I said same generation, so yes, the '04 etc. gets no credit for being the king of the hill.
You guys are very sensitive. I guess you are just really in touch with your feminine side. Who is bashing? Just pointing out the facts. Just because you are in denial isn't my problem.
It started...
It gets no love because it gets a whooping from a stock Vette of the same generation.
Bring back the king of the hill, then you'll see love.
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Re: VIPAIR™ Dyno Results on 99 RT 16 RWHP!!
My housekeeper is running a Vipair. She can pick up twice the dirt versus any other dustpan.
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This is a sad picture for sure! Remember when they first introduced the Viper and all the crowds gathered around staring at it in awe? Look a all the people just walking by not even glancing at the car!!
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First of all these were not done side by side on the same day. Second, why is stepping on the brake pedal, by a human being (different ones likely in this case) driving by a cone have no margin of error?
Since when is the no margin of error in ANY test. You should stay in school my friend...
You guys are in denial. These numbers pretty much show a dead heat (10' in breaking and .2g is prbably in the margin of error). Viper was caught, and is doing nothing to move ahead (or so it appears) by a car that is $20k+ cheaper.
When in the past was it even a question who the king of the...
I just got my issue of C&D and they have a 3.6 0-60 time for the Z06. 1/4 mile in 11.7.
If that is poor times, I can't imagine what a good driver could do.
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The Viper registry only showed SRT number for '03, which are in line with production since the late 90's. If this were the case for '04 and '05 then it would seem that sales are 'way off' since there still seem to be lots of 'new' '04s available.
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The problem is that now bean counters are running the show and image doesn't add into the equation. They only look at the bottom line. Since there are no risk takers it is an easy decision to make, and no one will get fired for cutting a product that isn't making money. On the other hand if...
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It is truly a sad day when Viper wants to compare brakes with the competition.
Boy, how the mighty have fallen.
Oh yeah, I'm not supposed to say anything that might offend the guys in the plant. Oops. They must be mighty proud of the brakes.
Ok, flame away.
LMAO
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You hit the nail on the head. For some reason it seems that the SRT guys don't want to hear anything bad about the cars and would prefer to ignore it.
I know when I got my GTS everyone was screaming how crappy the brakes were. They were right. I didn't care, I still love my car and learned to...
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My concern is not with the guys on the line, my concern is with the executive team at DC. I just get the sinking feeling that they don't care and will not support the team with what they need to go and kick the Z06's butt. The post about the need for $30MM and...
Re: The Real Facts about
You certainly are confused. There are many people on my 'bandwagon', and the real vote will be with their wallets. Why do you think Bill is trying to hype the coupe? He wants sales and knows that the performance alone isn't going to do it (my belief until he...
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Wow, seems like I hit a nerve. Never enough for me? You mean the fact that they re-ran a test and came out with better numbers should be enough?
I love Vipers, that is why I want to see them clearly back on top.
So I am stirring the pot to try and get a ground...
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If we are going to make some sports analogies I would propose this as more accurate than those earlier:
New Coupe vs. C6 Z06: Currently we have two heavyweight prize fighters. One is a half inch taller, and a few pounds heavier. From other fights it appears the...
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True, Viper has, by the skin of its teeth, retained top spot in HP.
The margin is so small though that it is insignificant. The performance numbers that the test Z06's have been putting down beat the Viper. Yeah, we'll see what happens with the cars that hit...
Re: Z06 is a compelling alternative to Ferrari, Porsche, Aston Martin, Lamborghini, Maserati and Ford GT
I think you are partially right. Corvette has telegraphed their next move. Beating them to the punch is the way to go, and coming out with something badder right after the introduce...
Re: Z06 is a compelling alternative to Ferrari, Porsche, Aston Martin, Lamborghini, Maserati and Ford GT
1996 coupe to 2006 coupe = 10 years
This is irrelevant though. The reality is that Chevy had been talking about this car for about 2 years, and the DC 'intelligence' team should have had...
Re: Z06 is a compelling alternative to Ferrari, Porsche, Aston Martin, Lamborghini, Maserati and Ford GT
The Viper marine program = Viper is sunk
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Shhhhhhh. You might wake someone at DC.
Well at least they are doing something. It looks like the DC guys are just hiding under their desks.
I would also read into Hill's comment about 'exhausting the limits of this engine' to mean they will be coming out with a new power plant in the future. Always expect the most from the...
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