You cany explain it can you .
Dynoed my Viper today 612 RWHP 619 RWTQ! 91 pump gas!
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You still havent answered my post .
Answer the question POSER.Are you saying this guy without ANY power adders is making more power than a worked blower car running 8-10 lbs of boost.
Yes i did YOUR THE LIAR untill the MAN comes on here (himself )and tell me he ran that time on motor alone.You seem to speak alot for him .
Its already been done, so are you calling LPE and Norman a bunch of liars?
Why would they want to come on here to prove anything? The run was on video.
Especially prove to some little 2008 registered vette troll.
I am saying this publically AGAIN let HIM E MAIL me for my number and i will get the car TESTED BY Mopar Performance UNDER THE CONDITION that it runs 9.4 at 146 mph on all motor.Over the years i raced i provided this mag along with Muscle Mustang and Fast Ford with a few test Vipers.
Fool,the video can not possibly tell you if the man was running Juice..
99 R/T 10
Enthusiast
My bad, I am looking for the vid now and it might be 145, but might be higher. Here is the 142MPH run:
9-sec all motor LPE Viper. Not sure of the hp numb- Video
Lets also go back to your quote
"i dont care what you do to a Gen 2 engine on motor alone NA a current Gen Z06 with simple bolt on mods can put a major ass whoppin on almost any Gen 2 out there NA .."
Well, until we see a 9 second naturally apirated Z06. Norman's LPE built gen2 Viper is still the King.
"i dont care what you do to a Gen 2 engine on motor alone NA a current Gen Z06 with simple bolt on mods can put a major ass whoppin on almost any Gen 2 out there NA .."
Well, until we see a 9 second naturally apirated Z06. Norman's LPE built gen2 Viper is still the King.
BOYS I JUST CALLED LPE .(260)724-2552 i SPOKE TO RYAN Call me yourself if you doubt me.The BEST ANY car has EVER run on all motor alone is 1.2 at at 135 MPH .fULL SLICKS , SHOCKS FRONT SWAYBAR REMOVED.On stock tires the car ran 11.0 at 133 .Mentioned any LPE cars faster than his had POWER ADDERS.
EXCUSE ME TYPO=10.2 at 135
Naturally asperated on street tires my old GTS was one of the fastest Vipers out there on motor alone.The best it EVER ran (and this is a car that won 4 straight Atl Nat Titles in the modded Division on street tires )was 11.2 AT 131.9.Stock Gen 4 Vipers and stock Z06 have bettered that.A stock Z06 with slicks and Skinnys is easily into the 10s right driver.Jamie Furman bone stock in his Z06 has run 10s on stock tires.Furman in his new acr has run 11.0.Bone stock.Smith in my Gen 4 has run 11.3s bone stock.
Not a doubt in my mind it was done not without NITROUS though.
Pretty interesting usually the tuners that market these packages post their BEST POSSIBLE TIMES.IN THIS CASE THE TUNNER is claiming a time thats .8 and 11 mph slower than what you guys claim.The tuner also said flat out ant times better than 10.2 at 135 were obtained using Nitrous .
Let me tell you guys something if it appears i take this stuff personally i do .For years i raced my old GTS in many a VCA sponsered event.A ton of money (over 40 grand was spent on the engine alone )and the car was driven by some of the best professional driver in the country (Evan Smith ,Kenny Miele -Both numerious NHRA record holders )and guys that should be pros (Jamie Furman )To have some kid sitting,hiding behind a computer that has NEVER been to a track in his life with a car (quoting other peoples times )is nonsense.
wastntim
Enthusiast
What is a safe A/F ratio on a NA car with this type of HP?
Max power 13-13.5 Max dependency 12.5
I didn't say 800+ crank hp, I said 600rwhp. The post was about 612 rwhp going mid nines. Since my car wnt 10.5 with less hp on street tires I'd say that my car would have gone high to mid nines with slicks.
Sorry, I wasn't agreeing with badgt.
Since Prostocks are going ...what ... 6 secs? I'd say that a 488ci perfromance designed engine could easly go faster than all the V8s in Prostock - if allowed into that class. Pro stocks are not allowed power adders and they are all n/a. They also went 7 sec. way back in the 70s.
Since it's so easy to make huge hp with complete reliability with a sc, TT or Nitrous most people choose that way to add power. It just makes common sense ... unless money isn't a factor.
Ted
Sorry, I wasn't agreeing with badgt.
Since Prostocks are going ...what ... 6 secs? I'd say that a 488ci perfromance designed engine could easly go faster than all the V8s in Prostock - if allowed into that class. Pro stocks are not allowed power adders and they are all n/a. They also went 7 sec. way back in the 70s.
Since it's so easy to make huge hp with complete reliability with a sc, TT or Nitrous most people choose that way to add power. It just makes common sense ... unless money isn't a factor.
Ted
Simms
Enthusiast
A little off topic, but didn't SW run a 9.X all motor in his red GTS years ago (back then I believe it was an RSI stroker).
I know he and Norm were racing to see who could get to the 9s all motor first.
I know he and Norm were racing to see who could get to the 9s all motor first.
Bullet488
Enthusiast
I can't speak for the owner, but I'd be happy to wager on the numbers..
I personally drove the car to a best time of 9.48@145mph (high mph of 148.xx).
NO Nitrous.. NEVER had it.. ALL MOTOR.. On slicks.. T-56 6-speed.. IRS.. etc.. etc..
Regarding LPE, Ryan is the newest sales guy and quoted the street 542ci magazine times on street tires.
If you want facts regarding Norms car, talk to Tim Dyer (Sales Mgr) or Graham Behan (Chief Engineer).
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Greg Good Cylinder Heads
Enthusiast
There's nothing shady about that time or mph. The car has a lot of compression, race gas, pretty good sized cam, no exhaust system, etc. It runs what it should.
I saw it run 9.40's at Bradenton a few years back.
Scott and Norms reputations speak for themselves.
I saw it run 9.40's at Bradenton a few years back.
Scott and Norms reputations speak for themselves.
kllymartin
Viper Owner
Well, there you have it. I was in Bradenton when the 9.48 run happened, and there was no evidence of N20. NTM, I know of a handfull of Vipers making 600+rwhp without a power adder.
Like I said. Our Z06 fanboi 1BAD GTS is a complete troll. I spoke with Kevin at LPE, and he told me that Norman's Viper ran that time without any NOS, ALL MOTOR. Norman has the 542CID engine package. One of the 2 engine packages LPE currently offers.
Viper4Christ
Enthusiast
Right...so if the HP calculator says it well then it must be true.
Besides being an eyewitness to the pass... 9.48@145 I was also present for many other 9.7XX passes with the same car. The point of the car has always been to run fast with no power adders ever since it was a Venom build in 99.come on man, think for a second... how could another friend of mines TT car run 8.75@141? Give up?
Go hard off the line up to the 1000 foot mark then jam the brakes so the MPH drops considerably. The motor only RT has lower MPH because it doesn't have a power adder to help on the top end so it "dies off" so to speak at the end. Also driveline upgrades to increase power to the ground or reduced weight throw the "hp calculator" way off, its only a tool to get a general idea of what a car MIGHT do in perfect conditions.
The attitude of "If my friends or I cant do it, it must me impossible" is ridiculous to say the least.
99 R/T 10
Enthusiast
Hey, where did 1BAD go????????????????????????
Hey, where did 1BAD go????????????????????????
I think he had a "Does Not Compute" moment and his brain spontaneously combusted when the timeslip was posted.
I'm CERTAIN he'll be back.