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    My Stock 06 Vert Does It Again With A New Best E.T. of 11.57 @ 122.41

    I agree. While I appreciate the confidence I am quite sure I would need practice in a GEN IV like any other car to turn some good times. I have mastered the Viper idiosyncracies but 100HP as well as the other differences in the car would take some time. Furman and Smith have been doing this a...
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    My Stock 06 Vert Does It Again With A New Best E.T. of 11.57 @ 122.41

    I think for the stock rims it a hoosier R6 but don't quote me on that. I have the same questions as I want to get some too. Maybe some others could chime in here that use them. Don't worry about short shifting with DRs on the car only if you run street rubber. Just hang on for dear life...
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    My Stock 06 Vert Does It Again With A New Best E.T. of 11.57 @ 122.41

    Twister, glad you brought this up. I forgot to mention this in my first long response. Although I agree with much of what Jamie, 1BadGTs, 9Ball and others have indicated about the Z, this is the one area I don't for many of the reasons you have stated. I have stated several times that if a Z...
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    My Stock 06 Vert Does It Again With A New Best E.T. of 11.57 @ 122.41

    No, I would sure like too. I have to go to Orlando this weekend. But I am hoping to attend some of the other events especially viper days and one of the keys drives.
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    My Stock 06 Vert Does It Again With A New Best E.T. of 11.57 @ 122.41

    Thanks Wanted! 11.51 at 120 out of an 02. Wow. Give some details. Tires used? Techniqued used? That is a great time.
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    My Stock 06 Vert Does It Again With A New Best E.T. of 11.57 @ 122.41

    Hey man, where you been hiding? I can always count on you for a spirited debate. LOL. I agree with you and I also think (but don't have any experience to say) that the drive by wire does not help the situation. FINESSE is very important the more power there is and the drive by wire seems to...
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    My Stock 06 Vert Does It Again With A New Best E.T. of 11.57 @ 122.41

    Yeah, I have been looking for you every time I have been out. You had the pleasure of spanking me good with an 11.50 something in your GTR to my 12.30 in my very first pass in my Viper. By the way I used your dyno guy you recommended a couple of months ago. Real nice guys. I came a day or...
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    My Stock 06 Vert Does It Again With A New Best E.T. of 11.57 @ 122.41

    You are exactly right and what I don't understand is why Viper owners continue to put themselves at this disadvantage when virtually every z06 I see has DRs ( AND THEY DON'T NEED THEM HALF AS BAD AS WE DO). I just don't get it. Maybe when I put a set on mine and turn some unexpected times...
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    My Stock 06 Vert Does It Again With A New Best E.T. of 11.57 @ 122.41

    Thanks to everyone for all the congratulations. I really appreciate it. I have kind of been the lone ranger out there for all this and its nice to know that people are as excited about breaking new ground. At the track its just me jumping up and down in the pits and everyone looking at me...
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    My Stock 06 Vert Does It Again With A New Best E.T. of 11.57 @ 122.41

    No short shift on second. I think that will help with gears and stock tires but with the stock gear I don't think so. An interesting point here, though, is that I have done this quick granny shift on 1-2 enough now that I do it reflexively without having to think about it any more. Then power...
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    My Stock 06 Vert Does It Again With A New Best E.T. of 11.57 @ 122.41

    Nine, I still want a go at the Z too. Will probably just rent one though as I would feel really bad if I messed up someone elses car. If I break it and its a rental, oh well! LOL. Plus then I know I'll get a stocker and can draw some accurate conclusions.
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    My Stock 06 Vert Does It Again With A New Best E.T. of 11.57 @ 122.41

    Jamie makes a good point here. I think quite a while back on a different thread I said that the average, and I emphasize average, stock Z06 and driver will run and 11.5-11.8 and the average stock Gen 3 driver will run and 11.9-12.2. I still stand by that. The Z06 DOES have some inherent...
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    My Stock 06 Vert Does It Again With A New Best E.T. of 11.57 @ 122.41

    By the way if someone will tell me how I will post this time slip in this thread. Don't know how though. Utahviper, I would like nothing more than someone to come out and video. Frankly its not near as much fun celebrating by yourself. All I could do is call my wife. She doesn't get quite...
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    My Stock 06 Vert Does It Again With A New Best E.T. of 11.57 @ 122.41

    Believe me Twister I was every bit as excited as you are. I think I said every expletive there is afterwards and nearly piled up the car going back to the pits I was so fired up.
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    My Stock 06 Vert Does It Again With A New Best E.T. of 11.57 @ 122.41

    Can hardly believe it myself but I turned a smoking 11.572 @ 122.41 at the track tonight. Conditions were very similar to last Wednesday when I set the other record but tonight I pulled out all the stops and used every drag racing trick I could think of. I think this will be the conclusion of...
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    My Stock 06 Vert Turns a New Best E.T. of 11.69 @ 120.82

    Hamrhead did you get to make any runs in the car with the mods you made but without the gears to compare? Interesting about your take on the PS2s. I was really hoping that would help quite a bit but sounds like not much. Maybe they shine more in the turns and in ride quality. Sounds like...
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    My Stock 06 Vert Turns a New Best E.T. of 11.69 @ 120.82

    I would almost bet money that without improved traction over the run flat it would be a wash at best. I think 60' would improve and be more predictable but it would all be lost in the 1-2 shift where the additional torque would really make traction a problem. But probably with PS2s (or other...
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    My Stock 06 Vert Turns a New Best E.T. of 11.69 @ 120.82

    Fantastic, Viperjim! Now I have additional motivation to see if I can trim mine a bit more! If I had only missed lunch that day and shed a little weight to gain that hundreth! LOL. I am encouraged to see there are some Viper owners out there that are trying to maximize the basic package before...
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    My Stock 06 Vert Turns a New Best E.T. of 11.69 @ 120.82

    I haven't really run against any Z06s yet. But I have watched many of them run. They are usually shooting for that killer time and spend alot of time in the cool down lane out of the main action. Then when they run it is usually against another Z. Based on the times I have seen, though, I...
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    My Stock 06 Vert Turns a New Best E.T. of 11.69 @ 120.82

    Thanks Jamie and no harm no foul. I shouldn't have made that remark in the first place. I think I missed my morning coffee and was suffering from withdrawal. LOL.
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    My Stock 06 Vert Turns a New Best E.T. of 11.69 @ 120.82

    Thats a loaded question because it is at the core of another thread or two on the Z06. There was a ZR1 there that ran 10.55 at 137. First ZR1 I have ever seen run. All in attendance, of course, swore it was stock. I said no way after listening to the idle and exhaust, etc. Turns out I was...
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    My Stock 06 Vert Turns a New Best E.T. of 11.69 @ 120.82

    I know exactly what you mean and always happy to run into a pontiac fan!! Try launching 400+ horsepower on some bias plys that have 6" of tread width! You are exactly right! Compared to that the run flat seems like a drag slick. LOL. I mean you can hardly start crying over 13 inches of tread...
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    My Stock 06 Vert Turns a New Best E.T. of 11.69 @ 120.82

    Damn, You have some power plant. Put some DRs on that baby and put the vettes where they belong - at the back of the line.
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