Porsche 918 Spyder breaks Ring record

Hemotoxic · Sep 11, 2013

I sure hope this means we see the ACR any day now, at oh say one-sixth the 918's price.

BlknBlu said:
I wonder if he farted in it.

Another reason why convertibles/spyders/spiders/targas are the best date cars.

SADVIPER · Sep 11, 2013

Nice looking car.
No pressure on the Viper to break any record if took others years to break our record. Take your time Viper.

FLL-B/W-GTS · Sep 11, 2013

Having 3 Vipers and now a Porsche 911 Turbo S, I will tell you, the Porsche Cars are at a whole different level than Vipers in every way. That is why you have 140,000.00 Vipers sitting in dealer showrooms all over the country. SRT went to the Porsche level money, but the Gen.5 does not perform/quality at that level and the Porsche dealer experience is 1st Class..

Hope SRT does some big improvements to the Gen.5 in reference the HP,Launch Control and the bad drone in the car for 2014,if not,no one will be buying those either..

ACRucrazy · Sep 11, 2013

FLL-B/W-GTS said:
Hope SRT does some big improvements to the Gen.5 in reference the HP,Launch Control and the bad drone in the car for 2014,if not,no one will be buying those either..

Without the big increase in price.

SnakeBitten · Sep 11, 2013

FLL-B/W-GTS said:
Having 3 Vipers and now a Porsche 911 Turbo S, I will tell you, the Porsche Cars are at a whole different level than Vipers in every way. That is why you have 140,000.00 Vipers sitting in dealer showrooms all over the country. SRT went to the Porsche level money, but the Gen.5 does not perform/quality at that level and the Porsche dealer experience is 1st Class..

Hope SRT does some big improvements to the Gen.5 in reference the HP,Launch Control and the bad drone in the car for 2014,if not,no one will be buying those either..

That may be a tall order considering what appears to be the current mentality and R&D dollars at SRT. With all thats wrong with SRT right now expecting those changes in just a year is a pipe dream imho. The Gen 6 "maybe" but I just dont see the Gen 5 getting on Porsches overall level of refinement. To me that would be unfair to expect that with such a comparatively small budget and maybe even a lack of desire/knowhow within to do so.

I love the car for what it is right now but its got a good way to go before it can be seriously mentioned "overall" with the other big names in anything other than performance. The suspension, power delivery[LC], braking and handling has to be as refined as its world class interior and Stryker paint if SRT truly wants to be taken seriously at 150k+. Lets not forget getting the ordering process, dealer networks, QC etc being truly refined as well. Lots to do at SRT internally before they can really accomplish all that with the Viper program imho.

SRTviper · Sep 11, 2013

FLL-B/W-GTS said:
Having 3 Vipers and now a Porsche 911 Turbo S, I will tell you, the Porsche Cars are at a whole different level than Vipers in every way. That is why you have 140,000.00 Vipers sitting in dealer showrooms all over the country. SRT went to the Porsche level money, but the Gen.5 does not perform/quality at that level and the Porsche dealer experience is 1st Class..

Hope SRT does some big improvements to the Gen.5 in reference the HP,Launch Control and the bad drone in the car for 2014,if not,no one will be buying those either..

No one can get a brand new turbo S or turbo at 135 or 140k. You MAY be able to get a no options nothing base turbo with NOTHING added on but how many people do that? I don't think viper is in the porsche price level. Plus I actually think the sepia leguna leather in the viper is better than the beige leather porsche has to offer. I think the steering wheel is far better as well. The seats are definitely far better. The looks are also better. Porsche only performs better and is more comfortable because it is made to be an every day sports car hence the huge price difference. Also you have to remember with the porsche you are getting the same stuff as a boxter S or a base 911 in that turbo. The 40k premium for the turbo is only for 100 more hp. And the 80k premium for the S is for 40 more over the regular turbo. 0-60 in 3 or 0-60 in 2.8. Does it really matter that much?

