I have read just about every thread (I searched Plum), and I arrive back at using Stoptech or Brembo's new 380MM set up. Today was Monday, so I didn't call JonB as I have made that mistake before, but in pricing the SRT conversion, it seems a person is spending nearly if not more on this set up if they go with a two piece rotor. Am I missing something? Is anyone here running either the Stoptech or Brembo 380MM kit? From a clearance perspective, do the SRT rear calipers require the same clearance as the Stoptech's and Brembos?
Looking for brake advice
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GTS-R 001
Enthusiast
What are you putting the brakes on? An SRT or a Gen 2?
Rear??? I thought The Gen2 SRT conversion moves the Font Gen2 Calipers to the Rear, Then you put the SRT Front Calipers on your Front.
What year is your Gen2 ? ABS or no?
ok, I am one of probably a few folks that has owned and tracked the following
Gen 2 stock brakes no ABS
Gen 2 with Tom's 40mm kit with bias valve no ABS
Gen 4 SRT10
Gen 2, SRT 10 DBB kit on all 4 corners, with ABS
What's the purpose wanting bigger brakes?
Gen 2 stock brakes no ABS
Gen 2 with Tom's 40mm kit with bias valve no ABS
Gen 4 SRT10
Gen 2, SRT 10 DBB kit on all 4 corners, with ABS
What's the purpose wanting bigger brakes?
MTGTS
Enthusiast
I hope you have a big enough rim with the correct offset to run a 380mm kit.
Car is a gen two 2001. Car will see pretty much street time. I had a 2002 and thought the brakes were pitiful. If I did the Gen 3 swap, I would want to do the full swap, not move the Gen 2 calipers to the rear. I will be running 19's and 20's, and the wheels will be built to accommodate the brakes. This is just a little stroker car that isn't making huge power. I run four piston Stoptechs on my 69 Camaro and they are okay.
JonB was very helpful on the phone today. It looks like the Gen 3 route is cheapest if you are willing to hunt for the calipers, but then if I have them coated, the cost differential seems to be less and less with just going to a dedicated BBK.
The purpose for them are both cosmetic and feel. I dumped my 2002 BB with 2,000 miles on it over the brakes. I hated the car for that reason alone, and started buying coupes from there forward. I am perfectly happy with the SRT brakes, but I guess the question is for a grand or two, are the 355 Stoptechs or the 380 Brembo's worth it? Looks, absolutely. Overkill for my purposes, probably.
JonB was very helpful on the phone today. It looks like the Gen 3 route is cheapest if you are willing to hunt for the calipers, but then if I have them coated, the cost differential seems to be less and less with just going to a dedicated BBK.
The purpose for them are both cosmetic and feel. I dumped my 2002 BB with 2,000 miles on it over the brakes. I hated the car for that reason alone, and started buying coupes from there forward. I am perfectly happy with the SRT brakes, but I guess the question is for a grand or two, are the 355 Stoptechs or the 380 Brembo's worth it? Looks, absolutely. Overkill for my purposes, probably.
SoCal Rebell
Enthusiast
I had the complete Stoptech Big Brake package on my 2000 (no ABS) and it worked great on the track and off, 355mm (14.2") front and 13" in the rear, fit under the 18" wheels just fine, ya didn't need a proportioning valve or anything.
vancouver-gts
Viper Owner
I went with DBB kit from JonB for my 99 Gen II . 2003 srT brakes all four corners. Played with the proportioning valve spring pressure.Never had one lockup since and the car stops as it should have had from the factory ! Don't track my car but drive some pretty curvy roads [ Duffey Lake Road] and hang with my friend's Ferrari and Noble M400 no problem .The 14" srT brakes will clear OEM Gen II 18" wheels , but have to use 5/16 spacers!
Feel is probably to subjective. Personally I'd leave the brakes alone and look at different pads. I could outbrake porsches at the track with toms kit and no abs so stopping a gen two is not an issue.
For me while on the street I want a pad that bites hard when cold and I don't care so much about modulation or release. On the track, I don't car about cold but I want high torque and moderate release so that I can modulate. I do not run the same pads on the track as the street.
