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Guys (I don't have a Viper yet, so I can't experiment), but with all this talk about torque, is it possible to slowly let the clutch out in first gear (without giving any gas) and the car will slowly creep forward? Or will the car stall?

I remember the first car I drove as a kid was my Dad's old diesel Mercedes Benz. I would slowly let go of the clutch without giving gas and the car would move slowly on its own (this helped alot as I was still learning to drive a stick).
 
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Hmmm....that's cool to know. So are you saying it won't stall at a stand still? Or does the car actually inch forward (flat surface ofcourse)?
 

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Yes you can do it.
When you get your first Viper do it like that and be careful. When I got my viper I did a donut just when I left the dealer`s parking lot without wanting it ... after I was really scared and I am very carefull now.
 

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Yes you can do it.
When you get your first Viper do it like that and be careful. When I got my viper I did a donut just when I left the dealer`s parking lot without wanting it ... after I was really scared and I am very carefull now.
Ahahaha i bet you about pissed your pants LOL Thats awesome. No reason to be scared of the Viper just give it respect and she will take care of you :)
The Vipers Dartyness scares me sometimes when i'm goin about 150 mph or on screwed up roads when those big ars tires throw me around, looks like i've been drinkin on bad roads lol
 
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Yes you can do it.
When you get your first Viper do it like that and be careful. When I got my viper I did a donut just when I left the dealer`s parking lot without wanting it ... after I was really scared and I am very carefull now.

Thanks! That's exactly what I'm plannin on doin as soon as I get my viper, hence the question. :D And doin a donut for my first drive is exactly what I'm trying to avoid. Thanks for all the replies guys!
 

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My driveway has a slight incline and I have to back my car in. It’s a tight fit, so once I get it in the driveway I have to back it in slowly and keep checking the mirror, to make sure I hit the side of the garage. When doing this, I leave my foot off the gas completely, and just use the clutch to back it into the garage. No problem.
I’m going to teach my nephews and nieces how to drive a stick with the Viper. It should be much easier for them because you can’t really stall the Viper.


Yes you can do it.
When you get your first Viper do it like that and be careful. When I got my viper I did a donut just when I left the dealer`s parking lot without wanting it ... after I was really scared and I am very carefull now.
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When I first drove my Viper with it’s previous owner, I took off in second because I read somewhere that, with so much torque, first was unnecessary to use. I was trying to act like I knew how to drive a viper. The guy started to point out my error, but I did it so nonchalantly, that he stopped mid sentence and just let it go. I suppose he figured “ Hey, if this A hole is buying the car, let him drive it anyway he likes”.
 

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I do that sometimes in stop and go traffic... much less tedious way to drive in that condition. Although I do notice if I do that for a long duration (1hr or more... yes traffic gets THAT bad in San Francisco), it messes up the computer and idles funny for a day or so until I put it through it's paces again.
 
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My driveway has a slight incline and I have to back my car in. It’s a tight fit, so once I get it in the driveway I have to back it in slowly and keep checking the mirror, to make sure I hit the side of the garage. When doing this, I leave my foot off the gas completely, and just use the clutch to back it into the garage. No problem.
I’m going to teach my nephews and nieces how to drive a stick with the Viper. It should be much easier for them because you can’t really stall the Viper.


Yes you can do it.
When you get your first Viper do it like that and be careful. When I got my viper I did a donut just when I left the dealer`s parking lot without wanting it ... after I was really scared and I am very carefull now.
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When I first drove my Viper with it’s previous owner, I took off in second because I read somewhere that, with so much torque, first was unnecessary to use. I was trying to act like I knew how to drive a viper. The guy started to point out my error, but I did it so nonchalantly, that he stopped mid sentence and just let it go. I suppose he figured “ Hey, if this A hole is buying the car, let him drive it anyway he likes”.


That's also good to know. I wanted ask about 2nd gear, but I guess you answered it for me. That's what I used to do with motorbikes (when I was still learning). I'd stick it in 2nd or 3rd and give gas...no torque surprises there.
 

