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    Gen V ACR Needed For Ring Time

    Can't argue much with that. But it's not going to be as easy as show up for a day and leave with the record when manufacturers are now building cars just to blaze ring times. And they have a million dollar car to do it with. The hypercar wars have just begun. SRT best get their moneys worth...
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    Gen V ACR Needed For Ring Time

    An RSR? Not even remotely street legal. There are two Viper race cars now. The GTS-R and the GT3-R that you can buy, both will be akin to an RSR and not street legal. In addition, SRT could make another ACR-X which is just like a cup car, but much much cheaper, add sequential. But still not...
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    RIDICULOUS.....

    If SRT were able to test as rigorously as Nissan, the Gen IV ACR would be even closer, if not ahead to the Nismo prototype car. There is still more on the table in the ACR and X. In fact, let SRT make a prototype with questionable legality for road driving and they would beat that time in the...
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    Gen V ACR Needed For Ring Time

    I think we would both be guessing to say which is more important, but would probably agree that they do in fact work together. My point is one of diminishing return on investment. How much more does your impractical, unobtanium for most, all out Viper do for the brand at a 6:59 than my...
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    Gen V ACR Needed For Ring Time

    G5 owners benefit from ring times? I don't see any appreciable benefit to that. SRT will find a much bigger benefit winning USCR, FIA GT etc. and building a world class program to support the Viper and other SRT vehicles. Go and build/buy/rent a shop at the ring and keep SRT cars there...
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    Gen V ACR Needed For Ring Time

    A far better question is why would it need to be and who is that gong to benefit? The answers are it doesn't and pretty much no one. Plus it makes zero financial sense to build a model guaranteed to lose money based on volume limit alone. The car i describe with much less money invested...
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    Gen V ACR Needed For Ring Time

    Doubt they would need an extra 30-40 k to make the Gen V ACR dominant. The Gen IV ACR was barely more expensive at all. Add Motion Control Coilovers to stabilize the ride, put some big downforce on it, reduce weight, add Trofeo R or MPSC and..... Game over! Heck you could do without the...
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    Gen V ACR Needed For Ring Time

    Wow, really? Then I stand corrected if that is really the case. Sounds like some high 1:40's on A6's with a pro driver and like you said, low 1:50's bone stock. Any videos of the instructors lap?
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    Gen V ACR Needed For Ring Time

    Nobody was setting any privateer records the first couple of years it was out. The biggest thing was the one lap of America with Chris Winkler driving. Can't remember which year. And this was the ACR, not the non-ACR Gen IV which is we have a non ACR Gen V here. The Gen IV wasn't blowing any...
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    Gen V ACR Needed For Ring Time

    Good point boxer. A car that isn't available to the public can't have any records for production cars, because it's not in production. Would be great if SRT waited until right before the Nismo was to ship and went over there and beat up on it. That would be the awesomeness. I would totally...
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    Gen V has it's work cut out for it at the Ring...

    Lighter is easy on a GT-R, change the wheels and super heavy runflats, exhaust, racing seats, battery and you'll easier be lighter than the Nismo. The aftermarket is no longer a bunch of hack jobs throwing stuff together. I bet you if you take your Gen 3 or 4 Viper to Archer racing, and give...
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    Two new TA articles

    EXACTLY!!!
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    Gen V has it's work cut out for it at the Ring...

    It's a lot easier to just buy a GT-R, add a wing, front splitter and ohlins and tune yourself. Probably spend 15-20k tops. Whose gonna buy one and really push it with the astronomical upkeep on a GT-R if you track it + the already really high msrp? Not many at all. Meanwhile, if SRT had more...
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    First 2014 Billet Silver Viper

    +1 chrome is more played out than anything. See chrome on a sports car and you automatically assume the driver isn't going anywhere fast. See black wheels and you are morel likely to have a battle on your hands if you try them. Even high polished wheels are played out to be honest. You can...
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    No Viper in Road and Track Performance Car of Year???

    That is the contradiction that's costing sales. The SRT and GTS were an attempt to make a car designed originally for the hardcore fit the masses. It seems they have successfully kind of landed in no man's land, the area in between. Still too hardcore for the now much softer, spoiled masses...
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    Gen V has it's work cut out for it at the Ring...

    Give it some time bro, the car just came out. The factory ACR records weren't set until 2010-2011 and most of which with an updated version of the ACR when the Gen IV ACR had been out since 2008. ZERO lap records were set by SRT with a non ACR. Also I think most of the records were set with...
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    Gen V has it's work cut out for it at the Ring...

    You must have missed the part where it was different drivers, different day, different conditions. The times are way to close to draw any conclusions about a ring time or even same day same driver testing, of which the TA has not had yet other than the other variations of the Gen V. But...
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    Gen V has it's work cut out for it at the Ring...

    I completely disagree. 40 hp is next to nothing on a track for a one lap blast. And even still, the Gen V hasn't been showing all that much more straight line speed than the Gen IV in acceleration tests (I.E. trap speeds). What you can't get around is the massive DF, adjustable coilovers and...
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    Gen V has it's work cut out for it at the Ring...

    Point taken. Although the GT-R is the nearest practical vehicle threat to eclipse the ACR's ring record. Seems to me though that if SRT can field a team in ALMS which costs major money, they could use 100k (probably less?) to get some ring times for their vehicles. I honestly don't think the...
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    SRT is trying to get our feedback.

    Hey, go back and read the posts before you judge someone. I've been an avid supporter of SRT and still am. But the Viper is not selling well, and it's likely going to be non-existent if something doesn't change. You call this doing what needs to be done? An event where the people they want...
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    SRT is trying to get our feedback.

    This is sad, the poor Viper isn't being given a chance. I think they need to use whatever budget is left for the vehicle and upgrade every Viper to TA specs. They are having a hard enough time selling one variation let alone 3 now. When a car is low production and was already struggling, it...
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    Gen V has it's work cut out for it at the Ring...

    I'm not talking about Grand Am cars running that power, I'm talking about GT-R's running similar times as Grand Am cars. I don't know much about that particular car, but the ones on the east coast, Notably the Catesby/Forged GTR and the Topspeed GTR are full street car interior cars with 900...
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    Gen V has it's work cut out for it at the Ring...

    They don't because guys throw money instead of driving talent at them. But a 900 hp GT-R with aero that is well driven is Grand-Am GT fast for a couple of laps. The Topspeed GT-R that has won the One Lap of America the last several years is proof of that. 1:23 at Road Atlanta on Slicks (Grand...
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    Viper production slowed by one third due to sluggish sales

    IMO the TA should have been how the Viper came standard. The Performance, the aero, everything. It's got more visual appeal, is more aggressive, and would have done a lot better in the mag tests. From the media with poor mules, to dealer inadequacy, the Viper has not been given a fair shake...
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    Gen V ACR performance speculation...

    That still has nothing to do with comparing to cars that race competitively. Any semblance of those days are long gone. This is the era of faux racing. People want to look the part, but still ride in comfort. Which is why all of the manufacturers are catering to it. The older crowd that buy...

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