2015 Z06 specs leaked 620hp/650tq

bushido · Jan 13, 2014

VENOM V said:
A sensor in the transmission busted in the Ferrari. The car is at the dealership in 1000 pieces, tranny ripped apart. I think the Vette is what he should end up with, and he's always loved them as much as I've loved Vipers.

Agree with you, a 1:32 is within reach for this new Z06. I'm hoping for Ralph to answer with Trofeo R's for the Viper so we could perhaps break into the 1:32s as well. Exciting time to be a car guy!

That *****. Good thing the warranty is going to take care of it..

ViperSmith · Jan 13, 2014

ViperJon said:
Car and Driver:
Looks like pricing in line with current C6 Z06 and optioned up from there.

How good is the Z06 shaping up to be? We’re told it shattered the course record at GM’s Milford Road Course on its first time on the track. Let us remind you that almost no development or tuning work had been done to the car at that point—Chevy simply bolted the pieces together and went for a lap time. Think what it could do after a year of fine-tuning. Now for the best part: All of this C7.R-for-the-street business won’t cost you any more than the old Z06. As Tadge Juechter himself put it—in between explaining the aerodynamic value added by the tiny spats ahead of each front wheel and detailing how the C7.R’s three-percent fuel-efficiency bump (thanks to direct injection) will save one pit stop over a 24-hour race—“if you could afford the old Z06, you’ll be able to afford the new Z06.”

Which I find very impressive, price wise. I was looking at $95 base, but kudos to Chevy.

bushido · Jan 13, 2014

ViperJon said:
Car and Driver:
Looks like pricing in line with current C6 Z06 and optioned up from there.

How good is the Z06 shaping up to be? We’re told it shattered the course record at GM’s Milford Road Course on its first time on the track. Let us remind you that almost no development or tuning work had been done to the car at that point—Chevy simply bolted the pieces together and went for a lap time. Think what it could do after a year of fine-tuning. Now for the best part: All of this C7.R-for-the-street business won’t cost you any more than the old Z06. As Tadge Juechter himself put it—in between explaining the aerodynamic value added by the tiny spats ahead of each front wheel and detailing how the C7.R’s three-percent fuel-efficiency bump (thanks to direct injection) will save one pit stop over a 24-hour race—“if you could afford the old Z06, you’ll be able to afford the new Z06.”

The sticker on my 2010 Z06 3LZ was around $75k . That's good to know.. :2tu:

TrackAire · Jan 13, 2014

VENOM V said:
When you get it, I call shotgun at Seca!

That is if Mike doesn't beat you to it. His Ferrari is broken after 1 track day. He'd buy a Viper if the clutch didn't aggravate his knee. I'm trying to talk Mike into considering this car, it will be mean on the track no question.

Crap!!....what let go on the 458? Lets hope it's covered under warranty.

George

VENOM V · Jan 13, 2014

TrackAire said:
Crap!!....what let go on the 458? Lets hope it's covered under warranty.

George

Hi George,

Just a sensor in the tranny but they have to dissassemble the whole back of the car, then dissassemble the tranny to get to it. Open heart surgery, LOL. Luckily they're covering it under warranty. Mike had a moment of clarity- he is now realizing that when his 2 year warranty is up he won't want to pay the repair bills due to tracking wear / tear. I tried to encourage him to get something less costly like a Mustang or Camaro as a track beast, but he needs a high perf auto, which neither have. So maybe the Z06 is the ticket for him. Either that or he may get another Porsche Cup Car and trailer it, as he had it the past. I know you're leaning towards a Panoz or similar, you guys should talk.

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VENOM V · Jan 13, 2014

The adjustable rear spoiler is a great idea- it will pay huge dividends at the track.

Someone mentioned something about 650 pounds of downforce, anyone know?

