Creampuff question

[VIPER BAZ UK]

Is a 2002 a creampuff?
What year did they run from and to?
BAZ

 

[Simms]

Yes, 2000-2002.

 

[VIPER BAZ UK]

Thank you..
Is it just the pistons that are different??
Just read the 2002 brochure and it says forged pistons..

 

[TomSlick]

I thought '99 also were creampuffs.

 

[Shelby3]

I thought '99 also were creampuffs.

Nope.

 

[LIRacer]

99 was the last year of the tuff engines...not that the creampuffs are really creampuffs. The Creampuffs ran smoother.

 

[TomSlick]

They do run smoother. But don't seem to have the power the older cars have. And they don't respond as well to bolt-ons.

 

[VIPER BAZ UK]

What was the differance between the two?????
Baz

 

[LIRacer]

the differnce was pistons and cam duration

 

[nofearracer]

There are 2 main differences between the 96-99 and the 00-02 engines.
1. The Camshafts in 96-99 had a more aggressive profile than the 00-02.
2. The 00-02 engines had lighter cast pistons in them to try and recover the power that was lost with the milder cam.
Hopes this helps.

 

[2002_Viper_GTS_ACR]

There are 2 main differences between the 96-99 and the 00-02 engines.
1. The Camshafts in 96-99 had a more aggressive profile than the 00-02.
2. The 00-02 engines had lighter cast pistons in them to try and recover the power that was lost with the milder cam.
Hopes this helps.

Actualy, thats not entirely true. The change to Hyperutectic (which has a high silicon content, making it stronger then cast) pistons was done for EMISSIONS and motor noise reasons, as was the cam shaft change. They had NO expectation of gaining power by going to Hyperutetic pistons, but did expect emissions to go down, and the engine to not make as much noise because hyperutetic pistons do not have as much torsional change due to heat, as forged pistons due, so they can run the clearances tighter on the pistons, which causes less emisssions, it ALSO makes the motors quieter as the piston is less likely to rock in the bore on cold start ups due to its closer fit.

 

[VIPER BAZ UK]

The 2002 brochure i have says it has forged pistons..

 

[Neil - UK]

what I dont like is 'tickety' noise at idle, unheard though with a few revs

 

[ViperRichRT10]

The 2002 brochure i have says it has forged pistons..

Well...They don't have forged pistons!

 

[VIPER BAZ UK]

Thanks..
Just checking still bought it anyway..
Just cant wait to get it here
Baz

 

[Andy 98 RT/10]

Do cream puffs and lumpy cams really have an difference in rwhp?

 

[2002_Viper_GTS_ACR]

Do cream puffs and lumpy cams really have an difference in rwhp?

Sure do.

My car (and many other 2000-2002) dynoed 410 rwhp, and most of the earlier versions would do 420+ rwhp. Did you really expect a cam change NOT to make a difference ?



Jon

 

[Dv8tor]

Is it benifical to do a cam swap only, or are the gains minimal and doing an exhaust upgrade at around same cost better? Is there more to doing a cam swap then just swapping the cam?

 

[Andy 98 RT/10]

I was pretty sure it did, just checking.