Why Cant I Drag Race Anymore!!!!!!

[1BADGTS]

Yes the elevation at our testing spot is 1000 feet above sea level...

My cousin took hi s Z06 to the track when it was stock and only ran 12.2 at 119-120 mph....

So we thought the 11.9 at consistant 123's wasnt bad..

This same elevation of 1000 feet is were i have ran for years..


It will be easier if I just post up one of my post from years ago when I started drag raceing this car...Then you will see why Im so dissapointed in all the mid 12's

Thetre you go on a sea level track you guys would probably be MID-LOW 11S ALL DAY LONG.

 

[Twister]

Read this thread...

http://forums.viperclub.org/srt10-s...s/634012-eibach-pro-kit-lowering-springs.html

Thanks Nader

 

[Twister]

Give me a few minutes before you respond to this as i am cutting and pasting..


SORRY THAT NO TRACK IS AVAILABLE ON MY ISLAND AND ALL I HAVE IS MY CIRCUIT CITY FX2 TIMER...(always the same exact location a outstanding 1/4 mile spot that I have been useing for about 8 years now.......


1000 feet elevation
65-75 degree hawaiian weather

And with the same circuit city FX2 timer I have been using for 8 years

(tested at actual drag strip for accurracy and found that the 60 ft is 100% accuartae and the 1/8 mile is 99% accurate and the 1/4 mile is usually off by 1.5 mph and 1.5 tenths...But sometimes dead on)...

The following cars have been tested at this location useing my FX2 timer

-98 supercharged auto camaro=14.9 at 93 mph( best ever at drag strip=15.1 at 91 mph)

-stock 2004 auto corvette=13.3 at 105 mph(best ever at drag strip=13.5 at 104)

-stock manual 2005 nsx=13.1 at 107 mph( no drag strip runs)

-stage1 auto E55AMG=12.5 at 111 mph (best ever drag strip 12.7 at 110 mph)

-Mild head and cam auto corvette=12.6 at 113 (best ever drag strip=12.8 at 111)

-1999 Viper stock 410 rwhp=12.4 at 117 (no drag strip runs)

-1999 Viper with bolt ons and 445 rwhp=12.0 at 122 mph (no drag strip runs)

-Then my 480 rwhp srt10=11.8 at 122 mph ( no drag strip runs)




You can see on my first outing trying to learn the car I sucked pretty badly..LOL

2003 srt10 with roller rockers and kn filters at 459 rwhp

1-12.7 @ 114
2-12.4 @ 115
3-12.4 @ 116
4-12.5 @ 115.6
5-12.4 @ 115

Man this car ***** I thought...Littel did I know that I was shifting when that damn yellow arrow appeared and really to early at 5500 rpm's or so

Tried shifting a lil later
6-12.4 @ 117.9

And then a lil later

7-12.37 @ 119.0
8-12.25 @ 119.3

And then on my 9th and final run shifting right before red line I clicked off a

9-12.08 @ 118.9 1.93 60 ft 7.9 @ 91.3 1/8
0-60 mph in 4.13

Very happy with the ET but dissapointed in the 119 max trapps I called it a night

Went back at it again a few days later( KN filters and roller rockers) 459/492 SAE

I baby shifted on these runs trying to see if I could hit 120 mph trapps

10-12.77 @ 115.6
11- 12.75 @ 118.1
12-12.43 @ 120.2

YEA BABY a 120 trapp..Not to shabby and I called it a night

Went back out on another night( kn filters and roller rockers) 459/492 SAE

Tonight I wanted an 11 second pass and was all buisness


13- 12.5 at 115.9 getting warmed up
14- 12.4 @ 117.8
15-12.26 @ 119.2
16- 12.1 @ 120.5

17- 11.97 @ 121.3 60 ft 1.97 7.9 @ 93.5 1/8 0-60=4.05 !!!!!!!!! HELL YEA best ever with kn filter and roller rockers

18-12.1 @ 120.2
19-12.1 @ 120.1
20- 12.05 @ 122.2 ( highest mph yet)!!!!!!!!!!
21- 12.08 @ 121.4

Then I called it a night...

( kn filters and roller rockers plus cat/muffler delete) ???rwhp???rwt...added the cat/muffler delete and went back at it


22- 12.22 @ 119.6
23- 12.13 @ 118.8
24- 12.03 @ 120.6
25- 11.95 @ 121.9
26- 11.78 @ 124 DECIDED TO NOT COUNT THIS RUN AS I COULDNT BACK IT UP
27- 11.92 @ 121.7
28- 11.92 @ 121.5

Kn filters and roller rockers plus cat/muffler delete and removal of rain baffle...rwhp??? rwt???


