Radiator design

dave6666

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Not sure if I'm making statements here or asking questions or none of the above, but with my current Gen 2 radiator collection at three I started noticing some design differences. So I guess this is where you can either yawn and hit the back button, nod and go uh-huh, or add comments.

I've tried 2 brands of aluminum radiators that failed very quickly. More recent customers of those 2 brands have posted that those brands have been redesigned, but one of the 3-pass ones I have is an early generation - pre redesign - and would lose about 1/2 a gallon of coolant going to the Quickie Mart. It was removed over this past weekend. I also have a brand new Alan's 3-pass. It has always gotten good press, but I have not tried it yet. The 3rd one I have now, and what I put in the car a few days ago, is my 3-cored factory one. The factory radiator having never leaked in the 9 years I used it before re-coring it.

They always fail in the corners is my experience. There was some pretty good discussion in a recent thread about all of that and hence I started noticing that all 3 of mine are different in the corners. And here lies that gray area to this thread. Not sure if any of it means a darn thing, so this could just be trivial nonsense. Right down my alley! :rolaugh:

The factory radiator is below. Highlighted is the area I suspect may be key. To something.

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Looking even closer the offset I have the red line on, is that done that way to allow expansion and contraction - the yellow arrows?

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The next 2 pics are the Alan's on top and the failed 3-pass on the bottom. Very different looking.

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A different angle of the dead 3-pass you can see the frame restricts the core from expanding. At least that's how I see it.

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The Alan's at a different view too. I can't really say that big mess of weld there makes an expansion joint either, but is it?

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Finally, back to the Alan's on top and the other beneath it, look at the different fin counts.

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Now tell me what it all means :lmao:
 

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Hmm.... me thinks Dave finally put the pieces together about what I have been beating on my chest about in all of these radiator threads!
 

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seems like a "simple" fix if design started at the weak spots. how much volume / cooling would you lose redesigning those corners
 

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The easy answer is: it means you have way too much time on your hands Dave. Get back to work!

Yeah, I know I can't really add to this discussion.... (I'll butt-out).

However, I'll be happy to buy one of yours when the answer comes.


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2 years on my Allen's radiator in my gen 1 so far...
 
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