Has Hennessey regained the trust of the Viper community?

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I just watched his operation on DishNetwork HD Treasure's "How The Best Is Done" . Impressive results to say the least. However, I can't help but think of his past problems. I have no personal business dealings with the man, but it's amazing he can get his place up and running with paying customers. Don't they know about his prior business practices? And doesn't the producer of the show check into that, before airing a show about somebody with questionable business ethics?
 
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I just watched his operation on DishNetwork HD Treasure's "How The Best Is Done" . Impressive results to say the least. However, I can't help but think of his past problems. I have no personal business dealings with the man, but it's amazing he can get his place up and running with paying customers. Don't they know about his prior business practices? And doesn't the producer of the show check into that, before airing a show about somebody with questionable business ethics?

I recently bought a car from him. It's still up in the air whether he will honor his word. I'll keep you posted.
 
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Yea, I only wish Hillary could somehow involve herself as well, then it would be all just so damn good.
 

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I am self employed and deal w/ many types of businessmen. My experience has been that unethical businessmen do not change, only their clients/customers do. I have had no personal experience w/ Mr. Hennessey, but people I do trust have said some pretty unflattering things about him. Think about it, no one in this forum has anything to gain except maybe other tuners by giving Mr. Hennessey a bad report. The other tuners never comment on him (bad business to do so), just those that have dealt with him or know of friends who have.

Vipers are too rare and too important and too expensive to take that kind of gamble with in my opinion. There are several tuners and techs around w/ stellar reputations, DC Performance, Chuck Tator, Heffner, Doug Levin, Paolo Castenella, SVS, just to name a few.
 

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One example might be that we have a Viper owner who bought a Hennessey Venom 650 and it Dyno'd a meager 450hp to the rear wheels.....$30K later and LESS hp.......I understand it's just one car, but gee **** someone took him to the cleaners!!!
 

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I just watched his operation on DishNetwork HD Treasure's "How The Best Is Done" . Impressive results to say the least. However, I can't help but think of his past problems. I have no personal business dealings with the man, but it's amazing he can get his place up and running with paying customers. Don't they know about his prior business practices? And doesn't the producer of the show check into that, before airing a show about somebody with questionable business ethics?

To get back to your question. I think we all ask the same thing. He must have contacts within these magazines.

I don't know why the other tuners don't bombard the magazines with their TT & SS Vipers for these articles.
 

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I just have one question for you... WHY???

Short answer – A car that is fast, furious, and famous appealed to me.

Long answer – Longing for the days of my misspent youth when I had a black ’72 Datsun 240Z, my fave car ever, I had been shopping for months for an all black sports car, preferably convertible, that would bring back some fun driving memories. I drove everything from Vettes, F-360, Maser, Porsche TT, Audi TT, 350Z, M3, S4 and numerous forgettable cars.

I know this might gets some cyber eggs thrown at me, but I wasn’t a fan of Dodges so I hadn’t even considered the Viper. I grew up loving stock car racing, the Wood Brothers and Fords while hating Dodges and Richard Petty because that’s the way my Dad taught me. In the 60’s, there weren’t a lot of peel and stick graphics, so a lot of guys at our local track hired my dad to paint the numbers, sponsor info, and hand letter the driver’s name. The cars would sit on a trailer in my back yard on Saturday mornings and I could sit in it as long as I didn’t shake the car while dad painted. As I pretended to drive, I always won in a Ford and suffered a humiliated defeat in a Dodge or Chevy.

So I didn’t even think about a Viper, despite having long admired their looks and reputation, until a friend pushed me to give it a try. By the end of the test drive, I knew it was the car for me. I went home and told my wife that just once in my life I would like to own a 500+ HP car and she said go for it. I bought an 04 Vert that I tremendously enjoy. Then I discovered that the real fun is taking it to the track (road course). But most tracks won't allow a vert, so I went shopping for a coupe.

Then that same friend who got me to test drive the Viper sent me the following vids. It was the car featured on the cover of the June 2006 Motor Trend,

2006 Chevrolet Corvette Z06, 2005 MTI Pontiac GTO, 2005 Livernois Ford Mustang GT, 2005 Lingenfelter Chevrolet Corvette, 2006 Hennessey Dodge Viper Coupe and 2005 Accufab Ford GT - Performance Sport Coupe Comparison & Review - Motor Trend

Road & Track Magazine - Hennessey Venom 1000 Twin Turbo Viper (9/2007)

As well as the Sept 2007 Road and Track

Road & Track Magazine - Hennessey Venom 1000 Twin Turbo Viper (9/2007)

YouTube - Venom vs Veyron 0-200 mph

Then I had to tell my wife that just once in my life I would like to own a 1000+ HP car and she said go for it.