29- 12.2 @ 121.9
30- 12.1 @ 120.4
31- 12.0 @ 120.5
32- 11.88@ 122.3 2.0 60 ft fastest ever WITH LOTS OF 11.9'S AND 121 MPH TRAPPS TO BACK IT UP

well honestly it seems like removeing the rain baffle gave me maybe a .5 mph benifit....looks like I was 120-122 mph all night...but befor removing the rain baffle MY runs would be in the 119.5-121.7 range


well it's been a long time.. I sold the car and recently bought it back....car still has the KN filter and Harland sharp roller rockers with the deleted muffler and cats as well as the removed rain baffle...But the car now has an adittional mod..A Titanium exhaust


MY COUSIN RECENTLY USED MY FX2 TIMER ON HIs 520 RWHP CAMMED C6Z06 A WEEK AGO AND AVERAGED 123 MPH AND RAN A BEST OF 11.9...

ILL SEE WHAT THE SRT10 CAN DO IN AN HOUR...

ok..so all these numbers are before I sold the car...I was routinely able to run a high 11 or low 12 at 119-122 mph



As you can see while i was far and away from being a Jamie Furman or Even smith...I feel like I was doing a decent job..Especisally considering the elevation....

But Ive logged around 30 runs in the past mont...The best was a 12.3 at 119 I belieave..Most are mid 12's at 118-120 mph..

It's not really so much the car..as what am I doing wrong..?????

 

[utahviper]

First, get the dyno. See where the numbers are at. Second, have someone who knows what they are doing check the suspension/counter weighting/alignment. This can have a great affect on your ability to hook off the line.

As a side note, I dont think it is possible to get less than a 1.9 60' time on the street(not prepped) with pilots. Im not saying it is impossible but just not repeatable. Also, if your not hooking off the line you are not going to MPH as high as you possibly could. My highest MPH is usually when I can pull off a good 60' plus not bog.

Good luck.

 

[dragon rider]

Here is my take on using Eibach lowering springs in a street tire (PS2)drag setup. A progressive spring with a one inch drop is not that big a deal. Most people including myself would like it lower, but if you go lower without improving the entire system your ride quality will ****. I understand the physics of setting a drag car up so that it will squat forcing the weight on the rear tires. This idea is extremely important when running a full out slick or drag radial, cutting 1.5 60 foot time or better, but not a much when trying to run 1.7 or 1.8 60 foot times on a true street tire. I cut 1.8 all day long with my spings on PS2's.

 

[1BADGTS]

Here is my take on using Eibach lowering springs in a street tire (PS2)drag setup. A progressive spring with a one inch drop is not that big a deal. Most people including myself would like it lower, but if you go lower without improving the entire system your ride quality will ****. I understand the physics of setting a drag car up so that it will squat forcing the weight on the rear tires. This idea is extremely important when running a full out slick or drag radial, cutting 1.5 60 foot time or better, but not a much when trying to run 1.7 or 1.8 60 foot times on a true street tire. I cut 1.8 all day long with my spings on PS2's.

Exactly as Evan cuts also cuts 1.8s all night long on an unprepped track t during test and tune nights =over 1000 cars have made passes..On prepped tracks i have seen him cut 1.6s -1.5s on stock Pilots .Furman is just as good if not better you have to be when you have the ability to put a ZR-1 ,Z06 and a Gen 4 Viper in the 10s BONE STOCK on stock tires.THE ONLY PERSON TO EVER DO SO.

 

[Twister]

While I am a HUGE fan of Jamie/Evan...I have never heard of eighter of them doing anything remarkable in a gen3..

Sure Jamie ran 11.7 at 121 in his gen2 ACR and 11.59 at 123 after removing his air intake on his gen2 ACR..As well as his 10.9 in his gen4

Evan has his documented 11.7 in a gen 2....


But Ive never herd/read/seen anything from them in the gen3...A gen3 is a totally differant drag raceing machine than a gen2..And I imagine a gen4 with it's variable cam is a totally differant driving car 1/4 mile wise as well...

While I have nonthing but respect for them both....Ill have to go with someone who has actually ran the times in a gen3...

