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I was waiting for showing up here. That's the redneck style of lowering a F.?
 

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To me looks like Car had right of way and truck did a left turn in front of him. Even if he did cross line, I would think that if the truck had not pulled in front of him (doing a left turn) there would have been no accident. And it is backed up by the video the the guy said he could nt wait and pulled in front of me.
 

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At first I felt bad for the Ferrari guy. Then I heard him on the video, seems he was trying to blame the truck. Also his quote "Isn't is all of your favorite model?" Karma baby.
 

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Ugh Man.. Talk about a dimminished value claim... They are going to want to repait that because the car is so new and value is soo high... Probably a $40-$50k repair easy.. But still not even near total range. NOT good news for the owner
 

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Well with over 33 years in law enforcement and some of them in uniform covering traffic accidents let me give you may take on this. After reading all the comments and seeing the video and putting them together you have the F150 pulling out of the parking lot and trying to make a left onto the roadway. A car coming down the street (not the Ferrari) stopped or slowed to pull into the same lot while allowing the truck to ease out. The Ferrari is behind or comes up behind the car in the lane looking to go into the lot and decides to go around just as the truck goes to make the left out of the lot.
 

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Looks like a double yellow line. I thought it was illegal to make a left over a double yellow. In that case, I would say the truck is at fault, even if the Ferrari was passing another car.

Ferrari driver was out of line, but the truck hit the Ferrari and is an idiot for hitting a Ferrari.
 
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I'm guessing the fact that he was driving a F" had to influence his driving.
(as it probably would most of us) Most of the time we think go fast instead of safe when driving these type of vehicles. I know I do most of my spirited driving in my snake and tend to be more relaxed on my other vehicles. Bottom line is we should all be driving in a safe/defensive way regardless of what we drive.
I'm sure he'll be more careful from now on.
 

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My take, is the guy seems to be a ***** HOWEVER, I would be short with someone too if that was my viper under the truck and a bystandered was shoving a video camera in my face and asking me dumb questions that were none of his business (***?), so I'll give him a pass, that *****, such a beautiful car :(
 

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Another forum I frequent is also frequented by a firefighter who responded to that call. Here are some facts:

The Ferrari was traveling north bound, and sitting in traffic waiting to get into the left turn lane. There is a driveway on the east side of the road that is before the intersection where the Ferrari would turn left.

The traffic stopped short to leave a gap at the driveway so the truck could make a left turn and head southbound. There was no southbound traffic coming down through the intersection.

The truck driver looked north (to his right) to make sure the southbound lane was clear, and as the northbound traffic had created a gap for him to drive through while they waited for the light, he proceeded through across the northbound lanes and turned southbound.

At the same time, the Ferrari driver, looking at the southbound lanes and seeing no traffic, decided to jump over into the southbound lane to scoot up into the northbound left-turn lane. As he was proceeding forward, the truck turned left into the lane (not expecting there to be a north bound car there), and the impact occurred.

As for his comments...I think he handled himself VERY well....if some idiot was sticking a camera in my face asking me if my brand new Ferrari, sitting underneath a pickup, was my favorite model, I might have decked him. His comment, though a tad snarky, was a well placed "get out of my face."
 

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I was waiting for the truck to just back up and get his tire off the hood. Yeah, it *****, but like anything else, it's fixable.
 

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Both are to blame in my opinion. Either one of them could have prevented the accident.
 

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Another forum I frequent is also frequented by a firefighter who responded to that call. Here are some facts:

The Ferrari was traveling north bound, and sitting in traffic waiting to get into the left turn lane. There is a driveway on the east side of the road that is before the intersection where the Ferrari would turn left.

The traffic stopped short to leave a gap at the driveway so the truck could make a left turn and head southbound. There was no southbound traffic coming down through the intersection.

The truck driver looked north (to his right) to make sure the southbound lane was clear, and as the northbound traffic had created a gap for him to drive through while they waited for the light, he proceeded through across the northbound lanes and turned southbound.

At the same time, the Ferrari driver, looking at the southbound lanes and seeing no traffic, decided to jump over into the southbound lane to scoot up into the northbound left-turn lane. As he was proceeding forward, the truck turned left into the lane (not expecting there to be a north bound car there), and the impact occurred.

As for his comments...I think he handled himself VERY well....if some idiot was sticking a camera in my face asking me if my brand new Ferrari, sitting underneath a pickup, was my favorite model, I might have decked him. His comment, though a tad snarky, was a well placed "get out of my face."