I spoke with Hennessey over the course of several months and he was a pleasure to do business with. I was concerned because of what I had read online, but figured the car had been independently validated and that he had a lot of reputation riding on this one.

When the car was delivered, it had a few problems, most of them minor but I wanted them taken care of. The worst of problems is that one of the turbos has a seal blown and it’s blowing oil. We’re working these issues out now and it appears he’s taking care of everything. I’ll let you know if it is otherwise.
 

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From what I gathered he wasn't too bad to deal with if you were local but the people that sent him their cars were... well, you know the stories. This is just what I have heard on the web so take it for what it worth. :dunno:
 

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If you had concerns after reading about him then I ask again...why? Why would you trust someone with an $80k car if you knew there have been bad experiences. I think that's just asking for trouble. Either that or you are too trusting.

I have some swamp land in Florida for sale....
 

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Short answer – A car that is fast, furious, and famous appealed to me.

Long answer – Longing for the days of my misspent youth when I had a black ’72 Datsun 240Z, my fave car ever, I had been shopping for months for an all black sports car, preferably convertible, that would bring back some fun driving memories. I drove everything from Vettes, F-360, Maser, Porsche TT, Audi TT, 350Z, M3, S4 and numerous forgettable cars.

I know this might gets some cyber eggs thrown at me, but I wasn’t a fan of Dodges so I hadn’t even considered the Viper. I grew up loving stock car racing, the Wood Brothers and Fords while hating Dodges and Richard Petty because that’s the way my Dad taught me. In the 60’s, there weren’t a lot of peel and stick graphics, so a lot of guys at our local track hired my dad to paint the numbers, sponsor info, and hand letter the driver’s name. The cars would sit on a trailer in my back yard on Saturday mornings and I could sit in it as long as I didn’t shake the car while dad painted. As I pretended to drive, I always won in a Ford and suffered a humiliated defeat in a Dodge or Chevy.

So I didn’t even think about a Viper, despite having long admired their looks and reputation, until a friend pushed me to give it a try. By the end of the test drive, I knew it was the car for me. I went home and told my wife that just once in my life I would like to own a 500+ HP car and she said go for it. I bought an 04 Vert that I tremendously enjoy. Then I discovered that the real fun is taking it to the track (road course). But most tracks won't allow a vert, so I went shopping for a coupe.

Then that same friend who got me to test drive the Viper sent me the following vids. It was the car featured on the cover of the June 2006 Motor Trend,

2006 Chevrolet Corvette Z06, 2005 MTI Pontiac GTO, 2005 Livernois Ford Mustang GT, 2005 Lingenfelter Chevrolet Corvette, 2006 Hennessey Dodge Viper Coupe and 2005 Accufab Ford GT - Performance Sport Coupe Comparison & Review - Motor Trend

Road & Track Magazine - Hennessey Venom 1000 Twin Turbo Viper (9/2007)

As well as the Sept 2007 Road and Track

Road & Track Magazine - Hennessey Venom 1000 Twin Turbo Viper (9/2007)

YouTube - Venom vs Veyron 0-200 mph

Then I had to tell my wife that just once in my life I would like to own a 1000+ HP car and she said go for it.

I spoke with Hennessey over the course of several months and he was a pleasure to do business with. I was concerned because of what I had read online, but figured the car had been independently validated and that he had a lot of reputation riding on this one.

When the car was delivered, it had a few problems, most of them minor but I wanted them taken care of. The worst of problems is that one of the turbos has a seal blown and it’s blowing oil. We’re working these issues out now and it appears he’s taking care of everything. I’ll let you know if it is otherwise.

Very nice..

That was my Lingenfelter 427 TT that ran against Hennessy. I can tell you from just my experience with having 1100 RWHP is that it is just toooooo much. Cant hook-up, squirlly as hell. The car needs to be going 185 MPH just to get stabilized and the up thru 225...

For good old american street use. 600-700 HP and 600-700 Lb Ft. is just fine. When you hit the barrier we did.... Straight line drag racing is all its good for.... AFTER you run an automatic with line lock amd hoosier drag slicks.

Good luck with your fix.

As with all tuner cars....once you start messing around....there is just no end to the money pit which is our hobby.

I sold my car to Golfer Paul Azinger. I now understand and have seen it is for sale again.

SchackMan
 
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Very nice..

That was my Lingenfelter 427 TT that ran against Hennessey. I can tell you from just my experience with having 1100 RWHP is that it is just toooooo much. Cant hook-up, squirlly as hell. The car needs to be going 185 MPH just to get stabilized and the up thru 225...

