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I am a loyal Zaino guy, I promote it to everyone and use it religiously. Is Zaino the best though? Are there better polishes out there?

When I say best I refer to results, not based on price or time consumed in applying it.

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It seemed that at one time, Zaino was the heavyweight. Now it's pretty varied. Another product line mentioned frequently is McGuiers NXT. My guess is if you took Zaino and did half the hood and did the other half with either Pennacle or McGuiers, that it would be hard to tell the difference. What I like about McGuiers is that there can't be another product on the net that has such great web support with extensive forums and discussion groups as there is with McGuires.
 

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Zaino and Pinnacle...no others...

Meguiars NXT has lots of silicone in it and has a very short life on your finish.

Do a search ...you will see
 

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Glare product is one of the best if not the best. Expensive but well worth it. Final polish Glare Professional must be applied by electric polisher able to have a RPM 1800-2000. This product is heated up and fused with the clear coat. They give a five year guarantee on the product if applied properly. Anyway give it a try. Web site is www.autopolish.net . I have been using this in a business down here for scratch removal and chip repair and find it to be the superior product for scratch removal and final polish/protection.
 

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I use Pinnacle. Anyone have a suggestions for getting the chrome rims to really shine again? Mine look a little dull.
 

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did someone say Pinnacle.....







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Wow-that looks like a black mirror. But it's Sapphire! Where do you get Pinnacle(on the web?)? Apply by hand or buffer/polisher?
 

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Having used all the normal stuff, zaino, and now pinnacle I can say with 100% certantly that Pinnacle is light years ahead of all the others. But you pay a nice premium for it.

www.pinnaclewax.com

Oh and I hand apply all of it. Don't trust myself with a high powered right angle polisher yet. Have used a buffer but seems to come out better by hand.
 

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I am a loyal Zaino guy, I promote it to everyone and use it religiously. Is Zaino the best though? Are there better polishes out there?

When I say best I refer to results, not based on price or time consumed in applying it.

Thanks

First off, there is no one wonder polish. Proper detailing is a process.

Here is 12 coats of Zaino on the left, and one coat of NXT on top of the Zanio on the right.

Which side would you rather have?

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Full story below.

Learn to properly buff out your finish, then you could spit on it and it would look great!

http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1879&highlight=zanio
 

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I think the best Polish I've had is on Randolph Street in Chicago, with a close second at the Brat Stop in Wisconsin where you can get a brat or a polish.....................Oh you said "polish"...nevermind.
 

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NXT gives a nice shine and is easy to apply - the only issue I have is that (in my opinion) it does seem to attract dust. Seems that many feel Zaino does not. Any feedback from the Pinnacle users on dust attraction?

Also - any feedback on Claybars/lubricants?
 

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I use the NXT and it does work awesome. But I want to know if their is a problem to using the wax 4x a year. I do not want to jack up my B/W paint job. Please give some input. I guess the silicone wax can be bad. Are we talking 5 years, 10 years before the paint could go, or what?.
 

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NXT is one of the worst products that I have ever used. No durability (I got 2 weeks) and is full of silicone oils. Zaino keeps improving with every release and now with the release of Zaino Z2 Pro it is virtually idiot proof and dries almost instantly. I found it to even gives a deeper wetter look than Pinnacle and has unbelievable durability.

P.S. Newport, it looks like they forgot to prep the 1/2 of the hood with the 12 coats of Zaino. My cars look 1000 times better with only one coat of Zaino.
 

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P.S. Newport, it looks like they forgot to prep the 1/2 of the hood with the 12 coats of Zaino. My cars look 1000 times better with only one coat of Zaino.


No Kidding! Can you believe the owner thought it looked good. Look at what one coat of NXT did over the Zaino. It gave it depth, clarity and richness instead of the plasticy look of the Zaino.
 

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Meguiars NXT has lots of silicone in it and has a very short life on your finish.

Do a search ...you will see


That's strange, it seems I have never seen NXT do this.....

Lots of nasty silicone oils in the Zaino.


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This thread has been covered a million times already...do a search

jdawg...NICE Shine and pic!

the fact remains the same...nxt has silicone in it...zaino does not....the vette pic with the 1/2 hood deal is a no brainer

any silicone or oil/grease will hide scratches temporarly...got any scratches in your wrist watch or eye glasses??? just apply a little silicone and ..**** they are gone...but only for a short time...after the silicone wears off

your pic of zaino separation is a bottle older than 2-3 years or so. zaino recommends using it before then

pour some nxt in a glass jar and watch what it does in the same time...but separation will occur sooner


Pinnacle is far superior in all aspects over nxt......... and Zaino by far has the best Shine and Durability...your nxt will look good as long as you apply it every 2-3 weeks

but in a few years your paint will be proof that silicones can and will ruin a cars finish

silicones will cloud clear coat, and silicones will soften paint and cause bubbles, and loosen its adhesion properties

don't believe me? put some oil or silicone on your paint and let it sit


sorry, but I will never use nxt and will always use Pinnacle and Zaino Products

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Here is 12 coats of Zaino on the left, and one coat of NXT on top of the Zanio on the right.

Which side would you rather have?

4162ZainoCorvette7RAW1-med.jpg

Not a far representation. Take a photo with the sun glare on the right side too! I bet it looks the same.
 

