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I've got Harleys and DOT approved helmets. I've been borrowing a friends "snell" rated helmet for the last 6 months. I don't understand all the regulations on the approved stamp and the DOT stamp..can someone please explain this to me.

It seams there are several different ratings even for "Snell" Snell SA05, Snell M05, Snell 2000, Snell 2005, Snell M2000. What is the latest and greatest? Where are the ratings excepted at most track days/ Viper days?

I'm kinda gettin tired of having to remember when my harnesses and driving suit and everything else is dated...I'm starting to think that these bodies are being told by manufacturers that's as long as they will put there name on the line..BUY A NEW SET!!...Answer..KISS MY ASS!!!!

Back to the point, what is the difference in these ratings?

Thanks,
Todd
 

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Motor cycle helmets are not fire rated and you cannot use them in open track , Viper Days etc, for that reason.
Snell 95 or newer - basically the helmets are certified for two years then they are junk -the plastics etc deteriorate and will no longer do their job. Belts and fire extinguishers AND DRIVING SUITS are the same.
Most belt companies will rebuild your existing belts with brand new webbing for about 1/2 the cost, or less, than new.

So you may want the manufacturers to Kiss your rear end, Butt would you rather be in your car upside down with current belts, helmet, fire suit and fire bottle, or your worn out [*****]!!! YOUR CHOICE!
 

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SA2000 or better at MOST HPDE's is required

I went to a full face helmet last yr, really thought it would be harder to see peripheral, but it's not at all
 

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Motor cycle helmets are not fire rated and you cannot use them in open track , Viper Days etc, for that reason.
Well, not quite. It all depends on who is running the event - many open track events are fine with current motorcycle helmets (since thats all I use, going to track only perhaps twice a year). Its all up to the event organizer and their insurance.
 

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HELMET RATINGS

SA Rated Helmets:
Snell "SA" (Sports Application) rated professional helmets are designed for auto racing and provide extreme impact resistance and higher fire protection. (hitting a roll bar at 100MPH then catching on fire)

M Rated Helmets:
Snell "M" (Motorcycle) rated helmets are designed for motorcycling and other motorsports. They offer slightly less protection than SA rated helmets.

Key differences between SA and M Rated Helmets:
SA standard requires flammability test while the M standard does not.
SA standard has rollbar impact test while M standard does not.
SA standard allows narrower visual field than M standard (Some SA helmets aren't street legal).

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BEFORE ORDERING A HELMET:
Measurement
Measuring the head is a starting point for the entire sizing procedure. Due to varying shapes, heads that are apparently the same size when measured by a tape may not necessarily fit the same size helmet.The circumference of the head should be measured at a point approximately one inch above the eyebrows in front and at a point in the back of the head that results in the largest possible measurement. Take several measurements to make sure you have the largest one. This is the size to compare on our charts.

NOTE: If you have facial hair (beard) or an unusually thick head of hair, you may want to consider ordering 1 size up from what is shown on the sizing charts...especially if you are near the top of your size range.


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AFTER YOU RECEIVE YOUR HELMET:
Try It On
A) Grasp the helmet by the chin straps, with the front of the helmet facing you and the top of the helmet facing down.
B) Place the thumbs on the inside surface of the straps and balance the helmet with the index fingers.
C) Spread the helmet apart with the hands, and slip down over the head.

If the helmet slides down on the head with no resistance, you have your first indication that it may be too large. Obviously, if it will not slide down over the head at all it is too small. Many people unfamiliar with helmets are reluctant to pull down if they meet resistance as the helmet goes on. Only if the helmet is impossible to put on should you move up to the next size, as helmets that go on snug generally fit very well once all the way on. Remember, most people will select a helmet that is too large for them. The eyes should be approximately in the center of the eyeport with the top edge of the liner padding just above the eyebrows.

Checking Horizontal and Vertical Movement
Now that you are wearing the helmet, look carefully at the way it fits. Check to see if the cheek pads are in contact with the cheeks. Is there excess pressure on the cheeks? Look for gaps between the temples and the browpad. Check the back of the helmet where the neckroll (if the helmet has one) makes contact with the neck. Does it touch at all? Or is it pushing the helmet away at the rear causing it to roll down over the eyes in front? After you have made your visual check, grab the helmet in your hands, one on either side, and try to rotate the helmet from side to side. Note any movement of the skin while doing this, as well as the amount of resistance to movement remembering to hold your head steady.

Next, check movement up and down, again noting skin movement and resistance. If in either test there was little or no skin movement, and/or the helmet moved very easily, the helmet is too large. A properly fitted helmet will cause the skin to move as the helmet moves. And, it will feel to the wearer as if evenly distributed pressure is being continuously exerted around the head.

NOTE: Helmets are a little like shoes, in that they do break-in a little. For this reason the best attitude to have when fitting is that the helmet should be as tight as you can stand to wear it.

Retention Check
WARNING: This test may be a little uncomfortable, but it is very important! Now, fasten the chin strap, so you can check it. After the strap has been tightly fastened, while holding your head steady, reach over the top of the helmet grabbing the bottom edge with your fingers. Then, try to roll the helmet off your head. If it comes off, it is undoubtedly too large.
NOTE: Never buy a helmet that can be rolled off the head with the strap fastened.

Pressure Point Check
Finally, unfasten the chin strap and remove the helmet. Immediately after the helmet has been removed, observe coloration of the skin of the forehead and cheeks. A reddening of the skin in a small area may indicate a pressure point. Pressure points sometimes are not noticed by the wearer for several minutes, or even hours later. They sometimes cause headaches, and are at the least, uncomfortable. If you notice a pressure point, or experienced discomfort there while wearing the helmet, it's too small. If you cannot remember, put the helmet back on for a few minutes, paying particular attention to the anticipated pressure point. If the pressure point causes discomfort either time, go to the next larger size, repeating steps four and five.

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Motor cycle helmets are not fire rated and you cannot use them in open track , Viper Days etc, for that reason.
Well, not quite. It all depends on who is running the event - many open track events are fine with current motorcycle helmets (since thats all I use, going to track only perhaps twice a year). Its all up to the event organizer and their insurance.

"M" rated helmets absorb trauma differently then "SA" rated helmets. How much is your head and brain worth, those were the words 6 years ago that convinced my to get a well made SA2000 closed faced helmet that fit right. Now you'd get an SA2005 bucket, don't skimp on your brain!
 

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You guys are right - change 'cannot' to should not in my post - I'm with Ron -buy the best safety gear you can afford
 

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SA 2005 is the latest version. The SA 2000 helmets are on discount right now, but they will not pass tech in a couple of years from now.
 

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