For good old american street use. 600-700 HP and 600-700 Lb Ft. is just fine. When you hit the barrier we did.... Straight line drag racing is all its good for.... AFTER you run an automatic with line lock amd hoosier drag slicks.

Good luck with your fix.

As with all tuner cars....once you start messing around....there is just no end to the money pit which is our hobby.

I sold my car to Golfer Paul Azinger. I now understand and have seen it is for sale again.

SchackMan

Your Vette was the one in the Motor Trend or the Road & Track stories? Both were done at NAS Lemorre. In one of those tests the Lingenfelter rear end blew up. I hope that wasn't you.

Yes, I agree the 1000+ HP is crazy. I don't have much interest in drag racing, but I love road courses, so the 1080 RWHP wouldn't be of much use to me. Prior to taking delivery, I asked Hennessey to dial back the boost a bit to make the car safer to drive and put less stress on parts. Right now it's making 880 RWHP but it can be increased if needed. As a racer, I have lots to learn. I figure the 880 HP can get me around the track quick enough without being so much power that I end up doing something stupid.

I have run my near stock 04 Viper (540 HP) at our local road course, Summit Point, and almost no one can keep up with me in the novice bracket. The two cars that whupped up on me were a race prepped Mitsu Evo and a Ford GT twin turbo making 800+HP. I can't wait to get the Hennessey out there just as soon as the track starts back up in Spring.
 

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I know it's old news and old print but here it is again, I like the power and performance his cars make I prob just wont be sending him mine or my $

And maybe he turned over a new leaf?


Viper specialist John Hennessey is up to his cylinder heads in problems This story comes from the a-4073 issue of AutoWeek magazine.

Ninety-eight percent of his customers love him, John Hennessey says. But a few hate him and some have sued.Hennessey Motorsports in Houston specializes in tuning Vipers, adding more power to what is already one of the most powerful cars in the world. Hennessey’s Vipers have been featured in this and many other magazines and the cars he has sent to us and to other media were impressive performers. Hennessey presents himself well, projecting an image of the consummate Texas good ol’ boy whose reassuring conversational style and howyewdoin’ demeanor put customers at ease. People believe they will get what he says he’ll give them. But not all people do.
According to a lawsuit filed in Salt Lake City, Utah resident Taig Stewart sent his Viper GTS to Hennessey last May for an engine upgrade to 1100 hp along with several other modifications. For that he wire-transferred $142,500 to Hennessey. The lawsuit states the parties agreed the car would be done by mid-July 2001. As of press time the car was still sitting under a tarp in Hennessey’s shop in Houston. Or most of the car, anyway. Stewart’s suit claims Hennessey sold the car’s engine, transmission, wheels, tires and hood. The suit seeks return of the money, the Viper and “no less than $1 million” in punitive damages.
Hennessey claims he’s just slow in getting the work done.
“My side of the story is we’re planning on finishing his car and planning on giving him everything that he paid for,” said Hennessey. As for the parts being sold, “That’s totally false. We’ve got all his parts in the shop except the hood and he wanted to do a lightweight hood.”
Stewart is not the first unsatisfied customer. The longer we dug the more dissatisfaction we found. Here’s a sampling:
<LI type=square>On Nov. 14 a New Jersey court entered a final judgement of $133,674 against Hennessey on behalf of Viper owner Gary Dan for a botched conversion.
<LI type=square>William Walters said he is out over $22,000 after shipping his Corvette to Hennessey for a head and cam package that was never done; he did have five rods bent and a head gasket damaged on the dyno in Hennessey’s shop during an experiment Hennessey tried with nitrous oxide.
<LI type=square>Jerry Johnson said he had to file suit in Placer County Court in California to straighten out registration and engine computer problems on a Viper he bought from Hennessey. n Jon Belinkie said he loves the changes made to his Viper but had to sue in his home state of Maryland, then register the judgement in Texas, to recover overcharges Hennessey made on his American Express card.
<LI type=square>Rick Ryan said he had to hound Hennessey for eight months by long distance from Marietta, Georgia, to put the proper wing and stripes on his Viper.
<LI type=square>Mark Lublin said he sent his Viper cylinder heads to Hennessey for new valves but when the heads came back he found the “new” valves were actually used; a cam that was delivered to Lublin in a Hennessey box turned out to be a stock Chrysler cam. Lublin was finally refunded $5,715 from American Express but only after nine months of disputing the charge; and he got no money from Hennessey.
<LI type=square>Bruce Iannatuono said he ordered $8,500 worth of Hennessey parts for his mechanic in Baltimore to install but was only able to use two-thirds of what was shipped, and then only after haranguing Hennessey for six months on an order that was originally promised in five weeks.
Most of the complaints come from outside Texas. Hennessey, some said, tends to take better care of local customers.
“If you were out of state, man you were fair game,” said Kyle Kent, a former employee at Hennessey Motorsports. When an out-of-state car came in it was sometimes parted out, with the wheels, tires and whatever else looked good going to other cars waiting to be finished or sold outright, according to Kent and others inside Hennessey Motorsports. Then Hennessey would call the car’s owner and try to sell him an upgraded kit. If the customer balked, Hennessey would take parts from other cars in the shop, or just let the job sit.
Kent described one typical disassembly on an out-of-state Viper. “The motor and transmission went into a Durango John was putting together, the brakes went to someone else, the hood went to a guy in Ohio, the rear bumper to South Carolina, man you name it. We had multiple cars like that.”
Another common practice was putting stock parts on what was supposed to be an upgraded car.
“One customer spent $130,000 to $140,000 and that guy thought he had purchased a Venom 650R package which he thought came with the stroker motor,” Kent said. “John told him he was getting a stroker. He was just getting heads and cams.” Hennessey denies any wrongdoing. “I’ve got probably 3000 customers,” he said. “I’ve built over 300 cars and out of that I’ve had a handful of people that I’ve had some sort of a delivery problem with and I’ve had some of them who have sued me. So is that some sort of a trend or is that par for the course?”




