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    One racer's quote... "It's not a real car if you've not afraid of it".

    I've raced for close to 20 years now and I honestly hadn't ever heard that quote. But I kind of like it, with the caveat that it has to scare me in a good way (with high limits and certain unique handling or power band characteristics) and not in a bad way (unsafe, poorly engineered, etc.) I...
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    Has ESC been a success in avoiding deer?

    LOL. You are absolutely right about that! And you made my point better than I did I think. FWIW, Anot driving like a dumbass on the track is also a good thing. Particularly in a Viper. I'll be honest, I'm not nearly as enthused about instructing these days now that we have to ride with...
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    Has ESC been a success in avoiding deer?

    I think you can still get hurt in a Gen V if you aren't careful and/or don't know what you're doing at the limits. There are some scenarios where the car will bite. One is lift throttle oversteer (i.e., if you get into a corner too hot and lift to scrub speed). It's odd because the speed and...
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    What can SRT engineers do to improve future Gen Vipers?

    I think you guys nailed it pretty well with the items you've come up with already. In case anyone at SRT is tallying what is said here, my preference order would be: 1. No drone stock exhaust 2. Improved ergonomics in the driver's seat/steering wheel/roof area (+ seat memory for when you get...
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    Saying bye and giving an apology

    Honestly though, I think it would be a bad idea for SRT or any other make to offer a loaner exactly equivalent to the car you bring in for service. For one thing, it would be very expensive. Another issue is that people often trash their loaners, which is more problematic if it's an expensive...
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    Saying bye and giving an apology

    My Porsche dealer gives me a Mazda 6... I tell them "no thanks, I have another car." :)
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    Excessive Oil Consumption?

    Definitely take it in to the dealer. It's much better to be safe than sorry.
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    Reached the tipping point: the stock 2013 exhaust interior dB level is unacceptable

    Re: Reached the tipping point: the stock 2013 exhaust interior dB level is unacceptab So I was able to measure decibel levels in the cockpit today and the results are pretty interesting. First, the range was low 70s to a max of 103dbA. At idle it remained in the low 70s. At light throttle it...
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    Reached the tipping point: the stock 2013 exhaust interior dB level is unacceptable

    Re: Reached the tipping point: the stock 2013 exhaust interior dB level is unacceptab Thanks for the tips on the vortex cones. I used them once on a race car to meet sound requirements at a local track, but I'd forgotten about them until just now. FWIW, the below 2,200 RPM drone doesn't...
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    Reached the tipping point: the stock 2013 exhaust interior dB level is unacceptable

    Also cubican, do you know if there is room for an additional hi flow cat?
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    Reached the tipping point: the stock 2013 exhaust interior dB level is unacceptable

    Thanks for the tips on the Lloyd's mats. That's definitely worth a try. I am considering the Corsa too. FWIW it sounds great on the Gen 2. I spoke to them today and they think they have reduced and evened out the "sound pressure". Dan which combination of exhaust bits did you find worked the...
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    Reached the tipping point: the stock 2013 exhaust interior dB level is unacceptable

    Re: Reached the tipping point: the stock 2013 exhaust interior dB level is unacceptab SRTviper, thanks for the info. EDIT: It looks like the interior dB requirement, if there is one, is very high. Browsing though Edmunds, I found many cars with a dB at WOT over 90 and some over 100. Also...
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    Reached the tipping point: the stock 2013 exhaust interior dB level is unacceptable

    Re: Reached the tipping point: the stock 2013 exhaust interior dB level is unacceptab Windows down definitely helps some. It may have a crossover effect of sorts. In fact, a crossover pipe would likely help tremendously. If the sources I found are correct, they removed the crossover from the...
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    Reached the tipping point: the stock 2013 exhaust interior dB level is unacceptable

    Re: Reached the tipping point: the stock 2013 exhaust interior dB level is unacceptab I can measure the dB and post that to give some frame of reference, if you are interested. Besides the unmuffled race car reference above, I can also say that the interior dB is also considerably higher than...
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    Reached the tipping point: the stock 2013 exhaust interior dB level is unacceptable

    Re: Reached the tipping point: the stock 2013 exhaust interior dB level is unacceptab KDA: If you have something constructive to contribute, please do. Otherwise, please move on to the next thread.
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    Reached the tipping point: the stock 2013 exhaust interior dB level is unacceptable

    I've tried everything I can to get used to it, but I have to be honest: while the 2013 exhaust sounds good, the dB level in the GTS (at mid throttle to WOT) is on par with my 1966 GT350 race car (with side exhaust, no mufflers). As a long-time racer, I know what constant exposure to this level...
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    Viper Dyno Results

    Why would the final drive ratio affect the dyno result?
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    Saw this Gen 5 Viper Dodge dealer ad today...

    Having owned 10+ Porsches over the last 12 years (still have 2 with one on order) and don't think Porsche delivers everything buyers want. But I would agree the Porsche owners are much less apt to complain. It does sound like Porsche does do a better job of customer service than SRT. That may...
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    Corsa Exhaust Installed

    At the risk of sounding ignorant -- well what the hay -- why does the Gen 5 have so much more resonance than the Gen 4 and even the Gen 2? My Gen 4 is pretty 100% drone free. Even my Gen 2 with Corsa exhaust and Belanger headers is relatively pretty much drone free. Is it due to the subtle...
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    Fueling Question

    Glad I wasn't drinking anything when I read that!
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    Laguna Interior? Remove your airbag sticker?

    I'd be interested in finding out what works best for removing the stickers too!
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    Well...I Did it...

    Congrats,enjoy the new ride!
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    most miles

    I was thinking 2k tops. Tires Don't grip very well after a year or so any way. So we might as well use them while their still sticky!

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