TrackAire · Jan 13, 2014

Bobpantax said:
Just as I thought. The pre release photos were shopped depictions. I will be surprised if they stay with the front aero as is in the production version option. It looks cheap and a bit strange. It appears to be all one piece from the rear of the front wheel wells forward. The rear spoiler looks like it was made of legos.

The TA design is heads and shoulders above this car.

Of the tech features announced, the tranny sounds interesting.

But I still think the competition between Viper and Vette is great. We all benefit from it.

PS. I just noticed the post above. Good point.

Bob,
That is the actual track kit that the top end Z06 will come with. The front splitter and side vertical dams with Gurney wheel well extensions might not even matter at the drag strip from a increased drag point of view. On the rear, IMO SRT should have had a center plexiglass piece that is adjustable for more downforce when needed yet you can still see traffic behind you. Watch the video, it is such a simple and functional design. The Z06 will also have a larger hood vent, scoops on the rear quarter inlets for more air flow and the bottom door edge aero is very cool. Larger grill opening with larger brake air inlets means they spent a lot of time in the wind tunnel. The car is also much wider with a wider, in both track and body.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3cc059rg1A#t=315

I'm most excited about the 8 speed transmission. Hopefully it works great and can hold up to track sessions in the heat....but in typical GM fashion it will take about 18 months of "revisions" to make it track worthy.

Is the TA better looking and more exclusive, yes. Is it a higher performing vehicle...who knows?

To help slow down the Vette excitement, lets hope GM hires the same people that prepped the Gen 5's for all the magazine tests. If not, all you're going to hear about for the next 12 months is how fast and how many records this new, easy to drive Vette produces.

Cheers,
George

Texas1 · Jan 13, 2014

Looks like a formidable opponent...I guess time will tell...I still prefer my Gen V...

steve e · Jan 13, 2014

Wow, it seems like most of you run your Vipers on the track, and know how to drive, and kick butt. Am I the only guy here who has the occasional stop light to stop light run and every now and then a 40mph roll or 20mph roll to about 100mph. Yea I know its wrong, but it sometimes happens, and thats my point, the Viper was all most unbeatable. Now there is GT-rs, Mustangs with 662hp, super charged Corvettes, BMWs,Audis, ect that can all run with or beat the Viper. SRT needs a supercharged option on the V10 for us street guys who do not give a rats ass about heat soak. I take my Viper out on sunny sundays for a one hour ride.I feel like a fool when I get beat, and I yell back and say my car is faster at the Ring, if I see you there your toast. :drive:

Zee · Jan 13, 2014

c7 z06 with Z07 package will be under 100k - geezes

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Torquemonster · Jan 13, 2014

Endeka said:
The Z51 is already putting down Near-Ferrari numbers on test tracks and the skid pad, and that's down on this thing by hundreds of hp and ft/lbs. Although the car isn't far beyond the ZR1 in numbers, with the updated engine and chassis work they did on the C7, I expect this thing to smoke the ZR1 and every viper out there in ANY driving environment. I'd look for a best quarter time below 10.5 and maybe even a 0-60 in the very high 2's. The Current ZR1 is already faster than an LFA or 458. Expect this to be striking deep into LaFerrari/P1/918 territory.

The Viper will always, always be more special than the Z06. But I hope for a great ACR very soon, because for a long time, the Viper wasn't just special because it was rare, it was special because it was the best. The TA is a great car, and an incredible bargain, but I'd be slack-jawed with astonishment if it can hang with this car on the track. I hope an ACR gets revealed in 2014.

The C7 ZO6 will be traction limited based upon wheel size and tire profiles. Good luck laying down a 10.5 1/4 on thin walled 20" tires. Track and strip times would improve when car OEM's lose this silly Hot Wheels obsession with bigger and bigger brakes and wheels. Look at the race C7.R and any other serious race car - they all have thicker tires - you need sidewall for better traction, look at how high profile F1 is.... and if a 13" brake can lock, adding a 16" one won't stop any quicker. It's about looks, but personally for performance I'd want 18" wheels on either a Viper or the ZO6 - with the right tire, brake and pad combo it'd be quicker everywhere.

