Eibach Pro-kit Lowering Springs
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Tom Sessions
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They are not hard to do. Remove the shocks and use a spring compression tool to remove the old springs and swap on the new ones.. Just remember to torque the shock bolts with the weight of the car on the suspension. Then a good alignment. Can do it with my eyes closed.
Ricketts
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Easy job, actually Viper is one of the easiest cars I've ever had to put lower springs on.
TCurtner
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Make sure you really want to do this, however. Though the car looks great (I have an 08), the handling improvement is debateable. I think the car actually felt more secure & planted (spirited driving and track work) with the original springs...I would love to have the factory 'feel' with about 1.5" lowering - these do not appear to do it.
viperDoug
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Make sure you really want to do this, however. Though the car looks great (I have an 08), the handling improvement is debateable. I think the car actually felt more secure & planted (spirited driving and track work) with the original springs...I would love to have the factory 'feel' with about 1.5" lowering - these do not appear to do it.
I agree. I put these on my '06 and I wouldn't sayt he car handles worse or feels worse, but rather different. "Nimble" is the best way to describe how the car feels now. The car almost feels a little paranoid now. It does look great though! If you can swing it, install these with a coilover adjustable suspension like Motons and you will be very happy.
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I like the ride. The car feels better in the corners to me. I to wish it was a little lower, but it is a good improvement over the stock appearance.
Chuck 98 RT/10
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Somebody better define the term "ride quality." IMO if we're talking about a sports car there is only one acceptable definition and that is, it handles better.
But if it's the type that drives with a latte in one hand and a phone in the other their definition might be more along the lines of soft.
But if it's the type that drives with a latte in one hand and a phone in the other their definition might be more along the lines of soft.
snakem04
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I was thinking about getting myself a set of these springs. Is it worth it to buy a lower set of spring caps. Like the ones partsrack sells and are there anyother places to get spring caps.
BlackSnake99
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Timely thread, as I just bought a set for my '99 GTS.
Chuck and Leslie, I am interested in your input...
I have been told that the Eibachs take you as low as you should go, because you can stay with factory alignment specs, and that caps are too much. True/false?
Second, I like a firm ride and am really interested in track handling. I'm not a 'latte guy' that Chuck referred to
. Will the Eibachs be a step in the right direction? Motons etc. are simply not in the budget. Did you change the settings on your Koni's?
Chuck and Leslie, I am interested in your input...
I have been told that the Eibachs take you as low as you should go, because you can stay with factory alignment specs, and that caps are too much. True/false?
Second, I like a firm ride and am really interested in track handling. I'm not a 'latte guy' that Chuck referred to
. Will the Eibachs be a step in the right direction? Motons etc. are simply not in the budget. Did you change the settings on your Koni's?I bought rebuilt shocks and springs from John Archer, actually came from another GTS...Aaron from the Il VCA when he was parting out his car before he bought the ACR. I did a corner weight/alignment at a Viper shop in IL, along with a 'bolt tighting down' and tranny and motor mounts. Car vibrates a lot at the track and it's good to recheck bolts.
My car is low, challenge on the streets I will tell you BUT...when I got on the track?
oh my.....
that first lap, I had the biggest grin on my face!
car was turning in like there was NO tomorrow! ....like a different car for sure.
just lowering it from the springs I felt a difference.
My car is low, challenge on the streets I will tell you BUT...when I got on the track?
oh my.....
that first lap, I had the biggest grin on my face!
car was turning in like there was NO tomorrow! ....like a different car for sure.
just lowering it from the springs I felt a difference.
Chuck 98 RT/10
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My street Viper has stock springs and shocks. Lowering it for the street just isn't a big deal for me.
My tracker is lowered 3/4 inch with Eibach and Penske. Generally if a car is lowered it will corner better. But there are a lot more variables for getting the best out of the suspension and it is a continuous journey.