Speed frek comes to mind....And heres what he had to say...Keep in mind he has ran a 11.5 at 121-123 mph in a stock gen3 ...Guys got skills...



here it is, cant say I agree with his light theory..but everything else is worth a try

A very exciting night at the track and several interesting discoveries about drag racing a viper. Weather conditions were practically perfect: temps in the 40's, high pressure and low humidity. We don't get many drag racing days like this in Florida and it really makes it something. The track condition was excellent and several pro stock cars doing testing on this new track set world record times (one I watched ran 6.51 @213) but they don't count as there was no event they were participating in.

My expectations were high and was hoping to set some smoking times and sort out the MPH mystery. Well I did figure out the MPH mystery and it was totally by accident. One other thing that goes on with Florida racing is they often run at night because of the heat. It so happens that the track opens at 4:00 but racing usually starts around 5:00 to 5:30. That is dusk this time of year so it is dark pretty fast. My first pass was an 11.98 @ 120.04 at about 5:45 p.m. when it was still daylight. The car felt incredibly strong and the power shift from 1-2 was unbelievable and so violent I nearly put the beauty in the wall. Fish tailed and wheel hopped violently and left a lot of time on the table in the process. I decided to forego the 1-2 powershift in favor of a speed shift to better control the car and traction thereafter. This made immediate improvement and I clocked an 11.89 and then an 11.86 @ 121.61. The outside temperature was dropping fast now and the car just kept getting stronger and stronger. Next pass saw a mediocre e.t. but a 122.6mph (wow). On the return from this pass it was nearly dark so I turned on my lights on the return lane back to the pits and to pick up my slip. Didn't think much of it. Grabbed the slip and went straight back to line up. I got right back on and laid down the killer pass: 11.80 @ 120.3 with a 1.84 short time. I was fired up, but thought what in the hell happened to the MPH? Well guess what gang - IT WAS THE LIGHTS BEING ON. Believe it or not the headlights will cost you 2.3 MPH (that is over 20 HP at the wheels) in the quarter mile. I would have never believed it but it is true. Apparently those lights **** a hell of alot of juice and that big alternator is kicking on at the top end of the track. On my previous trip I ran entirely in the dark and had the lights on the whole time!!!!! 115.5 plus 2.3 equals 117.8 mph!!! which is where it should have been. I figured it out when I sat in line a long time waiting and killed the engine. When I restarted it I only turned on the parking lights and behold the MPH came up 1.7 on the next two passes. Sooooooo

Lesson 1: Full headlights costs 2.3 MPH in quarter and parking lights cost about .5 MPH. In my last pass I ran 122.9 with no lights on at all. Makes reading the tach tough but necessary.

Lesson 2: I most assuredly would have turned an 11.7 pass on my 11.80 @ 120.3 if I had had the damn lights off. Really pissed me off after I figured it out. I got close with an 11.82 and 11.84 after that but just couldn't quite make it come together again. Both these passes were with the lights on. So the best pass was:

60' 1.841
330 5.072
1/8th 7.709
MPH 94.31
1000 9.943
1/4 11.807
MPH 120.29

Lesson 3 - The runflat likes very little time between runs. If you can come straight back and get back on the track quickly, its traction improves markedly. It builds heat on the run (from the high speed, etc.)and retains some of that for a while. Also, the pressue in the tire will keep creeping up when you do this so check it often. Best tractions seems about 24-25 psi. I had much better luck doing this than going for prolonged cool downs between runs as most people do for improved engine power. Obviously, the engine makes all the power you need. It is getting it to the ground that is the challenge.

Lesson 4 - Burn out strategy. In keeping with above, do a double burn out. Go around the water, then back up to just ahead of it. Do a hard burn out (2-3 seconds) and then hit the brakes, wait a few seconds. You should still have enough room to do one more short burn out before staging. On this second one you will notice the tires get alot stickier. With this strategy you can leave aggressively at about 3000 RPM with full traction on launch and consistent 1.8 short times.

By the time I figured out the light mystery I got in only 2 more passes. Bummer, as I am sure I could have broke 11.7 if I had stuck around. Last run was 11.86 @ 122.99 with 1.89 short time. Another 1.84 or better and 11.7 something would have happened for sure. As I am writing this the density altitude at the track now is -1430 feet!

By 7:30 it was getting very crowded and I had to head home. They were running until 11:00, oh well. This may be it for me in a stock viper as I am going to begin modding the car with a gear change, etc. I am really impressed with this powerplant though. By my calculations this thing was making 515HP at the wheels toward the end (122.9 mph and 3600lbs.) Incredible.

