Thinking of swaping 06 5 Spoke rims/tires for Sidewinders with PS2's?

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  1. Wicked

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    Thinking of swaping 06 5 Spoke rims/tires for Sidewinders with PS2\'s?

    What are the stock 5 spoke with tires worth I guess? They are brand new and have 10 miles on them, going to pull them right off my coupe as soon as it gets here in a couple weeks.

    Are the Sidewinder rims still 34#'s lighter then the 5 spokes coming on my car? or should I just keep my rims and throw the PS2's or Sportsman Cup's on those?

    Looking to lose some rim/tire weight, and from reading, looks like I can lose almost 75 pounds! :)

    Thanks!
    Jason
     
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    Re: Thinking of swaping 06 5 Spoke rims/tires for Sidewinders with PS2\'s?

    The sidewinders are lighter. Changing the rims will be your biggest weight gain, the tires wont save a ton. Tire weight difference is only about 3lbs each between runflat and non runflat. But handling and ride will be improved.

    And I havent seen any 5 spoke coupe wheels listed in awhile, but they used to bring roughly $ 4k for rims/tires in NEW condition.
     
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    Re: Thinking of swaping 06 5 Spoke rims/tires for Sidewinders with PS2\'s?

    Does anybody have pictures of both rims? I would like to see a side-by-side comparison. They are both a 5 spoke wheel, correct?
     
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    Re: Thinking of swaping 06 5 Spoke rims/tires for Sidewinders with PS2\'s?

    Here's mine with Sidewinders. Bad picture, sorry.


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    Re: Thinking of swaping 06 5 Spoke rims/tires for Sidewinders with PS2\'s?

    How much do the sidewinders cost?
     
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    Re: Thinking of swaping 06 5 Spoke rims/tires for Sidewinders with PS2\'s?

    Those that have lost 75 lbs on wheels/tires did so by going to SSR 18" wheels and R compound competition tires which are DOT legal, but not necessarily the most practical tire for the street. Michelin Sport Cups are an example of this type of tire and weigh 30 lbs less than a set of run flats. As mentioned previously, their is much less weight difference between PS2s and run flats.

    It should also be mentioned that the 75 lb savings number was using factory 10 spokes as a starting point which are heavier than 5 spokes. There is still some weight savings to be had by going to the Sidewinders and PS2s, but no where near 75lbs. Probably about half that.
     
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    Re: Thinking of swaping 06 5 Spoke rims/tires for Sidewinders with PS2\'s?

    Sidewinders + Stoptech rotors + PS2's will get you very close to the 75 pound total weight savings for less than the HRE's. My preference is to retain the stock tire sizes.
     
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    Re: Thinking of swaping 06 5 Spoke rims/tires for Sidewinders with PS2\'s?

    Are the sports cups ok for street use? Even if they don't last more then 3-5k miles, I really don't mind changing them that often.

    Does anybody know the weight difference between the 5 spokes I have and the Sidewinders?

    Thanks!
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    Re: Thinking of swaping 06 5 Spoke rims/tires for Sidewinders with PS2\'s?

    There are pros and cons to street use:

    pros:
    1. 30 lbs lighter than stock run-flats which makes a very noticeable and possitive difference in performance, handling and braking.
    2. Better grip (at least in warm weather).
    3. Smoother ride than run-flats.

    Cons:
    1. Rapid wear. Order them pre-heat cycled from Tire Rack (cost an extra $15 per tire) and they will last longer and perform better, especially on the track.
    2. Poor traction in cold weather. Definitely worse than regular tires.
    3. Not bad on wet roads, but heavy rain with lots of standing water can be a problem.
    4. Tend to "bump steer" much worse than factory tires on roads that are rutted from heavy truck traffic. If you live an area were the roads are bad this way, I wouldn't recommend them. It's a real pain in the butt and can be dangerous.

    All that said, I still use them on the street myself and have them mounted on 18" SSRs. The improvement in performance is worth the negative aspects to me.
     
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    Re: Thinking of swaping 06 5 Spoke rims/tires for Sidewinders with PS2\'s?

    wicked--

    Let me know if your going to get rid of those factory 5 spoke. I think i would be interested in buying them.


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    Re: Thinking of swaping 06 5 Spoke rims/tires for Sidewinders with PS2\'s?

    here is mine with SRT-Sidewinder (blems/silver painted finish) thanks JonB www.partsrack.com
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    Re: Thinking of swaping 06 5 Spoke rims/tires for Sidewinders with PS2\'s?

    Wicked,

    I went from factory 5 spokes with run flats to polished sidewinders and non-run flat pilots. Weight loss was almost 50 lbs. Performance improvement was immediate and much greater than expected.

    Their is one more negative to the Cups. They will sandblast the area behind your tires. That said, I run Kumho Ecsta V-700s on the rear. They are much stickier than the cups, last longer and handle better. They are also not so slippery when cold. A much better performance tire. They too sand blast the area behind the tire.

    Good luck.

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    Re: Thinking of swaping 06 5 Spoke rims/tires for Sidewinders with PS2\'s?

    How much is a fair asking price for my factory 5 spokes w/ tires?

    Also, what can I do to prevent this sandblast effect? Put that 3M protective coating over those areas? I'd hate to cause any undue damage to the car because of a tire swap.

    Thanks!
    Jason
     
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    Re: Thinking of swaping 06 5 Spoke rims/tires for Sidewinders with PS2\'s?

    I for one like the 5 spokes you get from the factory :)
     
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    Re: Thinking of swaping 06 5 Spoke rims/tires for Sidewinders with PS2\'s?

    there are two five spoke wheels that came from the factory on SRT-10's the SRT-Sidwinder(polished finish) on the Copperhead(may have been an option on others later) and the one that came out in'06 with the spokes flush with the wheel rim.
     
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    Re: Thinking of swaping 06 5 Spoke rims/tires for Sidewinders with PS2\'s?

    Just list them on here or ebay and see what you get offered. They used to bring about $4K for wheels/tires. Thats for the 06 5 spokes that are flush. The sidewinder wheels (which only came on the 05 copperhead edition) are less money. Ive seen sets sold on ebay for around $2-3K with wheels/tires.

    I honestly think I like the look of the coupe 5 spoke better, I wanted to trade at one point. But knowing that the sidewinder wheels on mine are lighter,Ill probably just keep these and get rid of the run flats.
     
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    Re: Thinking of swaping 06 5 Spoke rims/tires for Sidewinders with PS2\'s?

    Thanks Michael


    PartsRack has 2 sets of these beautiful 18-19" Viper-Silver wheels in stock at under $2600/set of four, with $50/set Shipping USA48 in FEB or til sold !!
     
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    Re: Thinking of swaping 06 5 Spoke rims/tires for Sidewinders with PS2\'s?

    A friend's car.
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