Radar Detector Question...

v10enomous said:

Which set up do you have ? Apparently NJ has no laws that prohibit the use of Laser interceptors.

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Laser interceptor is the brand name of the Lidar deflector.

I have a system in each of three cars and my p/u truck.

Worth ($aved) every penny!!!!!

Here are some videos from their website.

http://www.laser-interceptorusa.com/10701.html

SlateEd said:

Plum, any piece of RJ-11 (telephone cable) will do... Just cut off one end to length (about 10inches, but mock it up in the car to be sure) then take the exposed end, solder some pins on to the green and red wires and you're ready to plug in.

As for the OP I have an ****** 9500ix and just bought another for the jeep... Saved me many times! I don't think I know too much about where the cops are, how many, etc... I just stay at the limit if there is any KA band at all.

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Thanks. I've decided on the 9500ix after all. I know there are pro's and con's to all of the detectors that have been discussed, but it sounds like that ****** will fit my needs the best.

Now, let's all watch those speed limits.

v10enomous said:

Which set up do you have ? Apparently NJ has no laws that prohibit the use of Laser interceptors.

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I think most places don't have laws against laser. It's radar jammers that are a big no no. Because aircraft use radar for operating.

Someguy said:

I think most places don't have laws against laser. It's radar jammers that are a big no no. Because aircraft use radar for operating.

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I've found this to be true as well. Granted, a cop will figure it out pretty quickly if his laser is being jammed.

The ****** and LI models are not "jammers". "Jammers" of any kind are illegal because the actually send out a signal. These are passive and only re-direct the signal so it does not return to the gun for a reading.

Just wanted to clear up some possible confusion on why they are legal.

TowDawg said:

The ****** and LI models are not "jammers". "Jammers" of any kind are illegal because the actually send out a signal. These are passive and only re-direct the signal so it does not return to the gun for a reading.

Just wanted to clear up some possible confusion on why they are legal.

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Do they re-direct laser or radar??

Laser only.
I don't know of anything that re-directs radar. From my understanding, it works on laser because the beam is so narrow that they have to aim at pretty specific parts of the vehicle to get a reading. Because of that, you place the deflectors there. Since the beam is so narrow, it's pretty easy to send it in another direction so the gun can't can't get the return signal.
Radar is more broad and you would essentially have to have the whole car somehow deflect the return signal and deflect it farther away so the gun couldn't get a reading.

Don't forget guys, you can program the V1 to get rid of all those city false alarms. You have the ability to turn bands on/off. The V1 website has a section with the instructions.

TowDawg said:

Laser only.
I don't know of anything that re-directs radar. From my understanding, it works on laser because the beam is so narrow that they have to aim at pretty specific parts of the vehicle to get a reading. Because of that, you place the deflectors there. Since the beam is so narrow, it's pretty easy to send it in another direction so the gun can't can't get the return signal.
Radar is more broad and you would essentially have to have the whole car somehow deflect the return signal and deflect it farther away so the gun couldn't get a reading.

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Ya I was just curious since you were talking about it's legality. I don't know of anywhere that has laws against laser jamming/re-directing, or whatever you want to call it?? If the cop was a dick and figured out what you were doing though, he could probably give you a ticket for interfering with police work. I'm definitely going to look into something for blocking laser soon.

Atppilot said:

Don't forget guys, you can program the V1 to get rid of all those city false alarms. You have the ability to turn bands on/off. The V1 website has a section with the instructions.

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Only problem there is that pretty much every new automatic door, traffic signalling device, etc, all use K or KA band now. I rarely ever get any false X band hits anymore. I don't even use my V1 in town, eventually I'll just get a 9500 for in city use.

TowDawg said:

Laser only.
I don't know of anything that re-directs radar. From my understanding, it works on laser because the beam is so narrow that they have to aim at pretty specific parts of the vehicle to get a reading. Because of that, you place the deflectors there. Since the beam is so narrow, it's pretty easy to send it in another direction so the gun can't can't get the return signal.
Radar is more broad and you would essentially have to have the whole car somehow deflect the return signal and deflect it farther away so the gun couldn't get a reading.

