What a shame...

pumpgas · Dec 18, 2012

I can now (unfortunately)say I was right in my original assessment of the Gen V back in April when theyfirst unveiled the specs, saying that it was a huge letdown.

Minimal performance improvements over a Gen IV and the aesthetics and interior are certainly not worth $45K+ more...... as tested price was $141K....

How could they mess this up so bad? The car needed to (needs to) have a minimum of 700HP to remain at the top of the food chain of U.S. cars.

ACRucrazy · Dec 18, 2012

Welcome to 4 days ago.

Rizzo · Dec 18, 2012

ACRucrazy said:
Welcome to 4 days ago.

HAAAAAAAAAAA HAAAAAAAAAA. Funny.

Voodoo Rob · Dec 18, 2012

What....There's a Gen 5 Viper?

01sapphirebob · Dec 18, 2012

I don't think they messed anything up. Too much to type on a phone of how good they did. Ill respond with more later.

ACR steve · Dec 18, 2012

LOL some guys really should be in a Vette. Lets face it

DMan · Dec 18, 2012

Sorry, but it's amazing to me the effort some folks go through to make a negative post. Yes, you can test the Gen5 at $145K, you can also test it for $40K less than that and get the same #s if not better. This latest test is not something I'd be overly proud of, but not something to be negative about either.

Policy Limits · Dec 18, 2012

personally i'm grateful for the safety controls so i dont kill myself and get to drive another day. but apparently u can just take them off anyway if u feel suicidal

My ferrari and lambo friends all say its a "straight line" car but I think next season when these snakes are passing them with ease on the turns given the new suspension & handling, they'll be in for a surprise.

DMan · Dec 18, 2012

Policy Limits said:
My ferrari and lambo friends all say its a "straight line" car but I think next season when these snakes are passing them with ease on the turns given the new suspension & handling, they'll be in for a surprise.

Last gen viper still owns the Nurbergring Record, Vipers have been driving around F and L cars for years and years, let alone the straights, so there should be no surprise, they should be used to getting passed by Vipers.

viper GTS-R · Dec 18, 2012

Policy Limits said:
personally i'm grateful for the safety controls so i dont kill myself and get to drive another day. but apparently u can just take them off anyway if u feel suicidal My ferrari and lambo friends all say its a "straight line" car but I think next season when these snakes are passing them with ease on the turns given the new suspension & handling, they'll be in for a surprise.

Tell them they are full of ****. I've seen more italians doing straight lines and bonzai highway runs just as much as any car out there if not more. It's a straight line car to them cause their clutches have notorious history for breaking and god forbid one dare comes with a gated shifter. Only companies I know that now consider a manual as an option and not standard equipment. In fact I don't think any new Fcar or Lambo can be ordered with a manual. It's all a matter of who can shove more gears in a transmission.

--RS

vancouver-gts · Dec 18, 2012

Policy Limits said:
My ferrari and lambo friends all say its a "straight line" car

I seem to be able to hang around corners with my friends cars on trips, driving a dinosaur 99 GTS :drive:

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Mid engined NobleM400 that has superior handling and a 550 Maranello and I don't even have my car lowered for better handling .

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speedracervr4 · Dec 18, 2012

ACR steve said:
LOL some guys really should be in a Vette. Lets face it

^^This....

Indy · Dec 18, 2012

nice rides

pumpgas · Dec 18, 2012

Face it. EVERYONE expected better #'s than what that car put up. It has extremely weak performance for almost $150K. The top of the line GTS model should have had a blower and at least 750hp for that price point.

elanderholm · Dec 18, 2012

pumpgas said:
Face it. EVERYONE expected better #'s than what that car put up. It has extremely weak performance for almost $150K. The top of the line GTS model should have had a blower and at least 750hp for that price point.

at this point you know you aren't getting this in the car. So it's probably time to just stop talking and go away...

MoparBoyy · Dec 18, 2012

its funny, every post the MSRP keeps getting higher and higher. lol

ViperSmith · Dec 18, 2012

MoparBoyy said:
its funny, every post the MSRP keeps getting higher and higher. lol

He forgot to add in the cost of Stryker Red!

Allan · Dec 19, 2012

Does the Stryker Red car go faster? .........................like the previous generations of red Vipers?

VYPR BYT 94 · Dec 19, 2012

pumpgas said:
I can now (unfortunately)say I was right in my original assessment of the Gen V back in April when theyfirst unveiled the specs, saying that it was a huge letdown.

Minimal performance improvements over a Gen IV and the aesthetics and interior are certainly not worth $45K+ more...... as tested price was $141K....

How could they mess this up so bad? The car needed to (needs to) have a minimum of 700HP to remain at the top of the food chain of U.S. cars.

The only let down to me is the vast number of viper guys that are exposing themselves as not knowing much about building cars. Do you negative nellies realize that this car is different than any other - including past vipers? Natural aspiration is being pushed to limits that years ago were thought to be out of reach. I find it fascinating to watch to be honest.
I guess all the arm-chair engineers on here think they could totally re-design a car and have it dialed to perfection straight out of the box without any real world testing involved.

Man, you guys should all get together and show the world how to build a real car!

It's NEW people.
We haven't seen the following;
- a final production car (many test mules now)
- any true bench mark test results by a qualified driver who is intimately "familiar" with the limits of the car
- any type of spin-off models like acr, verts, etc since the the tweaks will still be made so reserve judgment
- any gen V's in the hands of gear-headed viper owners who will be doing their own thing and posting youtube videos with dyno's, 0-60, 1/4 miles, etc

The car is in its infancy state with a great foundation that is primed and ready for the final tweaks.

:panic:

Hey Chicken Little, the sky really isn't falling - trust me.

ViperSmith · Dec 19, 2012

VYPR BYT 94 said:
The only let down to me is the vast number of viper guys that are exposing themselves as not knowing much about building cars. Do you negative nellies realize that this car is different than any other - including past vipers? Natural aspiration is being pushed to limits that years ago were thought to be out of reach. I find it fascinating to watch to be honest.
I guess all the arm-chair engineers on here think they could totally re-design a car and have it dialed to perfection straight out of the box without any real world testing involved.
Man, you guys should all get together and show the world how to build a real car!

It's NEW people.
We haven't seen the following;
- a final production car (many test mules now)
- any true bench mark test results by a qualified driver who is intimately "familiar" with the limits of the car
- any type of spin-off models like acr, verts, etc since the the tweaks will still be made so reserve judgment
- any gen V's in the hands of gear-headed viper owners who will be doing their own thing and posting youtube videos with dyno's, 0-60, 1/4 miles, etc

The car is in its infancy state with a great foundation that is primed and ready for the final tweaks.

Hey Chicken Little, the sky really isn't falling - trust me.

your post makes me think of this

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Fangs10 · Dec 19, 2012

Well, they have to pay for the new Conner Avenue Assembly Plant right?

What a shame...

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