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This sounds like a thread you would read on the corvette forum. :D

Hey Brian, When's that TT monster of yours getting back? From what I heard, it's going to set the Viper world on fire. :2tu: :usa:
 

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but in a few years your paint will be proof that silicones can and will ruin a cars finish

silicones will cloud clear coat, and silicones will soften paint and cause bubbles, and loosen its adhesion properties

That's a pretty emphatic statement with absolutely no documented proof whatsoever of it being true. Let's see some proof of that somewhere, anywhere that NXT or any silicon based product will in fact damage paint over time.
 

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but in a few years your paint will be proof that silicones can and will ruin a cars finish

silicones will cloud clear coat, and silicones will soften paint and cause bubbles, and loosen its adhesion properties

That's a pretty emphatic statement with absolutely no documented proof whatsoever of it being true. Let's see some proof of that somewhere, anywhere that NXT or any silicon based product will in fact damage paint over time.


http://www.goclean.com/carcare.htm

READ under Waxes, Sealants, and Protectants.
 

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18. Are products that contain silicone bad for my car's finish?

No. In fact, automotive paints worldwide contain silicone as an ingredient to help the paint to spray and flow more smoothly.

Most of the concerns people have about silicones and products that contain silicones stem from the problems associated with them in the early 1950's. Back then, 40 and 50 years ago, if the surface wasn’t properly prepared, residual silicones on the surface or in the shop environment, could cause surface adhesion problems. The most common among them is a defect referred to Fish Eyes in the paint.

Fish Eyes are a small, circular craters that appear in the finish where the paint piles up in a circle surrounding a point on the surface that contains some type of contaminant that creates high surface tension, usually some type of wax, grease or silicone. The reason freshly sprayed paint does this is because contaminants like wax and silicone tend to create high surface tension and do not allow the freshly applied paint to stick or adhere properly. Instead of laying down flat over the top of these contaminants, the paint moves away from these contaminants, forming a ring around them that has the visual appearance of what is historically described as a "fish eye".

Knowledge of chemistry, as well as most other technologies have evolved and grown substantially since the 1950's (just look at modern cars and personal computers as two very visible, common examples of how technology has progressed). The problems painters encountered 50 years ago are more easily addressed with today's modern paint prepping chemicals, shop environments, paint additives, and most importantly, education. Back in the 1950's, there were no formal training programs available for young men and women entering the automotive repair industry. Most of the time, a person would start out at the bottom, sweeping and cleaning up, and slowly move up the ladder through knowledge gained by on-the-job training. Today there are hundreds of certified schools that specialize in formal education for the automotive industry. This includes paint manufacturers, who provide in-depth training for anyone who uses their paint systems.

Most professionals in the refinishing industry understand that a majority of the paintwork they do, day-in and day-out, is on cars that have been waxed using products that contain both wax and silicone.

Professionals in the body shop industry always perform the necessary preparation work required to insure that "fish eyes" are not a problem. This includes using special degreasers, wax and silicone removers that effectively remove these substances from the surface or chemically alter their molecular structure in such a way to insure they pose no problems. If there is ever any question or doubt about the surface to which new paint is going to be applied, painters will include a Fish Eye Eliminator into the paint, which insures a finish free from fish eyes. Interestingly enough, Fish Eye Eliminator is typically a special silicone additive.

There are many kinds of silicones available for use in car care products, the one thing all silicones have in common is they are completely inert. This means they do not react in either a negative or a positive manner with any substance they come into contact with, including your car's paint.


Silicones are primarily used to modify or enhance a specific characteristic of another ingredient in a Meguiar's formula. If the silicones Meguiar's relies on didn't offer some type of positive benefit to the product, or the end-user and the results they are trying to achieve, Meguiar's wouldn't include them in their formulas.

For example: The use of some types of silicone in a formula acts to make the product easier to both spread and wipe-off, thus reducing the effort required to apply and remove the product, which then helps to reduce the potential for application or wipe-off inflicted scratches. That’s a benefit to you.

Meguiar's has been the leader in creating paintable, body shop safe products because of our history and continuing leadership in creating state-of-the-art formulas for use by new car manufacturers as well as the collision repair and custom painting industries. Because of our expertise in creating wax and silicone-free products for fresh paint environments, you will find many of our paint cleaners and polishes are paintable and body shop safe.


Because Meguiar's is a major supplier to the automotive finishing industry, both to OEM (factory level) and the re-finishing industry (collision repair, body shops and custom paint shops), Meguiar's can offer you a complete selection of paintable products including at least one polish that contains a paintable polymer for increased protection.

The fear and confusion surrounding this single ingredient, silicone, is an ongoing problem people run into when they get caught up in the hype and misinformation spread from person to person, generation to generation and now-a-days, on the internet, which exaggerates the problems surrounding the use of silicones in car care products.

There are some sources that even go so far to say that silicones are harmful to paint. This is not only dishonest; it calls into question the credibility of that resource and any and all claims they make. Silicone is inert. It cannot harm paint, let alone anything else it is formulated into, or sitting on top of, especially in the form of a coating of wax.
 

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your pic of zaino separation is a bottle older than 2-3 years or so. zaino recommends using it before then

Oil is oil....

Happens with the new Z too.

Do a search...

J DAWG Nice pics. How did you prep your paint?
 

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