. Cody and David are some of the nicest people you'll ever meet and really know vipers.

Hope some of the information helps.

Thanks Again for all the PM's and emails on the car.

Joe M.
956-873-1966

Nothing to worry about A.R.T. they are great guys, Ive got a TTGTS that was built by them. I have also seen this car in person. It is perfect. I personally would go with a car like this than a new one.

Other than it obviously has more power, but it has also already taken the hit. If you get the 08, you will take the hit.

Paul Hawker said:

Supercharged viper for drag strip = works great.
Supercharged viper for road course = gets hot.

08 will have 600 hp, not 500
08 has better tires, and a suspension matched to them.
08 has better differential, tires, transmission, cooling, wheels, suspension, engine, cooling, exhaust, etc.

Best of all, maybe order an 08 ACR and own the track.

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Paul,

Do you even have a paxton?

The 08 only has 500 rear wheel horsepower..
The 06 with a paxton will likely have near the 700 rear wheel horsepower mark.

If you are going to get an 06... Make sure you switch out the tires at least, then I think you will take an 08 on the track....

I would also look at a belt tensioner and a cooler upgrade...
That would help out with the belt slipping and the cooler will reduce the heat soak quite a bit.... and I mean quite a bit..... I know because I have a paxton...

Joe

Joe.

I sold my 03 Paxton/Corsa track equipped Vert several months ago.

That car was fantastic. Very powerful with the horsepower coming on hard as the revs built.

I really enjoyed it as a street car. Whooped all sorts of cars and lots of bikes.

Only mistake in my view was with the 3:54 gears. Those were great until I got the Paxton, and then it wound up a bit too quick for me. Going back to 3:07 allowed the Paxton to pull strongly without ripping the tires out from underneath me.

Nothing at all against Paxton, but the question was whether a 06 would be a better all around car, and going to the track 3 times a year.

In my experience Paxton equipped Vipers are a real handful on road courses. As they heat up the power drops off rapidly, even with the intercooler. Depending on the air temperature the power can change radically from run to run making getting the car sorted out on the track more challenging.

From what I see the 08 car is a vast improvement for regular driving and occasional track use.

I have no dog in this fight, but just my opinion. Your mileage may vary.

I also did not mentioned that warranty issues can become significant with the Paxton, where 600 hp 08 has it covered.

This, of course is mitigated by the lower price of an 06.

I think sounded pissy... Didn't mean to sound that way.... I guess I am a little tired...


I have the 3.55 gears... It is definitely true... If you don't shift quick enough and it the rev limiter or miss a gear.. it *****.... if your up on a lot of caffine and ready to roll.. you can do pretty good..

Did you have Doug's intercooler?? So far my car has stayed really cool compared to stock... But I really can't compare that well because the cooler system for the paxton wasn't setup properly from the beginning from my original tuner...

Did you switch out your tires to PS2's they make quite a big difference also compared to the run flats... those run flats are such a $hit tire....

Joe

Paul, you getting an 08 now?
I really do like the ACR... I just wished they added some more horse...
You could do an exhaust to get some more horse on it.. but that seems about it..
Kind of disappointing....

Thank you all for your responses. Please keep them coming. From the responses I've seen so far its a tough choice. We like both cars, the 08 and the Paxton 06.

Is there a cooling system upgrade that will keep it cool on the track?

Is there an intercooler upgrade?

Will the stock brakes be up to the task on the track? We go to Summit Point WV which is very ******* brakes.

Is the Paxton positive displacement or centrifugal? I prefer linear power to the surges you get with a turbo car. I have an 2007 Porsche 997TT. Its really fast but you have to get used to the lag.

I'm a lucky man, the wife wants me to get a Viper, and the faster the better in her mind.

Thanks.

steponz, What type of cooling system do you have? Radiator and intercooler upgrades? Is there instant power at all rpm? Thanks

Have an 05 Commemorative Edition vert....Paxton......3:55's and live in Phoenix.....yes it gets a little warm here in the summer....set a record for days over 110 this summer........yes there is a little heat soak from the high temps, but my car with the A/C on a 115 degree day in heavy traffic, never over heated.....stayed right about 205 degrees on both oil and H2O temp.......as-far-as having it on the track with those temps I don't have any idea......as we don't run the track in the middle of the summer here. 08? It looks like a GREAT car, and I will be anxious to drive one.....but I really like the 700 rwhp I have now, and wouldn't look back......PS...also took off the run flats, and went with PS2's and that made a hell of a difference in handling and traction.......although traction is still a problem...just my .02

Joe i forgot to mention that we have also upgraded the radiator to an aluminum one which im sure makes a really big difference with cooling. Wish i could remember the name. Like i said early ive never had a heating issue what so ever. There is no cabin heat and the side sills stay very cool as well. As a matter of fact the A/C works so well that on the lowest setting it still gets a bit to cold.

Let me know if you have any other question.

Thanks,

Joe M.

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vincy said:

We are planning on buying a 2008, its already on order. But this 2006 looks clean and modded as we would like. We have had many fast cars but we never had a Viper before and would like some advice.

The handling of the 2008 is reported to be superior to earlier years. How would this Viper with Aldan suspension compare with a 2008?

We like to go to track days and push the cars. How will a Viper motor with a Paxton hold up on a track?

Does a Paxton supercharger act like a turbocharger with lag and surges? Or is it like a roots positive displacement superchager, which I like on a car.

I couldn't locate ART in Buda, Texas on the web. What is their ruputation?

Are there other issues with an 2006 like engine heat that have been fixed in 2008?

Is there anything else we should consider? Which would your prefer, the Paxton 2006 or a new 2008?

Thanks for your input.


http://forums.viperclub.org/srt10-s...608650-one-cleanest-vipers-around-4-sale.html

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I think the stock 08 will outrun your 997 TT Porsche and is probably the fastest production car under 500k on the planet. The stock 08 is not anything like any car you may have ever driven. There is no other car of this weight with this power w/out traction control or awd on the planet. The torque alone can get you into trouble in the blink of an eye.

You will be able to hold your own against just about anything out there. Jumping right into a Paxton charged Viper as your first Viper...hmmmm...Not sure how smart that is. Also, you will have a very unique car everyone else simply drools over.

Now, in a year or two the s/c kits for the 08 will start to show up. Even with retuning and some exhaust mods alone you may get up to 640 to 650 flywheel hp..again stomping the snot out of 99.9% of all the other sports cars out there. When the s/c kits for the 08's start showing up in 09, you will be ready for it and will have a Viper that will out do most all other s/c Vipers and anything esle crazy enough to try you out there as well.

i would 08

JDMoney said:

Joe i forgot to mention that we have also upgraded the radiator to an aluminum one which im sure makes a really big difference with cooling. Wish i could remember the name. Like i said early ive never had a heating issue what so ever. There is no cabin heat and the side sills stay very cool as well. As a matter of fact the A/C works so well that on the lowest setting it still gets a bit to cold.

Let me know if you have any other question.

Thanks,

Joe M.

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Joe, thanks. I was wondering about this and now it makes more sense about no heat problems. This is a busy week for me and then I go away next week. My wife wanted me to fly down right away to see it but work and travel is in the way.