The viper is attempting and moving towards being a DD sports car. But it's not there yet. It is more on par with a zr1 but with a better interior. But at a higher price point it needs things like an MR system, all aluminum chassis, and CC brakes. If it had these 3 things and they still want 130k for the GTS find take it happily. But I'm sure later down the road hopefully we will see things like this. It is silly though to compare this car to a turbo S.

Lespauldude · Sep 11, 2013

I reached out to Dominik Farnbacher for his thoughts on this new record.

"Dom,

You have to admit, 6:57 at The Ring is quite fast. Time for the Viper (and Ralph) to step up!!"

"Dominik Farnbacher - "Yeah, that is fast. Congrats to Porsche and Marc Lieb. We will work on something to get it done in the Future"

SRT has some considerable work to do to get down to this time..................

ACRucrazy · Sep 11, 2013

I don't think it's out of reach IMO.
ACR-X 7:03

A legit Gen V ACR could break 7 IMO.

Black Adder · Sep 11, 2013

I thought there were 535 gen 4 ACR's made. Dont know how many each of the three years

ACRucrazy · Sep 11, 2013

635 Gen IV ACRs total between 08-10, more rare than the 918 (quantity) of the 918s to be produced.

Black Adder · Sep 11, 2013

I thought there were 535 gen 4 ACR's made. Dont know how many each of the three years

ACRucrazy · Sep 11, 2013

2008-179
2009-251
2010-205
-----------
Total-635
+
ACR-X-50

EDIT: According to my Feb 2011 Viper Mag

020 - 2010 ACR Roadsters
060 - Regular ACRs
125 - Special Edition ACRs
-------
205 - 2010 ACR Coupes

Some have mentioned there may or may not be some errors in those numbers, but it should be a pretty close representation of what was made.

VENOM V · Sep 11, 2013

ACRucrazy said:
I don't think it's out of reach IMO.
ACR-X 7:03

A legit Gen V ACR could break 7 IMO.

I agree. It's not out of the question at all. Although I like that it will be a challenge. This will push Ralph and team to make the Gen V ACR even better. Competition is healthy. Don't be surprised if the Corvette guys bring something legitimate to the table as well with their to-be-designed C7 high performance model.

ACRucrazy · Sep 11, 2013

I just watched the video again and noted the time on Youtube.
I am not sure where the lap should start and stop at at the ring, but according to the video shown, the time on the video where he crosses a line @ the 1:07 mark and crosses it again, its at about the 8:09 mark. (not very accurate I know, but just going by what I saw on the vid)

So from point to point, in that video it was about 7:02? Can anyone else comment?
(not that I don't think the Porsche set the new record, just something I noticed in the video)

BigDawg · Sep 11, 2013

It's a supercar guys, what do you expect? It's about time they caught up with the exotics and sports cars whooping their asses. Good for the 918. Also, don't forget that this is Porsche's home turf, imagine the times they could get out of even a stock Gen V if they spent 2 years tuning for and lapping the ring.

Grab a 918 off the shelf, give it to a professional driver, and give him 2 days to turn the best time he can. Do the same for the GTR, ZR1, GT2 RS, P1, etc. Then see how they do. I'm not knocking those cars but it's not unreasonable to think there's a huge advantage when you spend that much time there. I also wouldn't don't the factories sending ringers.

I'm willing to bet equal time and effort spent on a ring record and the 2010 ACR would be at or around the 7 minute mark.

Boxer12 · Sep 12, 2013

Time for a TT version ACR?

Boxer12 · Sep 12, 2013

Time for a TT version ACR? Or DCT?

ACRucrazy · Sep 12, 2013

Nope. A $110,000 640 HP ACR-X with TONNNS of downforce and no active aero did 7:03

Start there. What will it take to get the Gen V there and improve on that. Viper should go blow this record out of the water for well under $200,000

Dale.Volz · Sep 12, 2013

v10enomous said:
A Hybrid car owns the Ring record. It's a new world folks

Hybrid power dominates Le Mans, is the standard in F1, and is a component of all the new super cars. I continue to wonder when all the Prius/hybrid haters on this forum will finally cease their snarky comments, acknowledge the benefits of 21st century automotive technology, and join the rest of us in the new world.