Last question: How much do PS2s help traction. I was giving up alot of time on the 1-2 shift. If the PS2 would allow a good 1-2power shift even an 11.6 might be in the making.

 

[Twister]

and here is his 11.5 at 122 night

Can hardly believe it myself but I turned a smoking 11.572 @ 122.41 at the track tonight. Conditions were very similar to last Wednesday when I set the other record but tonight I pulled out all the stops and used every drag racing trick I could think of. I think this will be the conclusion of my stock 06 runflat experiment. The tires are all but gone and I just don't think there is anything left in her after this time unless I waited until next winter. In my opinion the only way this gets improved on is with that 1 in 100 60 foot time and perfect 1-2 shift and some great weather and even then it won't be much. A stock 06 Viper turning 11.50s in sea level weather is flat spanking it.

I also put away my first Z06 tonight to boot with an 11.76 @ 120.8 to his 11.83 @ 125.13. I got a good whole shot on him and held on for a nail biter but he was pulling on me like a freight train toward the end. Don't know if the car is stock or not.

I got very close to breaking my old 11.69 on the first pass and frankly if I wasn't carrying so much fuel I probably would have. I went 11.70 @ 121.45 after an extended cool down at the starting line because the guy right in front of me blew his radiator at 3/4 track so I sat for probably 20 minutes waiting for clean up.

I ran two or three more low 11.70s and decided to give the car an extended cool down and see if I could get that killer pass with the weather improving as the night went on. Track attendance was very light tonight so I went to the staging manager and asked if when I was ready to go he would let me pull up immediately and run. He said o.k. so the plan was on. I let her cool about 45 minutes. Usually cool downs have not worked for me because of reduced traction because the run flats cool off to much. For this run I did no less than THREE burnouts to bring them back up to temp. As I have mentioned before I do best normally hot lapping the car because the tires stay hot. Forget that crap about how it doesn't help a street tire. Any tire we run on a viper is alot closer to a racing tire than a normal street radial and they need heat. Period. If they sit more than 10-15 minutes you will loose traction, guaranteed. I pulled up, staged and the rest is history. Here is the pass:

Reaction Time .034
60' 1.805
330' 4.940
1/8 7.517
MPH 95.58
1000 9.719
1/4 11.572
MPH 122.41

Everything about this pass had to do with getting the maximum horsepower out of the car and the cool down did it. MPH was up about 1.6 MPH. The 1-2 shift was perfect with only a slight bark. Time to start modding the car. The Z06's better watch out, there is a new sheriff in town. LOL.

 

[1BADGTS]

and here is his 11.5 at 122 night

Can hardly believe it myself but I turned a smoking 11.572 @ 122.41 at the track tonight. Conditions were very similar to last Wednesday when I set the other record but tonight I pulled out all the stops and used every drag racing trick I could think of. I think this will be the conclusion of my stock 06 runflat experiment. The tires are all but gone and I just don't think there is anything left in her after this time unless I waited until next winter. In my opinion the only way this gets improved on is with that 1 in 100 60 foot time and perfect 1-2 shift and some great weather and even then it won't be much. A stock 06 Viper turning 11.50s in sea level weather is flat spanking it.

I also put away my first Z06 tonight to boot with an 11.76 @ 120.8 to his 11.83 @ 125.13. I got a good whole shot on him and held on for a nail biter but he was pulling on me like a freight train toward the end. Don't know if the car is stock or not.

I got very close to breaking my old 11.69 on the first pass and frankly if I wasn't carrying so much fuel I probably would have. I went 11.70 @ 121.45 after an extended cool down at the starting line because the guy right in front of me blew his radiator at 3/4 track so I sat for probably 20 minutes waiting for clean up.