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Sure there is...it's called stealth technology. Which would look way cool on a Viper...

We actually had some paint that the military uses to "absorb" radar signals when we were building a prototype for a project. That would be some fun stuff to paint the entire car in.
They kept that stuff in tight security and had someone observe exactly when and where it was used and then every bit of it was back under security.

My personal experience has been with one radar detector, The ****** 9500ix. Two years ago I was in a possition where I drew the last straw, recieved a speeding ticket the day after I recieved a notice from dept of motor vehicles "one more and you will loose your license". I was gilty of the offence but I had no choice but to contest it before the courts. The next day I bought the ****** and havent had a speeding ticket since. My court date came up a year and half later. (still had a valid drivers license all that time )This realy bugged my conscience, I was no doubt guilty, but my job depends on a valid license. Somehow I got off on two technicalities that where mistakes by the officer who gave me the ticket. Ever see a grown man do a flying sideways heel click on his way out of a court room, made the who court room laugh, even the judge. Anyways, I was looking at the Escourt 9500ci with shifters. Looking at the price, having to pull apart my car and the need to drill a few holes to install it, I just cant justify it when I know for a fact the 9500ix has been a fantastic detector. I have chosen to leave my two year old one in my service truck and purchased a new 9500ix

9500ix with ****** Live

I just saw this thread, but I'm using my iPhone app. I don't get to see the thread like I would on the computer but I have to chime in on this one.
I had the same issue this past Christmas when I was trying to choose which one to get, due to a ticket instance on my way to a Viper event this last year.
I found out the ****** had just released an new product called Live, it works with your existing radar detector in conjunction with your smart phone.
I have the 9500ix that has the built in GPS and auto tracks an blocks out false signals. I love that feature, the longer you drive around with it, the more powerful your detector become sand the less and less you ever hear it go off. I'm to the point now it only goes off when a threat is located. The range one this model is outstanding.
But now to the most important part is the LIVE aspect of it. It is a separate power chord you purchase which is fairly inexpensive which allows your detector to communicate with your smartphone via Bluetooth. A map is displayed I believe it's google maps they use which shows your location. Anytime the detector picks up a threat it auto reports location and time of report with a symbol on the map. And uploads it to an ****** server that tracks and relays this information to anyone else using the service.
It's real time, so when another person comes into the area you already know there is something there and the detector already informs you of the upcoming threat, but my favorite part is the over speed function. Along with the database it knows the speed limit of the road you are on and you can set how many MPH for an overspeed alert. Do you know how many roads I travel everyday that I had no idea what the speed was and am shocked to find out how fast I have been traveling thru there?
There are many other functions that I just have not even touched on. Please do yourself a favor and check out more info on it.
I see a lot of V1's being changed for ****** Live.
There are already several users in my area that show up all day from there reporting, it's funny to login from your phone without being connected to the detector and seeing what everyone is seeing out there. I don't work for ****** but man do they have an unbeatable product. I know you all will see what I'm saying with this. I have never felt so strong about something like this before either.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXzEduhbiYs&feature=youtube_gdata_player

That is a clip about what I'm talking about. See you reporting soon.

If most enthusiasts would use a 9500 with the LIVE connection we'd have a true weapon vs. laser traps... Even hours old data still gives you a heads-up on the roads that are currently being used for revenue generation.

I think I'll get one. 9500/LIVE users, does the detector-phone Bluetooth interface require that you disable hands-free Bluetooth connections (like UConnect)?

Rich

rw99 said:

If most enthusiasts would use a 9500 with the LIVE connection we'd have a true weapon vs. laser traps... Even hours old data still gives you a heads-up on the roads that are currently being used for revenue generation.

I think I'll get one. 9500/LIVE users, does the detector-phone Bluetooth interface require that you disable hands-free Bluetooth connections (like UConnect)?

