Someone took down the ACR 's 7:12 out of wikepedia!

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Maybe Lexus has pulled some strings or just complaining enough thats theres been no video evidence yet? I bet once the video is released the time will be reposted asap!!!
 
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"(cur | prev) 03:52, 19 September 2011 BsBsBs (talk | contribs) (66,345 bytes) (→Production vehicles: Viper entry unverified and unsourced, removed for the time being, see discussion) (undo) "

EIDT: also posted in the discussion

Viper ACR lap time Validation RequiredI intend to remove it because there is no credible sources for this rumour, not even information about the specifications of the cars that were used. Also as a side issue am wondering doesn't production vehicle imply that the vehicle is at factory default i,e the issue of tires used during the test, shouldn't they be the factory fitted specification? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.28.194.174 (talk) 23:21, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

I am always inclined to leave these up for a few days unverified, because actual verification takes a while. However, I could find no further proof, and challenges remained unanswered. Contacts at the Ring told me that Coronel was there last week, and went home. They had nothing on that listed Viper record. I guess we remove it until proof becomes available. BsBsBs (talk) 03:47, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
P.S.: please sign your comments. Thank you. BsBsBs (talk) 03:49, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
 
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It's still up there but as mentioned just needs verification, click on "citation needed" and you get a full explaination.


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20,600 m (67,600 ft)6:48Radical SR8 LMMichael Vergers19 August 2009Radical Sportscars[SUP][1][/SUP][SUP][2][/SUP][SUP][3][/SUP]
20,600 m (67,600 ft)6:55Radical SR8Michael Vergers28 September 2005Radical Sportscars[SUP][4][/SUP] Timed by Sport Auto [SUP][5][/SUP][SUP][6][/SUP][SUP][7][/SUP]
20,600 m (67,600 ft)7:11.57Gumpert Apollo SportFlorian Gruber13 August 2009Sport auto (Germany) (Article)
20,600 m (67,600 ft)7:12.132010 Dodge Viper ACR[SUP][citation needed][/SUP]Dominik Farnbacher13 September 2011Test conducted by SRT with Support by Tomball Dodge and Mintgen Motorsports (not official, no video)
20,600 m (67,600 ft)7:14.64Lexus LFA Nürburgring PackageAkira Iida31 August 2011Lexus conducted test. Video confirmed. Stock LFA with "Nürburgring Package". OEM Bridgestone Potenza RE070 tires. Additional Roll Cage was equipped. [8][9][10]
20,600 m (67,600 ft)7:14.89Donkervoort D8 RSMichael Düchting2006Sport auto (Germany) (Article)
20,600 m (67,600 ft)7:18Porsche 911 GT2 RSTimo KluckApril 2010[11] [SUP][8][/SUP] Manufacturer claim. Michelin Pilot Sport Cup Plus N2 tires.
20,600 m (67,600 ft)7:18.1Donkervoort D8 RSMichael Düchting24 October 2004Sport auto (Germany) (Article)
20,600 m (67,600 ft)7:19.63Chevrolet Corvette C6 ZR1 (2012)Jim Mero9 June 2011General Motors conducted test,[SUP][9][/SUP] base specification car with optional super-slick track DOT competition tires (Michelin Pilot Sport Cup Zero Pressure)[SUP][10][/SUP] and non-stock safety equipment, video confirmed.
20,600 m (67,600 ft)7:22.1Dodge Viper ACR (2009)Tom Coronel18 August 2008Chrysler and Motor Trend conducted test.[SUP][11][/SUP]
20,600 m (67,600 ft)7:22.68Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z06 (2012)Jim Mero23 June 2011General Motors conducted test,[SUP][12][/SUP] base specification car with optional super-slick track DOT competition tires (Michelin Pilot Sport Cup Zero Pressure) and Z07 package
20,600 m (67,600 ft)7:24Porsche 911 GT2 RSHorst von SaurmaSport Auto (11/2010)[SUP][13][/SUP]
 
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If you look at most of the things that the user who took the Viper time down has posted, he appears to be a Lexus fanboy. They are in denial. Big deal. Either keep putting it back up while someone who's entire life is dedicated to thinking that the LFA is the best, fastest car of all time, or wait until the time is verified. He'll have to eat his words then.
 
