It is fun though and what better to do on a Sunday Night than argue about some senseless quarter mile times.LOLJeeze, you alone are helping build my post count like never befopre. Not sure if I should thank you and curse you.
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99 R/T 10
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99VPRGTS
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Sigh, I feel sorry for you:
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Go learn a little bit. For example, if a car traps 11.0@130 MPH and the DA is 5000FT...that EXACT SAME car will run a 10.3@138 if the DA was sea level or 0FT.
Go ask Jamie Furman about DA and show him this thread. But, just to warn you, he is going to say the same thing to you that we are in that DA GREAT EFFECTS track times/traps.
Just beacuse you guys were trapping good that day doesn't mean that you wouldn't trap ****ty somewhere else. DA is more than just weather dude.
Another example
The guy that posted up ran a 10.8@127 with a 2700 FT DA. If he runs at sea level (0 DA), he would have run a 10.4@131.
Lastly, in parts of Vegas, even when it's 60 degrees out and no humidity, the DA is still over 2000 FT...why do you think this is?
But who would win in a fight Rambo or Rocky.Chuck Norris is one bad SOB, he is "documentated" all over google as well.
I understand exactly what your saying but HUNDREDS of times my old car ran 130 plus your talking about a car that was used as a mag benchmark car over a 8 year periodSigh, I feel sorry for you:
DA Calculator - Density Altitude Calculator - DragTimes.com
Density Altitude Calculator - English
Go learn a little bit. For example, if a car traps 11.0@130 MPH and the DA is 5000FT...that EXACT SAME car will run a 10.3@138 if the DA was sea level or 0FT.
Go ask Jamie Furman about DA and show him this thread. But, just to warn you, he is going to say the same thing to you that we are in that DA GREAT EFFECTS track times/traps.
Just beacuse you guys were trapping good that day doesn't mean that you wouldn't trap ****ty somewhere else. DA is more than just weather dude.
Another example
The guy that posted up ran a 10.8@127 with a 2700 FT DA. If he runs at sea level (0 DA), he would have run a 10.4@131.
Lastly, in parts of Vegas, even when it's 60 degrees out and no humidity, the DA is still over 2000 FT...why do you think this is?
Ps my point is if the car ran 200 times at LEAST 130 mph plus (March -Nov ) ,won its NA class every year of the Mopar Atl Nats (running against many other modded NA cars )what are the odds of getting a favorable DA for EVERY outing hundreds of times in a 8 year period
Simms
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I'm putting my money on 99RT/10. He's a driving **** and has supported Viper drag racing (the good old days of the V10 Nationals) scene since day 1.
Does Norm or Big Gun post here?
Does Norm or Big Gun post here?
99VPRGTS
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Right, and HUNDREDS of times your conditions were not that bad...and it has little to do with the temp. I can bet you any amount of money that you wish to bet. If your car was taken up to a DA of 5000 FT, you would trap NO WHERE close to 130. Please understand that I am not arguing the fact that your car trapped that. What I am pointing out is that you are wrong in saying that DA doesn't effect anything. I live in FL where it is has hot and humid as anywhere in the country. BUT, the DA still isn't bad because we are down here at sea level. I'm not talking about any particular car...I'm talking about EVERY car and the science behind it all.
99VPRGTS
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It depends on what tracks you were at. If you ran at 5000FT with 50 degree and 0 humidity outside in the middle of November, you would still be running much slower than if you were at sea level at 100 degrees with humidity in July. The odds might have been good...remember, temperature is only part of it.
But comments about this guys Viper running a 10.8@127 not being good is silly. I first looked at it and was thinking, "damn, that trap speed *****" But then, when I saw that his DA was 2700 FT I was really impressed. At 0-1000FT DA he would be running mid 10's@ over 130.
Alexarz
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Don't bother saying "congrats" when you follow it with cynicism. You can live by your nerdy statistics but in the real world, people like myself are out there making our own stats (4-0 vs C6 Z06's). Peak power is not the final word on acceleration. What the GTS has over the SRT and Z06 is torque under the curve. Building up to peak power, a GTS stomps both of them and with my extensive exhaust mods
D), it pulls better on top as well. I am willing to speculate that my GTS is a low 11 second 1/4 mile car at this point (don't forget those smooth tubes ) and I was a solid 2 car lengths ahead of the vette. If this fact disturbs you and causes you to twitch at night in sleeplessness, I hereby extend my deepest sympathies but the results stand and my fleet of Vipers has left more than 1, more than 2 but fewer than 4 Z06 owners weeping home with bitter disappointment. It's the sort of thing that heroes are made out of.Guys you cannot argue with an idget (did I spell that right 1Bad)?
You race on the coast. Guess what is common about those locations? Duh. Oops, misspelled that also it is DA. The DA is trying to compensate for atmospheric differences that affect the ability to make horsepower and drag resistance. Well a major component of that is pressure. The world is not flat (I hope you got beyond 1st grade and have come to realize that fact). Same argument we had a long time ago when you stated that cars at higher altitudes should be as fast or quick as the temperate coastal guys. It cannot happen.
And sorry but anyone who could type this without being high or drunk is an idget:
and then this:
You race on the coast. Guess what is common about those locations? Duh. Oops, misspelled that also it is DA. The DA is trying to compensate for atmospheric differences that affect the ability to make horsepower and drag resistance. Well a major component of that is pressure. The world is not flat (I hope you got beyond 1st grade and have come to realize that fact). Same argument we had a long time ago when you stated that cars at higher altitudes should be as fast or quick as the temperate coastal guys. It cannot happen.