Rich

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Well it's far fetched to expect everyone to go out and purchase a $500 radar detector. But most everyone now has an Iphone, and Trapster is a free Iphone app that does the exact same thing as this ****** Live. Only difference is you have to manually report a threat. If everyone would get on board with using that app, it wouldn't matter what detector everyone is using.

http://trapster.com/

Someguy said:

Well it's far fetched to expect everyone to go out and purchase a $500 radar detector. But most everyone now has an Iphone, and Trapster is a free Iphone app that does the exact same thing as this ****** Live. Only difference is you have to manually report a threat. If everyone would get on board with using that app, it wouldn't matter what detector everyone is using.

http://trapster.com/

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I got mine new for far less than that. Just shop around...

rw99 said:

If most enthusiasts would use a 9500 with the LIVE connection we'd have a true weapon vs. laser traps... Even hours old data still gives you a heads-up on the roads that are currently being used for revenue generation.

I think I'll get one. 9500/LIVE users, does the detector-phone Bluetooth interface require that you disable hands-free Bluetooth connections (like UConnect)?

Rich

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For those of us that tow in California, the speed limit is 55 mph , it ***** and it's almost impossible to go that slow on major Interstates without causing issues for other motorists. I got pulled over about 6 years ago while towing and luckily got off with just a warning. The CHP officer was only too happy to inform me that once you tow, even with a standard class C license the fines are that of a commercial license....which means nearly double the $$$ fines. After getting pulled over on that trip, I immediately invested in a radar detector and haven't had any issues since.

Now the CHP is really targeting the RV/towing motorist. A lot of these new toyhaulers are way over the GVWR of the truck and the motorists license qualifications. One of my customers got pulled over for going 57 in a 55 on the way to Pismo while towing a giant toyhauler. It wasn't even a normal CHP, but the commercial guy in the pickup that usually work the scales and checks out big rigs. He got nailed for being overweight (he should have known better, not safe for the rest of us) and got nailed for having an aftermarket flatbed with no sides (differenct class of truck at that point, wrong license and decals and some other BS). In the end, the bill (fines and penalties) came to around $1000.00 and the judge dropped the ridiculous speeding ticket.

Here is easy and safe money for the State. By targeting RV'ers, etc a law enforcement officer feels pretty safe knowing he's not going to get shot in the face by a guy in a $60k Duramax towing a $70k Weekend Warrior with a wife in the cab and three rugrats sitting in the back seat. Like I said, safe, easy money. I guess I'd feel safer pulling over an obvious RV'er rather than a 1985 Buick Donk on 24's with dark tinted windows and a sweet aroma wafting from the sunroof.

The 9500/Live is a great way to help know where the traps are....even if you are going 57 mph.

Cheers,
George

Another vote for Passport 9500ix. Had my first one in 1986, been with ****** every since. Better looking than the others too, footprint and profile are not as big IIRC.

ZYellow01RT said:

I got mine new for far less than that. Just shop around...

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Ya you can shop around for anything. I was just making it aware that there is something else available for free which does the same thing.

Someguy said:

Ya you can shop around for anything. I was just making it aware that there is something else available for free which does the same thing.

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Errrr...not quite the same.

The 9500ix does it automatically. No need to manually update any threat data as you would have to with trapster.

I guess I look at it as if I was getting a ticket! How much would one ticket's fallout effect overall, between court costs, fines, lawyer fees if needed, and not to mention the insurance rate hike for the next two years! $500 or whatever deal you can get is a drop on the bucket when looking at it overall.
I feel good about it, just this morning on the drive into base, was informed of a Lazer spot that was reported underneath a bridge tucked away, sure enough, he was right there wen I got there! Thats good enough for the price I paid anyday!
Thank you ******!!!
I had the distance set for 1 1/2 miles out, so I knew way in advance, that's something you can adjust as well.

ZYellow01RT said:

Errrr...not quite the same.

The 9500ix does it automatically. No need to manually update any threat data as you would have to with trapster.

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Yes I mentioned that in the original post about it. I'm not trying to undermine the ******, I'm just pointing out another tool that will help everyone with the more of us that get on board using it.

I'm a strong believer in you get what you pay for!