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Who cares, since when is Wikipedia the "Official Source" of anything.
 
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Who the F* used wikipedia? I am 27 and have never used it for ANYTHING. School and college doesn not allow any referance at all to wiki.

FYI if I found the Viper record on Wiki I would assume it was BS. Oppose to a legit website, like viperclub.org!
 
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Timnineside said:
Who the F* used wikipedia? I am 27 and have never used it for ANYTHING. School and college doesn not allow any referance at all to wiki.

FYI if I found the Viper record on Wiki I would assume it was BS. Oppose to a legit website, like viperclub.org!
Click to expand...

I'm 24 and used wikipedia a lot throughout college... Of course you can't cite it directly, but it's a great place to find a slew of relevant legitimate sources.
 
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Wiki is on on the first page results of every major search engine so that's what people tend to look at.
 
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if they keep taking it down, keep putting it back up. If it's the same LFA fanboy who's doing the removal, the wikipedia mods will IP ban his ass or lock the thread
 
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The manual doesn't say the extension isn't street legal. Just a warning about damaging the extension when used on public roads.

CAUTION: The track extension should only be used during closed circuit track events. Thetrack extension can cause premature damage to your vehicle if used on public roads.

Edit: Read the wiki reference to this article here:
http://www.compositesworld.com/articles/composite-wing-key-to-high-speed-stability

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That, Shinedling notes, is very difficult in a street-legal passenger car because of driveability issues and the fact that many existing front-downforce solutions extend outward from the bottom front and side of the vehicle in violation of federal bumper laws.

For track racing, the center strip is replaced with the “track extension,” another VHMWPE panel, which optimizes aerodynamic balance by extending the splitter to its full profile, 3.2 inches/80 mm beyond the car’s nose.
 
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What's interesting is someone completely removed the LFA time. :lmao: Also worth noting, the 2008's time is still listed in spite of having the "track extension" installed. Whoever the hater is that keeps moving/removing the Viper's time needs to remove that pesky GT2 RS time as well, no video proof of that run was ever posted.

20,600 m (67,600 ft)6:48Radical SR8 LMMichael Vergers19 August 2009Radical Sportscars[SUP][1][/SUP][SUP][2][/SUP][SUP][3][/SUP]
20,600 m (67,600 ft)6:55Radical SR8Michael Vergers28 September 2005Radical Sportscars[SUP][4][/SUP] Timed by Sport Auto [SUP][5][/SUP][SUP][6][/SUP][SUP][7][/SUP]
20,600 m (67,600 ft)7:11.57Gumpert Apollo SportFlorian Gruber13 August 2009Sport auto (Germany) (Article)
20,600 m (67,600 ft)7:14.89Donkervoort D8 RSMichael Düchting2006Sport auto (Germany) (Article)
20,600 m (67,600 ft)7:18Porsche 911 GT2 RSTimo KluckApril 2010[8] [SUP][8][/SUP] Manufacturer claim. Michelin Pilot Sport Cup Plus N2 tires.
20,600 m (67,600 ft)7:18.1Donkervoort D8 RSMichael Düchting24 October 2004Sport auto (Germany) (Article)
20,600 m (67,600 ft)7:19.63Chevrolet Corvette C6 ZR1 (2012)Jim Mero9 June 2011General Motors conducted test,[SUP][9][/SUP] base specification car with optional super-slick track DOT competition tires (Michelin Pilot Sport Cup Zero Pressure)[SUP][10][/SUP] and non-stock safety equipment, video confirmed.
20,600 m (67,600 ft)7:22.1Dodge Viper ACR (2009)Tom Coronel18 August 2008Chrysler and Motor Trend conducted test.[SUP][11][/SUP]

Length http://forums.viperclub.org/# Time http://forums.viperclub.org/# Vehicle http://forums.viperclub.org/# Driver http://forums.viperclub.org/# Date http://forums.viperclub.org/# Notes http://forums.viperclub.org/#
 
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I'd say, just keep posting it back in the proper section, maybe make some complaints to wikipedia moderators, etc. maybe get the thread locked or something
 
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