I also agree with the comments that SRT are likely sitting back and smiling knowing their ACR will bring game to the table now they know what they're gunning for.

PDCjonny · Jan 13, 2014

So you guys think that SRT is developing an all new motor that has to be certified for use in an upcoming ACR that will maybe sell a couple hundred units?
I don't see how that could be financially feasible, considering the "shoe string" budget for the Gen 5 development.

Torquemonster · Jan 13, 2014

ViperJon said:
So you guys think that SRT is developing an all new motor that has to be certified for use in an upcoming ACR that will maybe sell a couple hundred units?
I don't see how that could be financially feasible, considering the "shoe string" budget for the Gen 5 development.

No new motor needed. Adding 40-60hp to the V10 could be done off the top of any SRT techs head and in less than a days work, including tuning. 800hp is already available to them for drag racing. The real budget would be in fine tuning for production, but no biggie. It might cost more in gas guzzler tax, but I think folk would pay it to get a record beating track car.

ViperSmith · Jan 13, 2014

ViperJon said:
So you guys think that SRT is developing an all new motor that has to be certified for use in an upcoming ACR that will maybe sell a couple hundred units?
I don't see how that could be financially feasible, considering the "shoe string" budget for the Gen 5 development.

If RG wants to claim the ACR will be "radical" he needs to go bigger than more HP.

Needs KERS.

Though, the viper purists would lose their ****.

v10viperbox · Jan 13, 2014

Torquemonster said:
No new motor needed. Adding 40-60hp to the V10 could be done off the top of any SRT techs head and in less than a days work, including tuning. 800hp is already available to them for drag racing. The real budget would be in fine tuning for production, but no biggie. It might cost more in gas guzzler tax, but I think folk would pay it to get a record beating track car.

Recertification of the motor is where the cost is. Tuning and inhouse work at least on something as low production as the ACR could be is negligible.

TonyCool · Jan 13, 2014

I for one like a lot what the new Z06 brings to the table. Having 620+hp and 635 lb/ft of torque and being faster at the track than the 2013 ZR1 is very impressive. I think it's awesome it comes with a carbon fiber removable roof. It really sounds like a no compromises car. I'm sure it's the best corvette ever.

I can't wait to see how the SRT team responds. There was a time where the corvette wouldn't beat any viper (not the SRT let alone an ACR) in any dimension other than price. This time around I'm sure the new Z is a good bit faster than any Gen5 produced right now including the TA and it's going to be considerably cheaper to buy and maintain. And with the new 8 speed automatic and a targa roof it's opened to a whole new market.

It's going to be really though on SRT to compete against this car and I'm not convinced a ZR1 won't be released at some point during the C7 lifespan. SRT better bring their best game or the Gen5 could very well be the very last generation of our beloved Viper brand.

Having said that given the choice I would take a 2010 ACR over the new 2015 Z any day but I'm afraid not many people would make the same choice. It might be slower but that car is and will always be awesome in my book. The Gen5 ACR better be able not to beat the new Z but to destroy it completely if it's going to still a portion of their market.

ViperSmith · Jan 13, 2014

TonyCool said:
I for one like a lot what the new Z06 brings to the table. Having 620+hp and 635 lb/ft of torque and being faster at the track than the 2013 ZR1 is very impressive. I think it's awesome it comes with a carbon fiber removable roof. It really sounds like a no compromises car. I'm sure it's the best corvette ever.

I can't wait to see how the SRT team responds. There was a time where the corvette wouldn't beat any viper (not the SRT let alone an ACR) in any dimension other than price. This time around I'm sure the new Z is a good bit faster than any Gen5 produced right now including the TA and it's going to be considerably cheaper to buy and maintain. And with the new 8 speed automatic and a targa roof it's opened to a whole new market.