For me while on the street I want a pad that bites hard when cold and I don't care so much about modulation or release. On the track, I don't car about cold but I want high torque and moderate release so that I can modulate. I do not run the same pads on the track as the street.
Timnineside
Enthusiast
I take it you found a GTS tucker?
I just got my SRT kit in. Plan on moving the stock Gen 2's to the rear. I can keep you posted on the updates. SRT fronts going on tomorrow I believe.
-Tim
I just got my SRT kit in. Plan on moving the stock Gen 2's to the rear. I can keep you posted on the updates. SRT fronts going on tomorrow I believe.
-Tim
I did Tim. Trying to get some things lined up for it.
Catwood, feel is absolutely objective, and it has more to do with what else you are used to driving. I ran greens and different rotors on my 02 car, and it just wasn't great. At that time, I had a coupe with Stoptechs on it, so jumping in the GTS was awful. That comparison now with a GT next to this car, it will be as bad if not worse. I figure it is probably money well spent to address it so I enjoy the car.
Catwood, feel is absolutely objective, and it has more to do with what else you are used to driving. I ran greens and different rotors on my 02 car, and it just wasn't great. At that time, I had a coupe with Stoptechs on it, so jumping in the GTS was awful. That comparison now with a GT next to this car, it will be as bad if not worse. I figure it is probably money well spent to address it so I enjoy the car.
I've installed srt 10 calipers front & rear with stoptech fullfloating race discs 380 front 355 rear ...race pads on the front ( pf01) and stock brembo rear, no proportional valve , it works wonderful my car is 99 % used on the race track ...and yes it's a Red GTS 2000
dave6666
Enthusiast
19/20, SRT calipers, 14" Euroteck rotors, no clearance issues, logo looks correct. EBC reds are great for low dust but not for stopping but as others have mentioned swap pads for performance use and keep the low dust pads on the car for poser use.
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moparracing
Enthusiast
did the same, well worth the money!!
It is still in a transporter. I have some goodies for it when it gets here, and will post pictures in a month or two when it is all together. I hope it is a fun one to drive.
Congrats on the Gen II pick up. I was going to comment on my SRT DBB kit but I see you have a line on securing a set up.
Lets see some pics of the new beast. A built NA car should be a blast to drive.
GTS Warp
Enthusiast
I'm looking to go with Tom's rear kit and slotted rotors all the way around on a 97 GTS. Any advice on pads? Street driven only.
Fatboy 18
Enthusiast
Ive got Toms kit on my GTS, MAKES A MASSIVE DIFFRENCE, I was getting sick of front wheel lock up, the 40mm kit balanced the car out and makes it feel much more stable when braking. I do do some spirited driving on charity track days and find myself pumping the pedal furiously trying to slow the car down before turning into the corners, the brakes just about cope, Im using EBC Red pads on the front and an aftermarket euro pad from a Renault on the rear, You do get a lot of brake dust from the EBC Reds, but I dont care as long as the car stops! I do tend to be ******* the brakes
I just dont have the Budget for a Big brake kit
I just dont have the Budget for a Big brake kit
nismobrown
Viper Owner
I have srt calipers front and rear with yellow stuff pads on my 97gts with willwood prop valve, is there any advantage in fitting the SRT master cylinder ? I find the conversion far better than stock, no front lock up but think there is still room for improvement.
Of the three setups for Gen 2, which did you like best (for track & ax) and why?
cfiiman
Viper Owner
Those wheels are sooooo ****, are those the Spec 5's?????? I've got to do this swap
Chuck 98 RT/10
Enthusiast
That's a good choice.
If no dust, no squeal is the objective then EBC pads will do the job. They are a terrible performance pad but since you're only street driven they are a good choice. I have them on my street RT/10.
Fatboy 18
Enthusiast
Hey Chuck, what do recommend for a fast road/Track pad?
GTS Warp
Enthusiast
I know Tom's doesn't require the prop valve, but am I better off going with one? I'm with ya Fatboy, I don't want to spend major $$$ on a BB kit. I'll put the extra cake into some other mods.... and rims!
Fatboy 18
Enthusiast
In my 2000 GTS I have found that you dont need a Prop valve, What would be good though is a line lock to hold the front brakes when warming the rear tires