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Guys (I don't have a Viper yet, so I can't experiment), but with all this talk about torque, is it possible to slowly let the clutch out in first gear (without giving any gas) and the car will slowly creep forward? Or will the car stall?
Why ask a question like that if you can drive a manual gearbox? If you can't, learn it on a lesser car and then upgrade to a Viper.
 

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i taught my wife to drive a stick on the viper in a parking lot on the side of the highway. its easier to learn in a viper cause of the torque. but it can easily bite ya too. just be carefull
 

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I'm not sure if it is just torque or the combination of torque and what clutch you have. My wife had a new beetle for awhile that could do the same thing, while my son's twin webber 66 VW had about a 1/4" sweet spot to let the clutch out or it died. My Viper will start in 2nd no problem, but I think that is because of the supercharger adding that extra little umph right when I take off. I don't do this on purpose, but have accidently a few times forgot to put it back in first at a light.
 
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Guys (I don't have a Viper yet, so I can't experiment), but with all this talk about torque, is it possible to slowly let the clutch out in first gear (without giving any gas) and the car will slowly creep forward? Or will the car stall?
Why ask a question like that if you can drive a manual gearbox? If you can't, learn it on a lesser car and then upgrade to a Viper.

I'm quite confident with a manual (all my cars have been manuals), but I've just never driven a car with this much torque. I'm just trying to avoid any, any possible mistakes before I even drive one. The car with the most torque I've driven was a regular C6. It was an easy to drive (just puttin around the block) and it has all sorts of nanny controls incase anything went wrong (I never push a car that I don't own that far).
 

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Don't worry Saint, you'll be fine. I never drove a high performance car in my life till I bought a Z06 and people said "Oh man wait till you feel the awesome power". I was underwhelmed. Not that the Viper is underwhelming, but if you know how to drive a stick and you take it easy till you get a feel for the car you will be ok. Common sense driving is all it takes.
 

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This is good to know. After owning my Viper for a month, I got caught in snow for my last drive (when it wasn't supposed to snow) and as I crawled home, I would let out the clutch slowly, start to fish-tail and then depress the clutch, let out the clutch slowly, start to fish-tail, depress the clutch... all the way home for 1/2 hour or so. I just realize now that I didn't use the gas pedal at all. I would have needed to in the Stealth I owned before.

Is there a limit to how fast you can let out the clutch without using the gas pedal in first?

Santo
 
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This is good to know. After owning my Viper for a month, I got caught in snow for my last drive (when it wasn't supposed to snow) and as I crawled home, I would let out the clutch slowly, start to fish-tail and then depress the clutch, let out the clutch slowly, start to fish-tail, depress the clutch... all the way home for 1/2 hour or so. I just realize now that I didn't use the gas pedal at all. I would have needed to in the Stealth I owned before.

Is there a limit to how fast you can let out the clutch without using the gas pedal in first?

Santo


Oh man, your knuckles must have been soooo white afterwards. Did they have to pry your hands off the steering wheel when you got home? :eek: :crazy:
 

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Oh man, your knuckles must have been soooo white afterwards. Did they have to pry your hands off the steering wheel when you got home? :eek: :crazy:

Yes, it was a trying experience and the extra heat in the car didn't help any either ;) Let's just say that I was soaked when I got out :) I also remember four guys in a Mustang filming me for a short time. Scumbags. Who drives around with a camcorder anyway? :)

That was my last drive before putting it away for the winter. I'm counting down the hours until spring now. :2tu:

Santo
 

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Teaching some one to drive a stick in a Viper??? I'd recommend a Jeep Rangler. My buddy had a 98, it had so much torque he could pull the driver side front tire off the ground if he punched it hard in a tight turn. He could also partacly take is foot off the clutch and it would just go. Like our cars, you had to work at it to stall it out.
 

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Just to add a note to this form; when you add an aluminum flywheel to a viper it takes a little more "driver input" to roll the car along in traffic, but well worth it!
 
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