It's going to be really though on SRT to compete against this car and I'm not convinced a ZR1 won't be released at some point during the C7 lifespan. SRT better bring their best game or the Gen5 could very well be the very last generation of our beloved Viper brand.

Having said that given the choice I would take a 2010 ACR over the new 2015 Z any day but I'm afraid not many people would make the same choice. It might be slower but that car is and will always be awesome in my book. The Gen5 ACR better be able not to beat the new Z but to destroy it completely if it's going to still a portion of their market.

I'd be curious to know which ZR1 it was - is is the one with the new tires on it that did well at Laguna? If it is the one with the old rubber, I think SRT will be fine.

But, I hope it gets SRT in gear to crank out the ACR - come on Ralph!

Really what SRT needs is better tires. i don't think they could catch the TA/GTS/SRT with comparable tires.

But the Z06 will be a monster.

ulllose · Jan 13, 2014

I for one is very impressed with performance/looks/ and what the price is suggested to be. What is also impressive is by the time this car hits customer's driveways there will be after market parts waiting to be bolted on to top the already impressive stock performance numbers! I would buy one if I have the extra coin when it comes to actually getting them. Will see what happens

FLL-B/W-GTS · Jan 13, 2014

With the performance numbers the new Z06 will produce,removable top,inexpensive price and a 8 speed super fast automatic transmission ,GM will sell all the Z06s they can produce for many,many years.If SRT does not add some of these new features ,very few will buy a new Viper..Viper will be done....Viper lovers,spin it as you wish,that is just the way it will be...

Endeka · Jan 14, 2014

Ummm, the C7 Z51 is 18th fastest at Laguna Seca with Randy Pobst behind the wheel, 4.66 seconds slower per lap than the Viper TA. Let's keep it real here.

That's the lowest class of Corvette, the Z51 is a jazzed up base model. It's not even a Grand sport. If that car was remotely close to the Viper, Viper wouldn't be in trouble, it'd be extinct. The skidpad G's the C7 put down were absolutely amazing, like, unheard of, for car in the $60,000 range. The Z06 has a better version of that same chassis. With a big downforce package and cup tires, those skid-pad numbers won't be high, they'll be record-setting for a production car.

On the other hand I expect great things on the track with the C7 Z06, it may even beat the Gen V TA and ZR1. But no way it will smoke them.

As more details emerge, I'm getting more entrenched in my previous opinion. I just saw that the 8-speed auto shifts faster than the Porsche Doppelkupplung transmission. Have you ever driven a 911 Turbo S PDK? That'll change the way you view fast launches on the street.

Viper needs to go ******** with the ACR to get the game back in their court. I know they can do it. I hope they will.

1badacr · Jan 14, 2014

ViperJon said:
So you guys think that SRT is developing an all new motor that has to be certified for use in an upcoming ACR that will maybe sell a couple hundred units?
I don't see how that could be financially feasible, considering the "shoe string" budget for the Gen 5 development.

I agree ,delaers can't get rid of gen 5 vipers at 15g's off MSRP, the average cost do the car is 130 grand, some are in the 140's how is SRT going to produce an ACR? The price is already ridiculous , what will an ACR be? 180 grand? , it's not going to happen, people who think the gen 5 viper has any prayer at beating this new Z06 is just kidding themselfs.

GM is going to price a fully optioned Z at under 100k, that mean a bas will be what the last base z was 75 grand, I love the viper and always will but its time is over, the z is going to waste it on all performance levels! I can't believe people are ignoring the fact that vipers are sitting and collecting dust in dealerships all over .

Bobpantax · Jan 14, 2014

Everyone should watch the two videos posted. In each Vett engineers state that they were trying to "approach" the performance of the ZR1. If their comments were scripted and the words chosen carefully, I think we need to wait for the testing before assuming that this car equals or betters the performance of the ZR1. Also, they state that the new blower is smaller by volume but rotates at a much higher speed. That may not be good for modification. A pulley change may not be possible. There are limits to how fast a spin can be tolerated. Engineers out there please post your thoughts. I was under the impression that more volume with a 6.2 liter V8 was better.

