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    any news besides this from the ny auto show

    you are missing the kool aid factor:D What impresses me the most about C7 is the salesmanship of Juechter and others. This guy is good, really good, blowing smoke that is... The fact that there are so many believers out there, including Viper owners, makes it even better.
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    any news besides this from the ny auto show

    How come you are the only guy here that gets this stuff? Asking rhetorically, of course.
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    any news besides this from the ny auto show

    Actually, it cannot be, at least not in a comprehensive way as the previous generation of Corvette was. Tuning a car with DI and cam phaser with 62 deg is not that easily done, not to mention the matter of emissions. This is actually a big misconception. This is also a reason why there is only...
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    any news besides this from the ny auto show

    Must be nice, LOL. I set my bar lower, a slightly used one and with manual transmission although I am still hoping a Rossion shows up in the meantime. Dealing with Porsche dealers is considerably more enjoyable than with Chrysler salesmen, I already figured this one out. As to heat soak in...
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    any news besides this from the ny auto show

    Go to the movies. The stupidity of this situation is right down impressive: I pointed out factual problems with the new CORVETTE Z06 only to see people like you attack me, here, on VIPER forum. I was not criticizing the Viper, in fact, I was pointing out its superiority but apparently you and...
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    any news besides this from the ny auto show

    Ignorance is bliss as already documented by your statements regarding Viper and Corvette hood vents. You my friend should learn the difference between vents and heat extractors but thanks for making arse of yourself in the meantime. LMAO.
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    any news besides this from the ny auto show

    The facts are irrelevant to this group of (former?) Viper enthusiasts. I think they all will be selling their Vipers in a hurry. The sky is falling for them. LMAO.
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    any news besides this from the ny auto show

    Thanks for your OPINION on the subject then.:omg: To make clear, I do not hate Corvette, I hate what pathetic turn it took lately.
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    any news besides this from the ny auto show

    LOL, now, ain't this ironic, Viper owners defending a Corvette. Maybe I do have a bit of a clue regarding aerodynamics. Feel free to educate me here regarding the Cd of Z06, the disclosed downforce and few other minor details. Maybe you should nderstand the differences between the differences...
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    The competition; Gen V vert needs to happen soon

    Looks are very subjective. Personally, I seriously doubt this car will come close to the last ZR1. Until you see some independent testing done, I would wait announcing Viper or ZR1 demise. The only way this car can stomp over anything is if laws of physics and aerodynamics can be defied...
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    any news besides this from the ny auto show

    Are you guys drinking GM kool aid heavily? This car is heavier and less powerful than the last viper, uses power robbing and heat sink producing supercharging and it looks like someone knocked it out in the parking lot of the nearest Auto Zone store, especially those fender extensions. This...
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    2014 GTS Carbon TA...

    And if you want to duplicate the look, you can have someone wrap your car as well. 700 hp would speak louder than pimp my ride appearance.
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    Rebate on ge 5 coming this week

    What I see, especially lately, is that there is a very faint difference in pricing between SRT and GTS which at least for me, not only makes no sense but also serves as a very effective brake in considering a purchase. I hope I am in minority here, for Viper's sake. After seeing Burger...
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    Rebate on ge 5 coming this week

    I talked to those people about the white car, they sent me a note that someone will be getting back to me but nobody did. What stopped me from pressing the issue were the stripes on that car, I do not like stripes and paying 4500 for what I do not like does not appeal to me to much so I let...
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    Rebate on ge 5 coming this week

    I do not know how to insert location in my signature but anyway, I am in California so dealing with in state dealers.
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    Rebate on ge 5 coming this week

    So what is the bottom line here? There are no rebates anywhere and no rhyme or reason to dealer specific discounts, with pricing all over the board. The dealers that have the car I want to buy are real jerks amounting to a GTS costing about the same as the very basic SRT which I want to buy...
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    sad news...viper plant shuttered until end June.

    try this instead of your Silky Johnson. Calling someone a hater is an excuse to avoid reality check. Ask Corvette nut huggers how this works out. I am allergic to marketing BS and simply point it out. I do not hate Viper at all, just not in the habit of mistaking lipstick for progress. I...
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    sad news...viper plant shuttered until end June.

    I hope you do and get it right this time :2tu:
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    Hot Tip...Buy the Gen V Collectible while you can still afford to

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    sad news...viper plant shuttered until end June.

    No discussion, just exchanging a message with him about bad buying experience. Do you have a problem with outspoken people? I was polite enough not to comment here. And karma? The way things go, more like a prophecy coming to a full fruition. Oh and thanks for bringing it up, certainly...
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    sad news...viper plant shuttered until end June.

    If there is no effort to sell the current cars, the factory may not reopen in July. SRT management seems to ignore the current situation and dealers are not helping at all. Completely agreed that there is no constructive vision in SRT management. If I was in their shoes, I'd be putting as...
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    sad news...viper plant shuttered until end June.

    The actual name dealers use is Dodge SRT Viper. :DI am not sure how difficult it is for them to update their website but I bet not all that hard to add SRT as a brand? At least they would be consistent with Chrysler and that DriveSRT website? I am guessing the problem would be with other...
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    sad news...viper plant shuttered until end June.

    I am reading this thread with great interest while keeping my mouth shut not to get accused of venomous (pun intended) spouting off. Based on a very recent shopping experience, I strongly recommend that you and the VCA top brass apply the part of the statement I highlighted in your response...
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    Is Gen 5 more suitable as a daily driver than Gen 4?

    Well, never mind. I actually convinced myself I could live with a DD Viper but apparently this is not going to happen on the account of suitable cars being allocated with some of the worst dealers in my state and pretty far from me and better dealers not having suitable cars and not interested...
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    Is Gen 5 more suitable as a daily driver than Gen 4?

    LOL, yes, it ain't no California. The attention to detail on the new Viper is astounding, obviously someone took great pride in assembling it.:2tu:

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