What kind of headers for my supercharged GTS

Vital Velocity · Aug 23, 2009

Car has a built motor with the DLM paxton kit pushing about 9psi. Has fuel to support the car along with drivetrain, however it has stock headers (has corsa cat back)

Whats a good set of headers for my car? How much HP/TQ would i be looking at? Currently its sitting right around 700rwhp

plumcrazy · Aug 23, 2009

id always tell you to talk to doug but i have the bellangers and love them. id also try a set of M&M headers too.

Camfab · Aug 23, 2009

That's really impressive power for stock headers.

99 R/T 10 · Aug 24, 2009

If you can find a set of TNT or HMS 1 3/4" (5 into 1) headers, those would be the best to go with for max power. If you go with Balengers, cut out the pickle for better airflow at the higher RPMs.

kennyhemi · Aug 24, 2009

Since we are on the conversation, What do you guys think of KooKs?

Red Snake · Aug 24, 2009

I have Belangers with the Roe and love them. :2tu:

isanti · Aug 24, 2009

Are most of the headers for a gen 1 and 2 the 5 individual pipes to the collectors? Is there an easy way to figure out what pipe goes where?

Simms · Aug 24, 2009

My B&B headers worked well with S/C setup. They are 1 3/4" 5 into 1 design just like the HMS headers.

Vital Velocity · Apr 14, 2010

Are borla's worth anything?

Madduc · Apr 14, 2010

Like my B&B's also.

RTTTTed · Apr 14, 2010

With superchargers the best policy is BIG pipes. Sean Roe told me that if I installed my Belangers with the pickles I could expect 20rwhp LESS than the stock headers! I torched out the pickles. The Belangers are good headers, but NO PICKLES for Forced Induction engines. I have TNTs on my Sapphire GTS with Roe.

What have you got done to your engine that the Paxton makes that much HP with 9psi?

Ted

00prowler · Apr 15, 2010

I liked my Edelbrocks...Roe car 660 RWHP...Coated nicely with matching heat sheilds...atractive price as well! Al

Viper Fever · Apr 15, 2010

RTTTTed said:
With superchargers the best policy is BIG pipes. Sean Roe told me that if I installed my Belangers with the pickles I could expect 20rwhp LESS than the stock headers! I torched out the pickles. The Belangers are good headers, but NO PICKLES for Forced Induction engines. I have TNTs on my Sapphire GTS with Roe.

What have you got done to your engine that the Paxton makes that much HP with 9psi?

Ted

Ted
I have Belanger headers with a Roe supercharger what are the pickles you are talking about. Also where are they located in the headers. I just happen to have my headers off.
Thanks

jmillsUT28 · Apr 15, 2010

Same question as Viper Fever. Would like to check and see if mine have the pickles or not. Would be nice to pick up another 20RWHP!! ha

BAD BOYZZ GARAGE · Apr 15, 2010

Vital Velocity,

I would go with a staight through design of 1 3/4" merge collector 5 to 1. Your V10 with S/C installed moves a high volume of air. You can really improve your TRQ & HP numbers with this type of bolt on.

Best of luck on your upgrade. Please let us know your TRQ & HP numbers afterwards.

Toddy

plumcrazy · Apr 15, 2010

if you search pickles in the gen 2 section, im sure you will find pics from way back

Steve 00RT/10 · Apr 15, 2010

jmillsUT28 said:
Same question as Viper Fever. Would like to check and see if mine have the pickles or not. Would be nice to pick up another 20RWHP!! ha

Both our 5 pound Roe cars are pickled. 593HP/636TQ is pretty much all you're going to get out of a 5 pounder...although the dyno guy told me I would likely have touched 600 if I hadn't shut him down at 5800 RPM.

I have 85K miles on one set of the Bellangers. .....Tightened a couple header bolts once about 30,000 miles ago. That's it.

I don't think Lou Bellanger agrees with the pickle removal thing, but it's above my pay grade to dispute anyone who says it will gain you power. All I know is my numbers above...pretty darn good.

Steve

RTTTTed · Apr 15, 2010

I've posted pickle pics on other threads. If you look in every collector you'll see a crimped 1" tube in the middle of the collectors. If you don't see the pickles, you have the "non-pickled" headers.

Ted

plumcrazy · Apr 15, 2010

no pickels on my belangers, no problems at all with power and/or torque curve.

RTTTTed · Apr 15, 2010

I think the pickles are good for midrange torque on stock power levels.

Superchargers want NO restriction expecially on the exhaust side. Sean Roe said 20rwhp "less than stock headers". Not much room for 50% more air flow than stock engine. Massive increase in midrange air exhausted from a Roe supercharger. Easy to see restriction in the collector. I realise that it's not really a 50% restriction, it just looks like it, lol.

Those are excellent numbers for 5# Steve

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Ted

mbccenter · Apr 15, 2010

Our M&M Performance header will out performe all the other curent manufactures on a supercharged Gen 2.

Vital Velocity · Apr 16, 2010

mbccenter said:
Our M&M Performance header will out performe all the other curent manufactures on a supercharged Gen 2.

Do you have some info on your headers?

Paul Hawker · Apr 16, 2010

Maybe pick up that used set of SVSi headers advertised a couple weeks back.

They have Burns collectors that are well respected.

(no comments on SVS please).

Steve 00RT/10 · Apr 16, 2010

RTTTTed said:
Those are excellent numbers for 5# Steve

Ted

Thanks Ted. I probably had a pretty strong 'stocker engine' to start with.

Steve

Viper Fever · Apr 16, 2010

RTTTTed said:
I think the pickles are good for midrange torque on stock power levels.

Superchargers want NO restriction expecially on the exhaust side. Sean Roe said 20rwhp "less than stock headers". Not much room for 50% more air flow than stock engine. Massive increase in midrange air exhausted from a Roe supercharger. Easy to see restriction in the collector. I realise that it's not really a 50% restriction, it just looks like it, lol.

Those are excellent numbers for 5# Steve

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Ted

Ted thanks for the picture. Whats the best way to remove them.

Russ M · Apr 16, 2010

mbccenter said:
Our M&M Performance header will out performe all the other curent manufactures on a supercharged Gen 2.

Do you have any dyno tests to back this up?

Would be interesting to see some back to back dyno graphs.

Vital Velocity · Apr 21, 2010

Now i just need to find a decent set of headers in the classifieds

Vital Velocity · Apr 22, 2010

Anyone else have feedback on edelbrock headers? Seem priced decent, but read some reviews online that they arent the greates for FI?

plumcrazy · Apr 22, 2010

Don't they have a smaller diamter tube ? If so. That's why its not for FI

99 R/T 10 · Apr 22, 2010

Edelbrocks have 1 3/4" tubes.

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