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    Monday we find out who is faster at Laguna Seca, ZR1 or Gen V

    Wow...just...wow.
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    Viper vs. GT3 RS Cup car at the Ring

    Apologies if this has been posted before but exceptional driving by both:
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    Pics Of My Crashed Viper

    Wanted, Glad to hear you walked away. That’s all that matters. Couple of things about this crash struck me: Skill plays a big, big factor here. You retained the presence of mind to keep fighting the skid and turned the wheel just enough that you ended up striking the pole with the heaviest...
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    Paddle Shift

    Great question, well put. The obvious answer in that situation would be that failure is not an option. The only catch with your question is that it is extremely unlikely that the Viper will make it to 2018. Its development budget is about $100mm and it consistently loses money. Sales of the...
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    Paddle Shift

    Your point necessarily assumes, incorrectly, that a missed shift is the only, important or even significant thing that can slow you down or make you fast in a race. On the contrary, consistently choosing the right line and timing your braking distances alone represent nearly infinite key and...
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    Paddle Shift

    Well put. I remain amused and astonished at the misconceptions as regards the technology and its application. First, no technology now employed in the automotive arena can or will make you a better driver. Not paddle shifters, not ABS, not traction/stability control. Nothing The only...
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    Viper and Z06 ---- side by side

    Riwracer and SW, outstanding garages. If you both had a Ford GT they would be perfect. Great stuff and great pictures :2tu: .
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    Viper in danger...

    Jon, Many thanks. You beat me to it. I am amazed that the fundamental and significant difference between build (irrelevant) and sales (the only thing that pays the bills) has to be explained to anyone. Memo to SRT10, my sales numbers were from DCX's own website (go to the IR section). You...
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    Viper in danger...

    chorps, You are more correct than I think even you realize. For the Viper, calendar 2003 - 2004 saw sales down an astonishing 15% (2,103 - 1,782 units). Dodge's hope that sales would rebound in 2005 ended yesterday when released sales figures showed that though there was a month-to-month jump...
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    THE NEW Z06 IS FASTER THAN THE VIPER

    Y2K5SRT, Your post, which started this thread, was a class act and superbly written. A tip of the hat and a round of respectful applause to you sir. I know that it cannot have been easy to man up like that in this environment. That's courage and I have nothing but respect for it. I gather...
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    ALMS and Frustrated

    There is no Dodge Viper race car for three reasons: 1. Under ACO rules there must be production of 25 roadgoing examples of the vehicle being entered. Clearly the Competition Coupe does not and has never met this standard. 2. The maximum engine size for GT1 entries is 8 liters, making the...
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    For all the Z06 hand wringers....

    It is unlikely that those numbers are correct. Checked the production numbers as you wisely suggested but those do not gel either. Give me a link to the thread(s) that quoted these numbers. I am curious as to who gave them and if they cited a source. In any event, I am 100% confident that my...
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    For all the Z06 hand wringers....

    According to Automotive News, year 2004 Viper sales of 1,782 units represented a 15% drop from the 2,103 units sold in 2003. In 2005 this double-digit decline continues unabated with YTD sales of the Viper through the end of August (1,059 units) down 17% from the same time period in 2004 (1,279...
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    Side by side SRT coupe & ZO6... (pic)

    Ah yes, Road and Track’s analysis: "How do we know? Anyone who HEARD it said the sound could only come from a supercharger." Motor Trend’s assumption? An interview with driver Jan Magnussen and GM’s staff. Motor Trend went so far as to put "Z06 hot laps the Ring" on the top edge of their...
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    Side by side SRT coupe & ZO6... (pic)

    Actually, the opposite is true. Motor Trend SAID it was the Z06 and Road and Track and Autoweek THOUGHT it was the Blue Devil based entirely on what some eyewitnesses were said to have heard. Since you are a Viper owner I am surprised that you would buy into what someone heard as when the...
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    VIPER COUPE HP INCREASE

    Charge $452,750. If you compare the cost of the SL600 to the SL65 you will have a rough idea of what recertification costs are by limited volume. The SL600 is $131,675, an SL65 is $185,775. This difference represents a 41% increase which likely reflects not only recertification costs but...
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    VIPER COUPE HP INCREASE

    Joseph Houss is right when he indicates that Dodge did not do anything slick or underhanded in recalibrating the Viper’s power rating. Quite the opposite, they stepped up to the revised test and it turns out their car made slightly more power than expected under the new standards. This means...
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    Side by side SRT coupe & ZO6... (pic)

    Incorrect. The 7:42 time was the Z06.
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    viper, ZO6, ford GT, F430........

    Mmmmmm...yum... I'm sorry, was there a car in that picture?
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    viper, ZO6, ford GT, F430........

    Yes Sween, Viperfreak2 is indeed correct, I am 100% serious about the Z06. And no Viperfreak2, I have no difference with your opinion today other than to say that while it is an awesome car I am still not as enamored of the F430. BTW VF2, the "Slap yo mama" line made me genuinely laugh to...
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    viper, ZO6, ford GT, F430........

    Z06.
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    Z06 is a compelling alternative to Ferrari, Porsche, Aston Martin, Lamborghini, Maserati and Ford GT

    Wifey’s Viper, That’s an excellent point which I had forgotten. It also brings up another point; Most people fall back on the common but poor metric of HP/L but the real engineering test of engine efficiency is how much power you make in comparison to your relative mileage. As such, the...
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    Z06 is a compelling alternative to Ferrari, Porsche, Aston Martin, Lamborghini, Maserati and Ford GT

    Sween, Increasing horsepower is not a simple thing for an OEM in practice. To increase horsepower significantly will require a federally mandated emissions recertification with a program cost north of $10mm. For a low volume production car like the Viper, especially with sales having slid 30%...
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    Vipers vs ZO6 General Concerns

    Probably because they are quietly in talks with Lotus to help them develop a 600hp hemi V-10 with displacement-on-demand for the next generation Viper. That said, I think the Viper program, as evidenced by several of the comments on this thread, has lost sight of what it takes to win this game...
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    Road & Track says 3.9 sec 0-60 for 911S ??

    The 997S posts pretty impressive 0-60mph times because 1) At 3,300 lbs. it is relatively light 2) It uses fairly wide and very grippy lightweight low profile non run-flat tires and, most importantly, 3) The weight of the engine in the back naturally helps press the driven tires into the ground...

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