And sorry but anyone who could type this without being high or drunk is an idget:
or this:
or this:
or this:
or this:
and then this:
He obviously had a car that was anti physics. Maybe it was the flux capacitor.
Disturbed
Viper Owner
Steve-o....you ran and didn't call me....I'm going to tell your wife and she'll kick your ass... LOL!!!!
Great runs. Tune, tune, tune. 10.5 are in the car forsure.
I think people forget, your car is stock 488ci.... Your pulling the same mph I did with street tires and 510ci.
1DUMBGTS is retard.
Great runs. Tune, tune, tune. 10.5 are in the car forsure.
I think people forget, your car is stock 488ci.... Your pulling the same mph I did with street tires and 510ci.
1DUMBGTS is retard.
Disturbed
Viper Owner
Don't bother saying "congrats" when you follow it with cynicism. You can live by your nerdy statistics but in the real world, people like myself are out there making our own stats (4-0 vs C6 Z06's). Peak power is not the final word on acceleration. What the GTS has over the SRT and Z06 is torque under the curve. Building up to peak power, a GTS stomps both of them and with my extensive exhaust mods
Alex...let me rip that GTS down the strip...I bet I can do it.
Alexarz
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Alex...let me rip that GTS down the strip...I bet I can do it.
Forget about it. I know damn well that if I let you use my car, it would come back tweaked, although I am certain that you would run a low 11 with it. You can't help yourself when it comes to modifying even that which is fine. You have a condition called "Insatiable Wrenchibulus Acutus" and you need therapy, my friend.
And you DONT RACE at all you absolutely do nothing but hide like a little *itch behind yoor computer and of coarse quote useless theorys.When a record is published its funny how they NEVER MENTION DA .(You brought this up in a prior POST AND GOT *ITCH SLAPPED again i WILL TRY TO FIND THAT POST.
You have a slow car too
Ps so i guess when my car trapped 130 in a DA of 2000 feet THAT DIDNT COUNT .I guess when Furman ran 11.5 in a bone stock Gts that didnt count. I guess when Furman ran 10.8 in a bone stock Gen 4 that didnt count .Where in ALL the Drag Times records ON LINE in there an asterick for track DA that part day .There is not, A RECORD IS A RECORD.
99 R/T 10
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Didn't Jamie run a 10.91 in his 08? Or did he go back out and do another record only the magazines know about?
*Not a knock on you Jamie, but on 1SADGTS's memory capabilities*
*Not a knock on you Jamie, but on 1SADGTS's memory capabilities*
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As to records and comparisons the difference is where you are all wet. Comparing runs should incorporate the DA as it is a REAL effect and not a theory. Records are indeed records with most set at low altitudes and desirable conditions. How many drag racing records are set in Denver. Is it slow drivers or slow conditions?
And as to your stated *itch slapping, that can only be done if you have the intelligence to make a proper argument. Something that you have proven many times over to be beyond your functional illiteracy.
Comparisons should BUT THEY DONT .You should race your car BUT YOU DONT.If you DO THEN list the events in which you have won .(PS RACING THEORYS BEHIND you computer screen dont count.)For some reason NO ONE is addressing a 11.3 run at 130 mph with a DA of 2000 feet .
Whatever he ran he holds EVERY STOCK TIRE AMERICAN PRODUCTION CAR RECORD out there and not one of them is prefaced with an asterick for DA .You run what you run a record is a record as your disputes on this matter should be taken up with the DRAG TIMES WEBSITE.Didn't Jamie run a 10.91 in his 08? Or did he go back out and do another record only the magazines know about?
*Not a knock on you Jamie, but on 1SADGTS's memory capabilities*
lOL in accordinance with ALL the theorys out there and none of the actual results since my car ran 11.2 at 132 on pump gas and stock tires with a stock compuer (loading up up a idle from the big cam )IF i had had the modern day advantage of being able to tune the car with a Rowe Vec Ect then i surely left 40 horsepower or so on the table so the car really SHOULD (NO MATTER IF IT DID OR NOT )HAVE RUN 135 on a good day.
bushido
Viper Owner
Do you still have your GTS?
Hey idget please post the official sanctioning body that retains these "records." Were they done under official conditions and recorded as such? If not they are UNOFFICIAL records. And web postings that were self officiated do not count (must be recorded during an official event (where track conditions are verifiable).
Come on idget show some real records.
99 R/T 10
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boy, Did We Hijack Steve's Thread. Sorry My Brother.....................
Ricketts
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boy, Did We Hijack Steve's Thread. Sorry My Brother.....................
Poor Steve!! Your thread has nothing to even do with you anymore
Alexarz
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Poor Steve!! Your thread has nothing to even do with you anymore
LOL! We might as well turn it into a penis contest. Are we going to compete on overall weight and girth or is this going to be a length-only contest? Or how about something different and make it based on activity level and penil accomplishments? I've been harpooning fine tail while this 1BadGTS was skipping his english classes, many moons ago until the present time. 3 sisters remains my crowning jewel but I have a plethora of other ghastly tales that I am willing to place against other competitors. Who's in?
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