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Congrats Deke01 on a cool car. I have seen that car first hand and it is very nice. There is something to be said about getting a car with history and Hennessey's magazine entry cars are always pretty well built. He does not go out there to lose. I hope you get everything sorted out.

As far as 1000 rwhp being to much for the street, it is no problem if the car is set up right. My FGT has no issues putting it down.

Check out the Feb issue of C&D...

Congratulations Heffner, PeakCompletions, Gary Javo! - The Ford GT Forum

My Twin Turbo GTS is a handful no doubt, but it will give rock your world through 3rd gear and up :headbang:
 

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Congrats Deke01 on a cool car. I have seen that car first hand and it is very nice. There is something to be said about getting a car with history and Hennessey's magazine entry cars are always pretty well built. He does not go out there to lose. I hope you get everything sorted out.

As far as 1000 rwhp being to much for the street, it is no problem if the car is set up right. My FGT has no issues putting it down.

Check out the Feb issue of C&D...

Congratulations Heffner, PeakCompletions, Gary Javo! - The Ford GT Forum

My Twin Turbo GTS is a handful no doubt, but it will give rock your world through 3rd gear and up :headbang:


That's your car in the story? Great article, I had not seen it before. I love the FGT. I'm planning on that being my next fun car. Unfortunately I have to wait until I move to a bigger house with a bigger garage. And then I need a trailer to haul the toys to tracks and shows. Then I need a truck to pull the trailer. And then I need... Wow, business better be very good very soon.
 

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Your Vette was the one in the Motor Trend or the Road & Track stories? Both were done at NAS Lemorre. In one of those tests the Lingenfelter rear end blew up. I hope that wasn't you.

Yes, I agree the 1000+ HP is crazy. I don't have much interest in drag racing, but I love road courses, so the 1080 RWHP wouldn't be of much use to me. Prior to taking delivery, I asked Hennessey to dial back the boost a bit to make the car safer to drive and put less stress on parts. Right now it's making 880 RWHP but it can be increased if needed. As a racer, I have lots to learn. I figure the 880 HP can get me around the track quick enough without being so much power that I end up doing something stupid.

I have run my near stock 04 Viper (540 HP) at our local road course, Summit Point, and almost no one can keep up with me in the novice bracket. The two cars that whupped up on me were a race prepped Mitsu Evo and a Ford GT twin turbo making 800+HP. I can't wait to get the Hennessey out there just as soon as the track starts back up in Spring.

I was in the June 2006 Motor-Trend.
 

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Thanks for the link to the article. I find the braking to be awesome, but what's with the vette's rotors busting while sitting? Since they had spares I'd assume the ones on the car were new or near new - but 3 busted??? I've got Eradispeed on my 01 now. Starting to see why Roe racing doesn't sell cross-drilled rotors. Man would I be pissed if that happened to me. Guess they expected it since they just happened to have 2 spare rotors with them.

Ted
 

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Wow, my first sports car was a 72 240 z and I loved that liitle go cart. Does this mean I will own a car like the one you just mentioned, I hope business is good this year also. Congratulations on the purchase! Live everyday like it was your last.........enjoy it,you earned it!
 

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