ACRucrazy · Sep 12, 2013

Some specs I just learned about the 918

Drive

Combined system Maximum system power over 887 hp at 8500 rpm
Maximum system torque of 944 lb.-ft. (utilizing 7th gear)
Maximum system torque over 590 lb.-ft. from 800 rpm to 5,000 rpm
Combustion engine V8 high-revving engine with a displacement of 4.6 L
Maximum power output of 608 hp at 8700 rpm
Maximum torque over 398 lb.-ft. at 6500 rpm
Maximum engine speed 9150 rpm
Exhaust system with top pipes
Electric drive Two permanent magnet AC synchronous motors
Maximum combined (mechanical) power output of 286 hp
Front: Maximum power output over 129 hp, maximum torque over 154 lb.-ft.
Rear: Maximum power output over 156 hp, maximum torque over 276 lb.-ft.
Battery Liquid-cooled high-performance lithium-ion hybrid battery
Energy content 6.8 kWh with maximum power output of over 230 kW
On-board charger
Porsche Universal Charger (AC)
Performance

Top Track speed Combined 213 mph (918 Spyder with Weissach package: 214 mph)
Electric-only 93 mph
Acceleration 0–60 mph in 2.7 secs
0–124 mph in 7.8 secs (918 Spyder with Weissach package: 7.7 secs)
0–186 mph in 23.0 secs (918 Spyder with Weissach package: 22.0 secs)
Overtaking acceleration 49-74 mph in 1.4 secs
62-124 mph in 5.0 secs (918 Spyder with Weissach package: 4.9 secs)
Electric only acceleration 0–37 mph in 3.3 secs (918 Spyder with Weissach package: 3.2 secs)
0–60 mph in 6.9 secs (918 Spyder with Weissach package: 6.8 secs)
Fuel consumption*/range/efficiency class

Fuel consumption (combined) 3.3 l/100 km* (918 Spyder with Weissach package 3.0 l/100 km*)
CO2 emissions (combined) 79 g/km* (918 Spyder with Weissach package 70 g/km*)
Electricity consumption 12.5 kWh/100 km* (918 Spyder with Weissach package 13.0 kWh/100 km*)
All-electric range Up to 19 miles*
Efficiency class (Germany/Switzerland) A+/A+
Weight

DIN 3692 lbs. (918 Spyder with Weissach package: 3602 lbs.)
In accordance with EC directive* 3858 lbs. (918 Spyder with Weissach package: 3767 lbs.)
Permissible gross weight 4189 lbs.
Payload 496 lbs. (918 Spyder with Weissach package: 587 lbs.)

-This is a 3600-3700 pound car :omg:

-The 944 ft pounds is only in 7th gear apparently
-20" Front and 21" rears
-Optional Magnesium wheels save 33 pounds
-Electormechanical rear axle steering, turns in opposite direction of front at low speeds and same at high speeds
-The monocoque is made from CFRP (you know, that "fake" carbon fiber LOL)
-Seats are also CFRP
-LED Headlights
-For legal reasons, the MARTINI RACING design package is not available in some countries. We would also like to point out that importing a vehicle with Martini Racing design or moving a vehicle with Martini Racing design on public roads in these countries could have legal consequences. :rolaugh:

-Finally, I just built my own
Base price: $929,000
Price for Equipment: $122,680
Destination Charge: $950
Total Price:*
$1,052,630 :omg:

MtnBiker · Sep 13, 2013

Dale.Volz said:
Hybrid power dominates Le Mans, is the standard in F1, and is a component of all the new super cars. I continue to wonder when all the Prius/hybrid haters on this forum will finally cease their snarky comments, acknowledge the benefits of 21st century automotive technology, and join the rest of us in the new world.

Is that what the 2005 Commemorative Edition is then? How about the 1996 GTS Track Toy? Pfft!

TexasTorred · Sep 14, 2013

Amazing what a car costing 5-6X as much as a Viper can do. Nice job Porsche.

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