Based on those facts, the F150 driver is at fault IF the Ferrari was in the northbound lane. If the Ferrari was going north in the south bound lane whether partially or fully, fault would be mutual and the insurance companies could fight it out.

I still don't get why police have to waste so much time and effort writing crash reports. Most all, aside from DUI and a couple of other exceptions, are civil in nature. Get a lawyer and plead your side.


As for his attitude... I get the impression most of you here would be guilty of the same demeanor if it were your viper underneath a pickup - AND it's not a far cry that you'd be blaming the other party just like this guy.

:usa:
 

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Based on those facts, the F150 driver is at fault IF the Ferrari was in the northbound lane. If the Ferrari was going north in the south bound lane whether partially or fully, fault would be mutual and the insurance companies could fight it out.

I still don't get why police have to waste so much time and effort writing crash reports. Most all, aside from DUI and a couple of other exceptions, are civil in nature. Get a lawyer and plead your side.


As for his attitude... I get the impression most of you here would be guilty of the same demeanor if it were your viper underneath a pickup - AND it's not a far cry that you'd be blaming the other party just like this guy.

:usa:

Based on the final resting position of the Ferrari, it looks like he was at least partly in the south-bound lane, possibly headed back into the northbound lane in response to the oncoming truck.

I don't think the truck driver would be at fault since he did nothing illegal, whereas the F-car driver was driving in the wrong lane. It's nothing most of us haven't done...taken advantage of unused pavement to get to a lane, but in this case, he got "got".

And absolutely, I would be acting just like that guy if someone came up to me after my $250k car had just been destroyed and asked me if it was my favorite car. I would likely have been less civil than him.
 

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I still don't get why police have to waste so much time and effort writing crash reports. Most all, aside from DUI and a couple of other exceptions, are civil in nature. Get a lawyer and plead your side.

You have more faith in our justice industry than most.
 

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Yep... that's going to affect the Autocheck score...

If the Ferrari was traveling north bound and he entered the southbound lane he is at fault plus anyone driving an exotic or performance car will be guilty until proven otherwise...

Not sure if this was the case here but...

I'm all for being courteous to other Driver's on the road but nothing drives me more crazy than watching some idiot over-reach to be courteous to 1 driver while screwing 15 cars behind him:crazy2:....
 

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Yep... I'm all for being courteous to other Driver's on the road but nothing drives me more crazy than watching some idiot over-reach to be courteous to 1 driver while screwing 15 cars behind him:crazy2:....

EXACTLY!!! There have been alot of wrecks just because someone decided to be TOO COURTEOUS. Next time we need to just let the other driver wait and we need to KEEP MOVING. :nono: :rolleyes:
 

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I've had people pull up short on me too many times. Most likely what happened to the Ferrari driver. And the right thing to do is go around them.

The car in front of him was at fault, like noted above, for trying to let someone go. People have a hard time seeing outside the small box that surrounds them.

The Ford driver made a left over a double yellow. He is at fault and I hope ends up paying for it. Not sure FL laws, but PA is a no fault state. I got rear-ended in my Viper while stopped at a stop light. It was blatent enough, they made her ensurance cover everything. Funny thing was she was high as a kite and I was questioned for Marajuana use! This case can go either way. And like said above, if it was your Viper, you'd be ripping that guys head off!
 

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I've had people pull up short on me too many times. Most likely what happened to the Ferrari driver. And the right thing to do is go around them.

The car in front of him was at fault, like noted above, for trying to let someone go. People have a hard time seeing outside the small box that surrounds them.

The Ford driver made a left over a double yellow. He is at fault and I hope ends up paying for it. Not sure FL laws, but PA is a no fault state. I got rear-ended in my Viper while stopped at a stop light. It was blatent enough, they made her ensurance cover everything. Funny thing was she was high as a kite and I was questioned for Marajuana use! This case can go either way. And like said above, if it was your Viper, you'd be ripping that guys head off!

Apparently, the northbound traffic was quite heavy and the F car driver had already sat through several light cycles, which is why he was trying to get up to the left turn lane. It sounded to me like the NB traffic didn't "stop short" the way you're describing. They just left a gap in the already stopped bumper-to-bumper traffic to let the pickup turn.

It's a crappy situation for everyone, for sure.
 
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