My tracker is lowered 3/4 inch with Eibach and Penske. Generally if a car is lowered it will corner better. But there are a lot more variables for getting the best out of the suspension and it is a continuous journey.
vipergtsinnova
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I have a set ready for install. Wondering if anyone has done an install with pics? I have the compression tool that I bought sometime ago for another car but never used it.
Spring install seems pretty straight forward, but I am a visual person and like to see it before I do it.
Anyone?
Spring install seems pretty straight forward, but I am a visual person and like to see it before I do it.
Anyone?
AbsolutHank
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What year car do you have? Your screen name says GTS, but you're posting in the SRT section.
vipergtsinnova
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AbsolutHank
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No problem...you're better off starting a new thread in the Gen II section
Good luck!
Good luck!
Black Moon
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I would never try it with a spring compressor 'tool'. You need a manual or electric strut/spring machine that you will find in a shop. You have to compress the coils too much to use the tool available at Autozone or anywhere else. The real deal has three adjustable load points or hooks on the lower and upper.
Bottom line, have someone do it for $10-$20 each and don't risk breaking your hand or finger like I did several years ago.IMHO!
Bottom line, have someone do it for $10-$20 each and don't risk breaking your hand or finger like I did several years ago.IMHO!
ulllose
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Blackmoon is somewhat right.......... I did mine with the spring compression tool from autozone....it was hard compared to anything wall mounted or something more professional...lol But i was able to do it but put a good scratch in my stock shock becuase the tool wasnt hooking on right.
And one thing I didnt do was tighten the shock up after the weight was on the suspension, call me dumb but i couldnt figure out how to do that when the car was back on the ground and not on the lift.....anyone want to tell me??
And one thing I didnt do was tighten the shock up after the weight was on the suspension, call me dumb but i couldnt figure out how to do that when the car was back on the ground and not on the lift.....anyone want to tell me??
Black Moon
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Blackmoon is somewhat right.......... I did mine with the spring compression tool from autozone....it was hard compared to anything wall mounted or something more professional...lol But i was able to do it but put a good scratch in my stock shock becuase the tool wasnt hooking on right.
And one thing I didnt do was tighten the shock up after the weight was on the suspension, call me dumb but i couldnt figure out how to do that when the car was back on the ground and not on the lift.....anyone want to tell me??
You tighten it before you lower it. Shock bolts affect nothing. I'm impressed you got them off with the Autozone tool. You are braver than I. I had one of their tools break and the broken piece hit my knuckle breaking the bone. It still hurts every morning. Never again. I now have many mechanic friends with proper tools for what I can't or won't do.
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What kind of shop would you guys recommend doing this at?
ulllose
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Blackmoon......guess I'm still not getting it......if I leave it on lift the suspension is hanging free......so in order to put the weight back on the suspension I had to take it off lift....
Figured I'm going with motons soon so I'm not to worried about that I didn't tighten it correctly but still curious
Figured I'm going with motons soon so I'm not to worried about that I didn't tighten it correctly but still curious
AbsolutHank
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You can also just lower the lift to almost the ground, and then compress the suspension by jacking the lower control arm up with a floor jack, each wheel position at a time. It's essentially doing the same thing...
ulllose
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That helps Hank.......thanks.....
AbsolutHank
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AbsolutHank
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Unfortunately, there aren't really aftermarket replacement shocks available. You have to step up to a set of coilovers, which start at $3000 for KWs, and on up for Penske's and Motons
351carlo
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Re-reading this, I'm a bit confused. Don't the shock bolts go through a bushing from one side to the other? With a rubber isolator and then another bushing which holds that in, which on the OD is connected to the shaft? It's been a while since I did mine, but with this configuration, I can't see why anyone is concerned with torquing these bolts with weight on the car.
wow that's intense, so can you get away with eibachs on stock shocks? what about springs and caps, I like my cars to sit pretty low but won't be spending $3k on coilovers anytime soon