I ran two or three more low 11.70s and decided to give the car an extended cool down and see if I could get that killer pass with the weather improving as the night went on. Track attendance was very light tonight so I went to the staging manager and asked if when I was ready to go he would let me pull up immediately and run. He said o.k. so the plan was on. I let her cool about 45 minutes. Usually cool downs have not worked for me because of reduced traction because the run flats cool off to much. For this run I did no less than THREE burnouts to bring them back up to temp. As I have mentioned before I do best normally hot lapping the car because the tires stay hot. Forget that crap about how it doesn't help a street tire. Any tire we run on a viper is alot closer to a racing tire than a normal street radial and they need heat. Period. If they sit more than 10-15 minutes you will loose traction, guaranteed. I pulled up, staged and the rest is history. Here is the pass:

Reaction Time .034
60' 1.805
330' 4.940
1/8 7.517
MPH 95.58
1000 9.719
1/4 11.572
MPH 122.41

Everything about this pass had to do with getting the maximum horsepower out of the car and the cool down did it. MPH was up about 1.6 MPH. The 1-2 shift was perfect with only a slight bark. Time to start modding the car. The Z06's better watch out, there is a new sheriff in town. LOL.

Twister,i thought you said your car had roller rockers ,filters ect..

 

[dragon rider]

Glad you did it bro. He'll yeah heating the tires up helps a lot. The cool down between run is also very important. Congrats. Our time slips are almost identical.

 

[Twister]

sorry for the misunderstanding...that was speed freaks story...not mine..Im still running mid 12's...LOL

 

[1BADGTS]

While I am a HUGE fan of Jamie/Evan...I have never heard of eighter of them doing anything remarkable in a gen3..

Sure Jamie ran 11.7 at 121 in his gen2 ACR and 11.59 at 123 after removing his air intake on his gen2 ACR..As well as his 10.9 in his gen4

Evan has his documented 11.7 in a gen 2....


But Ive never herd/read/seen anything from them in the gen3...A gen3 is a totally differant drag raceing machine than a gen2..And I imagine a gen4 with it's variable cam is a totally differant driving car 1/4 mile wise as well...

While I have nonthing but respect for them both....Ill have to go with someone who has actually ran the times in a gen3...

Speed frek comes to mind....And heres what he had to say...Keep in mind he has ran a 11.5 at 121-123 mph in a stock gen3 ...Guys got skills...



here it is, cant say I agree with his light theory..but everything else is worth a try

A very exciting night at the track and several interesting discoveries about drag racing a viper. Weather conditions were practically perfect: temps in the 40's, high pressure and low humidity. We don't get many drag racing days like this in Florida and it really makes it something. The track condition was excellent and several pro stock cars doing testing on this new track set world record times (one I watched ran 6.51 @213) but they don't count as there was no event they were participating in.

My expectations were high and was hoping to set some smoking times and sort out the MPH mystery. Well I did figure out the MPH mystery and it was totally by accident. One other thing that goes on with Florida racing is they often run at night because of the heat. It so happens that the track opens at 4:00 but racing usually starts around 5:00 to 5:30. That is dusk this time of year so it is dark pretty fast. My first pass was an 11.98 @ 120.04 at about 5:45 p.m. when it was still daylight. The car felt incredibly strong and the power shift from 1-2 was unbelievable and so violent I nearly put the beauty in the wall. Fish tailed and wheel hopped violently and left a lot of time on the table in the process. I decided to forego the 1-2 powershift in favor of a speed shift to better control the car and traction thereafter. This made immediate improvement and I clocked an 11.89 and then an 11.86 @ 121.61. The outside temperature was dropping fast now and the car just kept getting stronger and stronger. Next pass saw a mediocre e.t. but a 122.6mph (wow). On the return from this pass it was nearly dark so I turned on my lights on the return lane back to the pits and to pick up my slip. Didn't think much of it. Grabbed the slip and went straight back to line up. I got right back on and laid down the killer pass: 11.80 @ 120.3 with a 1.84 short time. I was fired up, but thought what in the hell happened to the MPH? Well guess what gang - IT WAS THE LIGHTS BEING ON. Believe it or not the headlights will cost you 2.3 MPH (that is over 20 HP at the wheels) in the quarter mile. I would have never believed it but it is true. Apparently those lights **** a hell of alot of juice and that big alternator is kicking on at the top end of the track. On my previous trip I ran entirely in the dark and had the lights on the whole time!!!!! 115.5 plus 2.3 equals 117.8 mph!!! which is where it should have been. I figured it out when I sat in line a long time waiting and killed the engine. When I restarted it I only turned on the parking lights and behold the MPH came up 1.7 on the next two passes. Sooooooo

Lesson 1: Full headlights costs 2.3 MPH in quarter and parking lights cost about .5 MPH. In my last pass I ran 122.9 with no lights on at all. Makes reading the tach tough but necessary.

