Russ.
I used a few peoples names/mods/dyno #'s if anyone I mention objects
to me using their info here please let me know and I will edit it.
Dan (early93viper) 412.48 RWHP, 472.09 RWT
no cats, High Flow muffler,K&N air
filters, smooth tubes AND THATS A GEN 1
Phil Lee 1994 RT with Roe high flow cat
and mufflers made 414.4 rwhp 484.8 rwtq GEN 1
Bill B 1995 RT edelbrock headers,tubes and filters
made 431 rwhp and 491 rwtq GEN 1 ALSO
Batboys 99 GTS with only Random Tek Exhaust, B&B
headers, high flow cats, K&N filters made 439 rwhp
and 490 rwtq
Rcdice's 2001 RT made BONE STOCK it pulled 425 rwhp and 455 rwtq
with NOTHING AT ALL DONE NO FILTERS ECT. also a creampuff
Waynes 2001 GTS BONE STOCK no filters no tubes
BONE STOCK made 429 rwhp and 461 rwtq AND ITS A
CREAMPUFF
Camfab's 2000 ACR put out 424 HP and 461 FT/LBS
with just a corsa cat back NOTHING ELSE, also CREAMPUFF
Len (SRTLEN) bone stock 04 put down 420 RWHP
and 510 RWTQ
EA6Bpilot;s 98 GTS made 464rwtq (could not his hp sorry)
with just borla cat back, HF cats and filters/tubes
Kenrick's 96 GTS made 452 rwhp and 512 rwtq with just headers/catback
tubes and filters
Paul Adams 1997 GTS with just smooth tubes/filers, headers.catback
and 1.7 rockers made 482 RWHP and 515 RWTQ (this was at a dyno day)
Iridium's BONE STOCK 99 ACR 424 rwhp and 470 rwtq
Egokilr's BONE STOCK 98 GTS made 453 Rwtq
VIPERSMADS (now supercharged vipermad) 97 GTS with tubes/filters and
straight pipe made 432 rwhp and 470 rwtq
Bob D's 98 GTS made 452 RWtq BONE STOCK
Viperkraz's 97 GTS made 456 rwtq BONE STOCK
or Russ are they ALL lying too or wait did they use a fantasy dyno too????????
now I know thats alot of dyno #'s and mods to look through so lets
make it easy on both of us and lets take 3 and diagnose them shall we?
take Rcdice's 2001 RT made BONE STOCK it pulled 425 rwhp and 455 rwtq
with NOTHING AT ALL DONE NO FILTERS NOTHING ECT AND IT IS BTW A CREAMPUFF
now from what your saying (lets say mine had the same #'s stock) 70mm TB's
modified air box, 3 "smooth tubes, S&B filters, jesel 1.7 rockers /w pushrods,
B&B catback,HF cars AND a vec 2 with many hours of dyno time tuning it by a GREAT
tuner, could not make up less then 80 RWHP and 122 RWTQ?? when Sean Roe's web site
even says they have seen gains of 60 hp and 115 TQ from his vec 2 ALONE.
ok now take Kenrick's 96 GTS made 452 rwhp and 512 rwtq with just headers/catback
tubes and filters, now in this case your saying that jesel 1.7 rocker /w pushrods
70mm TB's modified air box, tubes/filters, and the Vec 2 with hours of dyno time
could not make up 52 RWHP and 65 RWTQ??? again Seans site says they have seen 80RWHP
and 115 RWTQ. IN THIS CASE KENRICKS CAR IS ALOT STRONGER THEN MINE IF HE DID MY MODS
HE'S HAVE WELL OVER WHAT I HAVE.
now # 3 Paul Adams 1997 GTS with just smooth tubes/filers, headers.catback
and 1.7 rockers made 482 RWHP and 515 RWTQ (this was at a dyno day) now in THIS
case you'd be saying that the Vec 2 and hours of dyno time cant make up 22 RWHP and
62 RWTQ??? AGAIN look at what Seans site says they have seen.
This was all just from a few mins searching on this site I can search
deeper and on the VA but whats the point, I have made my point.
The bottom line here is this every cars diffrent and ever car pulls diffrent #'s and
reacts diffrently to mods, my #'s are uncommon not impossible.
P.S. Russ for the hell of it, remember when you
tried to tell me I don't know what I was talking about
when I said people have gained hp from switching from
belangers to B&B headers?? well first off let me tell
you that it was an AMAZING 38 RWHP and 70 RWTQ
that was gained from the switch and it WAS on a Roe
blower car that David Weaver tuned, so please get ahold
of him and call him a liar like you did me "if you have
the ****" (to quote you)