FLL-B/W-GTS · Jan 14, 2014

If that new Z06 shifts any were as fast and as violent(every time) as a Porsche 911 Turbo S (Have 14 TS) it will ,as said set a whole new level for street car performance...Esp.cars in the 100,000.00 range....

Bobpantax · Jan 14, 2014

If it hooks. Your Turbo is all wheel drive.

Boxer12 · Jan 14, 2014

All of you who think SRT doesn't have the budget to compete, let's not overstate the task...aggressive aero package, lose more weight (aluminum frame?), dry sump, add PSC or Trofeo R tires, 7 speed or DCT, and Brembo carbon ceramic rotors on the ACR and it's done. That won't take a lot of R& D to accomplish. Ralph, build our Viper ACR!

VENOM V · Jan 14, 2014

Boxer12 said:
All of you who think SRT doesn't have the budget to compete, let's not overstate the task...aggressive aero package, lose more weight (aluminum frame?), dry sump, add PSC or Trofeo R tires, 7 speed or DCT, and Brembo carbon ceramic rotors on the ACR and it's done. That won't take a lot of R& D to accomplish. Ralph, build our Viper ACR!

Bulls eye, Boxer. Funny how this thread turned out pretty much the way I thought it would. The sky is falling crowd has just come out to play, LOL.

VENOM V · Jan 14, 2014

Endeka said:
That's the lowest class of Corvette, the Z51 is a jazzed up base model. It's not even a Grand sport. If that car was remotely close to the Viper, Viper wouldn't be in trouble, it'd be extinct. The skidpad G's the C7 put down were absolutely amazing, like, unheard of, for car in the $60,000 range. The Z06 has a better version of that same chassis. With a big downforce package and cup tires, those skid-pad numbers won't be high, they'll be record-setting for a production car.

As more details emerge, I'm getting more entrenched in my previous opinion. I just saw that the 8-speed auto shifts faster than the Porsche Doppelkupplung transmission. Have you ever driven a 911 Turbo S PDK? That'll change the way you view fast launches on the street.

Viper needs to go ******** with the ACR to get the game back in their court. I know they can do it. I hope they will.

No I haven't driven a 911 Turbo S PDK on the street, but I've lapped them a number of times on the road course.

Enjoy your entrenchment. Bench racing doesn't impress me, fast lap times do.

I'm impressed with the C7 Z06, good to have a formidable opponent to spar with. Looking forward to seeing what it can do on the track.

bushido · Jan 14, 2014

Boxer12 said:
All of you who think SRT doesn't have the budget to compete, let's not overstate the task...aggressive aero package, lose more weight (aluminum frame?), dry sump, add PSC or Trofeo R tires, 7 speed or DCT, and Brembo carbon ceramic rotors on the ACR and it's done. That won't take a lot of R& D to accomplish. Ralph, build our Viper ACR!

All of those things you mentioned is basically building a completely new car from the ground up. Just the dry sump alone would call for the engine to be re-certified because it would make more power. The re-certification costs a lot of money.. An aluminum frame would need a complete re-design, engineering, crash testing, etc.etc A DCT, or 7 speed auto is another big obstacle to tackle.. Last FIAT now owns Chrysler 100%. So it would probably not be their interest to go on and fight this war with Corvette. They probably want to focus on selling more Arbaths/ FIAT cars..

What I see realistically happening is SRT putting stickier tires, bigger brakes, full 2 way adjustable coilover shocks, big aero,and finding areas to lighten the existing frame/car on the next ACR..

Now I'm a big Viper fan here,( I got a Gen V, Gen 4 ACR, and my prized 97 GTS) and want to see the Viper be on top too..

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