Lesson 2: I most assuredly would have turned an 11.7 pass on my 11.80 @ 120.3 if I had had the damn lights off. Really pissed me off after I figured it out. I got close with an 11.82 and 11.84 after that but just couldn't quite make it come together again. Both these passes were with the lights on. So the best pass was:

60' 1.841
330 5.072
1/8th 7.709
MPH 94.31
1000 9.943
1/4 11.807
MPH 120.29

Lesson 3 - The runflat likes very little time between runs. If you can come straight back and get back on the track quickly, its traction improves markedly. It builds heat on the run (from the high speed, etc.)and retains some of that for a while. Also, the pressue in the tire will keep creeping up when you do this so check it often. Best tractions seems about 24-25 psi. I had much better luck doing this than going for prolonged cool downs between runs as most people do for improved engine power. Obviously, the engine makes all the power you need. It is getting it to the ground that is the challenge.

Lesson 4 - Burn out strategy. In keeping with above, do a double burn out. Go around the water, then back up to just ahead of it. Do a hard burn out (2-3 seconds) and then hit the brakes, wait a few seconds. You should still have enough room to do one more short burn out before staging. On this second one you will notice the tires get alot stickier. With this strategy you can leave aggressively at about 3000 RPM with full traction on launch and consistent 1.8 short times.

By the time I figured out the light mystery I got in only 2 more passes. Bummer, as I am sure I could have broke 11.7 if I had stuck around. Last run was 11.86 @ 122.99 with 1.89 short time. Another 1.84 or better and 11.7 something would have happened for sure. As I am writing this the density altitude at the track now is -1430 feet!

By 7:30 it was getting very crowded and I had to head home. They were running until 11:00, oh well. This may be it for me in a stock viper as I am going to begin modding the car with a gear change, etc. I am really impressed with this powerplant though. By my calculations this thing was making 515HP at the wheels toward the end (122.9 mph and 3600lbs.) Incredible.

Last question: How much do PS2s help traction. I was giving up alot of time on the 1-2 shift. If the PS2 would allow a good 1-2power shift even an 11.6 might be in the making.

Ps Smith has never ran a Gen 3 ,Furman might have made a few paSSES IN ONE .BUT here is the million dollar question Furman has a DOCUMENTED 10 SECOND RECORD IN A BONE STOCK Z06 SO YOU YOUR BASICALLY ADMITTING THEN a stock Z06 is over 6 TENTHS FASTER than a stock Gen 3 in a drag race.

 

[viper GTS-R]

How is Evan? I haven't seen the guy in years!

--RS

 

[1BADGTS]

How is Evan? I haven't seen the guy in years!

--RS

Are you the guy who as a kid i had Evan take you around Englishtown in my Gen 2 during a Zone Race? APPROX 10 YEARS AGO .Evan is very well he is now the Editor.They moved their offices to Floria but still do some work-testing ect in NJ(with family here the Smiths are up here often ) He also is a contributing test driver for Ford SVT (Research and Development on new models )so between that and mag work the guy must fly 100k miles per year .

 

[Twister]

Are you the guy who as a kid i had Evan take you around Englishtown in my Gen 2 during a Zone Race? APPROX 10 YEARS AGO .Evan is very well he is now the Editor.They moved their offices to Floria but still do some work-testing ect in NJ(with family here the Smiths are up here often ) He also is a contributing test driver for Ford SVT (Research and Development on new models )so between that and mag work the guy must fly 100k miles per year .

If I find out that YOU are Evan Smith one day we will have words sir...Mainly why you havent ran a 2003 srt10!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[1BADGTS]

lol No iam not him (as Viper GTSR will attest to ).

 

[1BADGTS]

Twister i do give you all the credit in the world though because you are actually one of the few who goes out there and races their cars to get times instead of relying on the all mighty dyno to TRANSPOSE NUMBERS INTO WHAT SOMETHING SHOULD RUN.

 

[Twister]

Im trying here...

Ive noticed that Im getting a check engine light while makeing these runs..Then after 3-4 start ups it dissapears..The previous owner removed the pre cats when he installed that titanium exhaust..I think the car is pulling timing and thats why Im only hitting 120 mph with more mods than when i used to hit 122 mph...

