If not in the market, then how can you answer, propose an answer or even feel your opinion is worth the 2 pennies.
From what I understand, as long as you're not bashing the Viper...which we aren't, or trying to negotiate a Gen. V down to $50k...which we aren't, then we are entitled to our opinion. As a Viper owner and "paying" member on this site, I suggest that you quit being a cheapskate and pony up the hundred bucks to be a member or YOUR opinion doesn't mean $hit...and that's LESS than 2 cents.
I'd like to file a complaint to Greg and Co. : non paying cheap skates should not be allowed to post condescending remarks. You should have to PAY to have that privilege.....
LOL....very true.Sun either way the Viper is going to Hell.
To be honest, I am not really sure what you are referring to...If not in the market, then how can you answer, propose an answer or even feel your opinion is worth the 2 pennies.
But, then you call someone a cheapskate because they didn't pay an annual fee for a club where you get little in return, but instead purchased the product the entire club is formed around?
Simply asking folks to explain their opinion with what they would actually do should not be that threatening.
But, then you call someone a cheapskate because they didn't pay an annual fee for a club where you get little in return, but instead purchased the product the entire club is formed around? The club fee is what determines knowledge in your opinion?
You are the definition of a cheapskate. You buy a new Viper but don't pay a hundred bucks to join the club. Why don't you join or beat it. I want feedback from somebody who appreciates and respects the club.
I think you must be the definition of an idiot then because you really have no concept of who you are even speaking with, membership involvement, etc. But, you feel because you paid for a club membership, you are entitled to insult an owner of the car in the forum you are in when you don't have the car nor plans to get one...
then even better, you ask an actual car owner to leave the club/forum and even cry to a moderator because your feelings got hurt that you were asked to explain a BS opinion you have based upon no facts or experience. I am glad you value your club membership so much, but please remind yourself what forum you are in (GenV). If you still own your Gen2, I suspect you have valuable information to share in that Forum. But, no matter how much you paid for your membership, it does not buy you experience or knowledge in the forum for the product built 10yrs after the one you have experience with.
Don't you ever read your own posts and say "wow, that was stupid. I am in a forum of a car I don't own and I am telling an owner of a $100k+ car that the forum is for they are cheap because they did not buy a club membership for this year. How stupid I must look when I people realize I spend a $100 and they spent much more and I am telling them they are cheap."
And what's more, if Joe Blow walks into a dealership and can now choose between a $65k 707hp Challenger or Charger....or a $100k plus 640hp Viper: that does not bode well for Viper sales any which way you slice it. But I guess you have to be "in the market" to figure that out.
First, I don't care who you are...your a condescending ******. Second, you are in fact a cheap individual....and I don't care if you own a $100k car. Ownership of a new Viper doesn't come with a complimentary **** pass. You know what's funny, I can't afford a new Viper but I'm nowhere near as cheap as you. And I don't feel stupid at all because every reply you post only solidifies what I mentioned above.
exactly, you do have to be in the market to figure that out. If you walk in to get a Viper, you presumably have the money to get it. at $65k challenger or charger is not going to confuse you to get that instead, unless you were never in the market for a Viper to begin with. It will only help the Viper on the chance a person goes into the dealer to get a Challenger or Charger based upon the hype and then sees the Viper and realizes they want a Viper and can afford it. It is only upside for the Viper.
But, as you say, if the person could not afford one, they were never in the market anyways. It really is pretty simple.
any data to back that opinion?
If you were in the market for a Gen5, would it really cause you to go elsewhere?
It would irk me some to buy the halo vehicle that has less power than other offerings. I can't really think of too many other manufacturer's who have their most premium models with less power than a lower model. Only Bentley (Mulsanne) and maybe BMW (7 series) comes to mind.
It *****. I can understand if they don't want to offer one in every trim level, but the SRT trim level should offer a manual on the Charger. You are marketing to driving enthusiasts at that level. A least let a stick be an option.Because apparently no one wants stick shifts anymore. I noticed the same thing back when I was looking for parts for my 67 Dart 5.7 Hemi swap. The engine came from an 06 Charger, but I was putting a manual behind it and looking up flywheels and pilot bearings and stuff but couldn't find anything. When I saw they never had a manual I was confused.