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    What is the problem with Gen I and II Vipers??

    RockStar (really?): When did the Dupont Registry run this story? Do you have that issue handy? How many pages were devoted to this story? What were the criteria for establishing that the GTS was the 3rd best car ever? As for Craig, his posts have gotten way out of line and turned personal...
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    What is the problem with Gen I and II Vipers??

    It is common for people who do not know or understand the facts to resort to personal insults. Other than insulting Craig [I couldn't help myself] I have never resorted to such low brow tactics. "YouWish" [who calls me 'dude'] says that I'm stupid. "YouWish" calls me stupid and refers to the...
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    so if the SRT-10 is a better car...

    "Dirk do you even own a Viper? I sure hope you do with all the crap your talking. -------------------- 98 GTS VIPER " Yes, I proudly own an 04 srt-10. I drive it almost everyday. As for my posts being "crap": You earlier told Craig that his posts were 'rude' and you apparently recognized...
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    What is the problem with Gen I and II Vipers??

    ViperGTS asks: "How does it come that CAAP is "shut down" for the first time? " Answer: Because Dodge made waaay too many of them and have done absolutely no pr work. Remember, 100% of 2003 model were sold. Some bean counter at Dodge figured they could pump out a zillion more $80k+ cars...
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    What is the problem with Gen I and II Vipers??

    2FAST4U - I get your humor. You have to be careful with that on here, though. Nice car by the way. Y2K5SRT to the rescue, yet again. You make vipduh sound pretty frustrated and uninformed. Have a good thanksgiving. Hope everyone enjoys all of the Vipers, the ones with the bad toupee...
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    What is the problem with Gen I and II Vipers??

    Today at a gas station, not 15 minutes ago, my red SRT-10 was parked directly next to a red GTS. A woman and her son walked over and asked all kinds of questions, asked if the son could sit in the car. Then a car pulled off the road into the station just to look at the SRT-10. None of them...
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    so if the SRT-10 is a better car...

    Y2K5SRT - Thank you for the voice of reason, intelligence and fact. You've allowed me to stop posting replies to this ridiculous stuff. All I need to say now is, "Read Y2K5SRT's earlier post." Dirk
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    What is the problem with Gen I and II Vipers??

    vipah - thank you for the enlightened, intelligent post. I do 'realize' that this forum is both about and for Gen III owners. I don't 'run around' telling how great my car is, but what if I did? It is more telling that you feel a compulsion to lurk on the Gen III forum, hiding behind your...
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    What is the problem with Gen I and II Vipers??

    v10kingsnake said, "dirk, you make me soooooo mad i don't know where to start. first off, how could you say all the crap regarding the looks and performance on the gen 1/2 " Please read the entire post. If you do then you will see that I was not bashing the Gen I/II, I was pointing out how...
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    What is the problem with Gen I and II Vipers??

    Looks are subjective. 100%. They can't be measured or quantified so yes, luc, looks are 100% subjective. What are the "timeless designed cars"?? You say it is FACT that 99% of them are "curvy/round" Again, subjective. Not a FACT, this is your opinion. If you say that the new Viper is...
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    What is the problem with Gen I and II Vipers??

    This thread inspired the thoughtful discussion that I intended. Some are able to contemplate how tactless the posts bashing the SRT-10 were. Some can actually understand that the posts bashing the aesthetics of the car were not well taken by most who actually own one. Some can understand that...
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    What is the problem with Gen I and II Vipers??

    Damned Viper Joe and PervrtJet- didn't you read the whole post?? I love the Gen I/II cars. Go back and read the whole post. But, your reaction, again, proves my point. DC
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    What is the problem with Gen I and II Vipers??

    Your OPINION is that the styling is the weak point. "There is no doubt that the SRT-10 weak point is the styling" Wrong. There certainly is doubt. Your opinion is not fact. I prefer the styling of the SRT-10. Many others do as well. Because you or others prefer the styling of the Gen I/II...
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    What is the problem with Gen I and II Vipers??

    I never said that their opinions didn't matter. And what I said about a lack of tact is displayed when you call my mentality 'child-like.' I don't enjoy the car any less just because others don't like it. I do enjoy this forum less because a few Viper owners choose to bash the SRT-10 on...
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    What is the problem with Gen I and II Vipers??

    I thought about purchasing one, even after having the horrible experience of driving a GTS for 2 months. I thought it would be nice to have one to thrash around when I wasn't driving my Gen III. I keep reading the horrible reviews about these cars. I read that they are unreliable and have...
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    What's wrong with the SRT10??

    Re: What\'s wrong with the SRT10?? Sylvan answered the question: "thats what happens when you up the production from 1800 per/yr to 2600-2800 per/yr there are only so many buyers for this type of vehicle. that and too many dealers think a viper on their lot is actually a piece of gold"...
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    so if the SRT-10 is a better car...

    As you can gather from my other posts I think they got the look of the SRT-10 right. I don't think it looks like a Vette and I do think it looks exotic. A lot of people agree with me. I do think that if DC offered superchargers or turbo options then they'd sell like crazy. I know I'd buy...
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    so if the SRT-10 is a better car...

    BadVenm - Your comments have all been enlightened. You haven't said, "Hey guys your cars are ugly and they suck." That isn't the most sensitive attitude, especially here at the home for those of us lucky enough to own a Gen III. You have said that personally you preferred something else. Big...
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    so if the SRT-10 is a better car...

    Janni - there may be nothing sexier than a GTS or RT ....to you. The Gen III may not stir YOUR soul like the Gen I or II. Different people have different likes and dislikes. It is fair to say that most who own a Gen III prefer it. I do. Nothing is sexier than an SRT-10....to me and nearly...
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    so if the SRT-10 is a better car...

    Very few of us who own the SRT-10 are not impressed with the looks. Yes, it is different from Gen I and Gen II. I said DIFFERENT not INFERIOR or SUPERIOR. Personally, I think the look of the SRT-10 is more exotic than the previous cars. I prefer the look. I can prefer the look without...
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    so if the SRT-10 is a better car...

    The Viper has lost none of it's raw appeal. More power, better handling, better braking....these are not reasons that cause people not to buy it. That is ridiculous. I'll bet if they would just remove the airconditioning, the power steering and put in really uncomfortable seats then more...
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    so if the SRT-10 is a better car...

    The SRT-10 is a better car. I have one. Drive one. Rub on it and sit in it every single day. I can tell you it IS a better car. In fact, I think it is one of the finest cars ever made and is a tremendous bargain at $80k. I hate the bashing of the SRT-10 by Gen I and GenII owners (and a 16...
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    Dodge better pick up the hp.

    "Yeah, its a $80,000 car that gets trounced in every way by a $60,000 car, BUT ITS RARE!!! HAH!!!)" On what do you base that opinion? What kind of torque numbers will the new vette put out? (Assuming it is produced according to the specs above) How will it handle? Why do you think it will...
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    Dodge better pick up the hp.

    "I hate to say it, but it looks like the SRT is just going to become a slower, worse-handling, american car than the high-end Corvette." Even if the new Vette manages to be produced anywhere close to the numbers you've quoted (which I still doubt based on GM's previous history) then it still...
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    HEMOTOX - A Black Mamba: The Undoing of Ralphie’s Rehab

    Re: Ralphie’s Rehab "If she was writing it in spray paint on the side of your house I could understand your anger. But this is the internet for God's sake, on a lousy little forum that is supposed to be about Viper ownership" Now that is funny. I read your posts Alice. I've even printed a...
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