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    AMAZING PRICES on new Gen V

    DI can be a big PIA for tuning, considering that claimed SIX MILLION hours of Krigian analyses Tadge was bragging about a while ago. The advantages the Viper will have over any C7 permutation is the lower weight, multiport injection and of course real VVT and absence of that pathetic AFM...
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    AMAZING PRICES on new Gen V

    FREMONT not Fresno, unless you are trying to sabotage the sales:nono:
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    Is Gen 5 more suitable as a daily driver than Gen 4?

    My observations were from a showroom, on a very cloudy day so it was most likely the best scenario. How does this work BTW at night?
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    AMAZING PRICES on new Gen V

    LOL, k... I guess I lost then based on a "credible rumour". :rolleyes: Apparently you heard it through the (automotive) grapevine. :D Now, I think until someone can substantiate the rumours, why not enjoy the well documented Viper and its finally very affordable and reasonable pricing...
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    AMAZING PRICES on new Gen V

    Oh I do not know about it anymore... Come to think about it, maybe if the made out vaporware new Z06 greatness is taken as an actual fact, the prices on new Viper will be even more attractive? Ugh, cough, the new Z06 is the best car ever!!!:2tu:
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    Is Gen 5 more suitable as a daily driver than Gen 4?

    Ah good, then I wasn't imagining the lack of contrast on the display. Does it get worse in bright sunlight? I am used to tight interiors, I have no physical limitations not to fit in one, LOL. And yes, the visibility is not an issue in a weekend toy but it is important for a daily driver...
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    Is Gen 5 more suitable as a daily driver than Gen 4?

    Yes, I am pretty critical but also keep my "dirty laundry" separate. I have no intention of replacing the current Viper, if I get another one, I would have two. I already mentioned that faults can be forgiven as the price becomes more attractive, as long as I can use it daily. And think about...
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    Is Gen 5 more suitable as a daily driver than Gen 4?

    OK, I got in the new Viper today, quality wise, the car is leaps and bounds above the car I have, no question about. There is a mile of seat travel and seats are very comfortable. The shifter is super smooth and clutch way lighter than previous generation. The ease of entry is about the same...
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    AMAZING PRICES on new Gen V

    Hmmm, so you know the year of ZR1 being compared by Tadge or assuming again? As I said before, Tadge is a bull**** artist, he was quite vocal about ethanol being Stingray's "secret weapon", the guy has a history of making bull**** claims and lacks credibility, unless you spend your time...
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    AMAZING PRICES on new Gen V

    Gheez, this is not getting anywhere, is it? You know nothing about the actual "mule" and you do not know anything about the ZR1, yet, you go on mindlessly repeating what Tadge said. Maybe the new Z06 did it on ethanol? LMAO...
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    AMAZING PRICES on new Gen V

    I never claimed it cannot beat a previous record, you may want to read more carefully. I simply requested info on the actual ZR1 that was used as the benchmark. I think this is a fair question? Also, regarding that mule. How about some specifics? According to GM, Z06 comes with THREE LEVELS...
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    AMAZING PRICES on new Gen V

    I lost, hmmm. Says you or can produce some actual figures? Are they verified by anyone or is this another belief based on assurance? Feel free to post them, just make sure which level of new Z06 those figures apply to:2tu: Do you have the ring time for the base Stingray? If my memory does...
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    AMAZING PRICES on new Gen V

    Big yawn right here, it seems it is the other way around actually.
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    AMAZING PRICES on new Gen V

    Seeing the comments I see even here, including yours and select few others, quite a few. LMAO:D
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    AMAZING PRICES on new Gen V

    OK, let me pick: lower weight, Nurburgring time, 0-60 MANUAL VS. MANUAL and higher top speed. Let me know when you are ready for the wager.:rolleyes:
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    Is Gen 5 more suitable as a daily driver than Gen 4?

    Yeah, snow is definitely not my concern although temps tend to get into mid 20's occasionally as they did a couple of months ago. No, I have not driven one yet. I am trying to sit in one for starters to see how it fits me. The dealer actually offered to take it out and let me drive it but I...
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    AMAZING PRICES on new Gen V

    This is more BS from Corvette team. I do not know the details of the original ZR1 test they use for comparison or the specifics on this "mule". ZR1 went through changes in tires and suspension during its life cycle. Check the Nurburgring times changing for ZR1 over its life cycle. Typicall...
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    AMAZING PRICES on new Gen V

    When you proclaim how great the upcoming Z06 will be, it is my civic duty to point out a few things. And on the contrary, I let go long time ago. If you rely on Tadge's assurances to predict the outcome of Z06, it is only fair to point out certain things about the man behind it and his current...
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    AMAZING PRICES on new Gen V

    I'll be happy to place that bet actually. If you consider that the car will be superior because only the numbers that are better will be released while the inferior ones will be withheld, then yes, by all means you can claim the new Z06 superiority, LOL. And as I said, there is no surprise that...
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    AMAZING PRICES on new Gen V

    As I said, torque tube increases drive train efficiency and chassis rigidity and auto takes the launching skill out of equation, not to mention the new eLSD and better tire compound. I hope you do not honestly expect the same hook up ability from a Gen 2 car vs. latest Corvette with auto. Try...
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    AMAZING PRICES on new Gen V

    Torque tube makes the drivetrain more efficient, this is a given. The ET number is a result of increased stall speed and stickier tires, this is actually a given too. Again, try this with a Corvette with manual transmission. I suggest you look at the initial test in the magazines, they were...
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    AMAZING PRICES on new Gen V

    How about duplicating these times in a Stingray with manual transmission? Why would you be using drag strip as a place to verify car handling and effect of cold temperatures? I hope you are just joking here, LOL.
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    AMAZING PRICES on new Gen V

    maybe with some magic dust sprinkled on the new car? No doubt auto will be faster than the manual just like with the base Stingray since there is no way to raise the stall speed on the manual. LOL at Chevy budget on Corvette, I hope you honestly do not believe that part? Have you looked at...
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    AMAZING PRICES on new Gen V

    I suggest you do some research on the subject of Tadge Juechter bragging right before release of the new Corvette about the ethanol as the power boosting fuel and Stingray being designed to use it. This way, you do not have to rely on your memory which apparently does not extend that far. And...
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    AMAZING PRICES on new Gen V

    Well, why don't you question his "veracity" and more importantly so, his credibility? How is that extra power from ethanol working out in the new Corvette and handling in the middle of winter with summer tires? :D Nevertheless, let us enjoy talking about Vipers since it is a Viper forum:2tu:

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