Hopefully the sct will eliminate this as Dan lesser says it will eliminate the 02 sensors...And the car will be good to go..Im hopeing this is the key

 

[viper GTS-R]

Are you the guy who as a kid i had Evan take you around Englishtown in my Gen 2 during a Zone Race? APPROX 10 YEARS AGO .Evan is very well he is now the Editor.They moved their offices to Floria but still do some work-testing ect in NJ(with family here the Smiths are up here often ) He also is a contributing test driver for Ford SVT (Research and Development on new models )so between that and mag work the guy must fly 100k miles per year .

yessir, I am!

Jeez it was 10 years ago? I miss the zone rendezvous, those were good times.

Funny how you mention that, I think about it everyday, how EVERYONE used to go there for the weekend. It was funny see the Dodge Ram vans and work trucks race on the track. As a kid it was special to me cause it's the big Mopar happening in Jersey, I couldn't wait every year. I'd get out of school on Friday and ride down to the Colts Neck Inn to see the cars up close and then go to Etown Saturday to watch the racing.

Then when the Rendezvous faded there was no reason for me to go cause I just wasn't into the older Mopars. Now I am, I love the older cars. I went to the Atlantic Nationals and discovered what an LX is in 07' cause I didn't want to hang around my neighborhood as there was a Corvette convention going on so I drove to the track and took some pictures, I was hit with that bunch right off the bat! Then I got my feet wet with my first car doing test and tune, traded that the following year in May of 08' for a Magnum. Today I race in the Modern Mopar Muscle race series, I won the 09' Atlantic Nationals last year and won 3 other events as well as placed 3rd overall in the series in my first year.

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--RS

 

[1BADGTS]

Man i miss that car .I sold it to my good friend EX Vca pres Joe Houss ( WHO NEVER DROVE IT )inturn he sold it to a guy in Lituania who totaled it in a few weeks.Back in the day it did pretty well in competition at the Atl Nts (the guy driving it though was kind of a ringer -would you say )I see your doing well your self at the track.If you ever need any Mopar stuff let me know as i will hook you up with Darren (Buhler )

 

[1BADGTS]

Ps do you remember the guy i used to race with by the name of Don Nace(one of his trailers in the background ).He went pro and set a NHRA Record for the fastest ever dragster pass running a 4 cyl .We had a lot of fun

 

[1BADGTS]

All in all its just a different time now, MONEY SO MUCH TIGHTER ,the mag guys are in Florida. If i get to Englishtown twice a year iam lucky .I grew up with all the Napp boys (Colts Neck )and buddy Kevin Markland is now the GM there but iam not so sure IF they would extend themselves today for the Vipers like they used to.They went out of their way above and beyond for us then..(some years 75 Vipers would show up ) 

 

[viper GTS-R]

Damn, that really *****! Gonna miss that car.

Yeah, next goal for me is to get the car in the 14's. I'm like one of four that race V6 LX's at the track, there's about six of us total across the nation that compete for records. I have the record for the fastest stock factory V6 LX. Alot of the guys that have been in the 14's already have used nitrous/supercharger with a Diablosport. The fastest recorded Super Stock N/A time is a 15.026.

Super Stock includes - CAI, Exhaust mods, PCM programming, Torque converter, Rear Gears, Throttle Body

I just recently I picked up a cheap set of Drag Radials which a friend of mine was using on his car (diablo, 42RLE trans, Airhammer) and he was running 15.1's. I've gone 15.3's on street tires, with just a CAI and exhaust mods. My car stock runs 15.5's. There's a 15.2 in the car the way it is for sure (I was playing with air pressure all night and on my final pass I forgot I was in 1st and screwed up the run), with the DR's and the diablo I could probably get that 14.9 being I have the better NAG1 autostick trans.

Not sure if I remember Don Nace but I remember everything that was parking in the pits! LOL If you or Evan ever get around to Etown let me know.

--RS

 

[1BADGTS]

Best OF LUCK KID (lol dont get too hooked and waste your money like i did though )

 

[1TONY1]

to a test to learn from Smith or Furman.

Send Jamie a PM (If you want i will call him for you )and ask him .

he (along with SMITH )are it.

Exactly when Evan tests

when Smith ran

I mean dead stock Jamie broke 10s and Evan in

Exactly as Evan cuts also .Furman is just as good.

Ps Smith has never ,Furman might .BUT here is the million dollar question Furman has a

i had Evan? Evan is. the Smiths are up here often

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[1BADGTS]

Tony if you ewanted to learn to drive on Pilots from the absolute BEST iam sure i could get one of the to SCHOOL you as well LOL.

 

[Paul Hawker]

Maybe your clutch is starting to slip just a bit.