Autotrader 2002 RT/10 scam

[PHILIP]

There is a 2002 RT/10 offered on Autotrader.com for sale for $30k.

I got the following response to an enquiry. Maybe some of the UK enthusiests could pick it up for a few thousand less and save the guy the trouble of shipping it to the USA;-)
:

HELLO
I see that you have some interes for this vehicle that I want to sell so
these are some details about it. The car has never been involved in any
accidents and it is in perfect condition.It is registered in USA and it has
all the necessary papers.You will get that and the title also with the car.
For now I'm in UK with my work.The car is here with me. I sugest that you
send a payment of 3000 USD to my address in USA through Western Union. I
will check the status of the transfer and I will send the car in the same
day. I won't be able to get the money form Western Union because I am not in
USA. I will pay for the shipping and I will insure the car .The car will
arrive to your address in a week or so depends on your location.I will also
pay in advance for the situation when you decide not to accept the car. The
shipping company will return the car to me and you will get a full refund
.If you decide to keep the car after the inspection period you advice me and
you can send the rest of the payment too.I'm waiting for your email soon. If
you have more questions feel free to ask me. REGARDS


>From: [email protected]

>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Owner 49490809: AutoTrader.com: Vehicle Lead
>Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 03:16:23 -0500 (EST)
>
>***VEHICLE LEAD***
>
>The following lead was generated from AutoTrader.com's web site at
>http://www.autotrader.com.
>
>VEHICLE INFORMATION
>Make: Dodge
>Model: Viper
>Year: 2002
>Price: 30000
>Mileage: 7000
>Body Style: Convertible
>Color: Red
>Cylinders: 10 Cylinder Gasoline
>Transmission: Automatic
>Doors: Two Door
>Stereo: Unavailable
>VIN: 1B3ER65E02V102327
>Description: This vehicle is in excellent condition. It includes 3 tops -
>hard top, soft top and toneau cover. This car looks like it came right off
>of the showroom floor. It is in excellent condition, with absolutely no
>known problems.For more info please email me.

 

[Mopar Steve]

WoW! it even came with the rare automatic trans option!

 

[BADVENOM]

WHAT A JOKE.........

At that price, I'll take a bakers dozen..lol

 

[Supercharged Vipermad]

Please post all the details if you can. I can verify that VIN belongs to a 2002 Red RT/10, bought in KY. Might be a ghost seller...scam.

 

[Qualitywires.com]

Dang! I was hoping it was david's Viper in KY. I would have bought it at that price!

 

[Gerald]

That wasnt' even beleivable.. Does someone really beieve they just send 3k and a car will be shipped the same day? And the seller will pay all taxes and shipment fees? Anyone who falls for that needs their HEAD examined..

G

 

[SNKEBIT]

Gerald, those same people are breathin' your oxygen and contributing to the gene pool! There really should be birth control!

 

[SylvanSRT]

retro-active birth control for scammers.

 

[Bill B]

Hey give the guy a break.
just because it looks like a SCAM!
Taste like a SCAM!
Smells like a SCAM!
And is a SCAM!
Doesn't always mean that it a SCAM!
Am I clear?

 

[SylvanSRT]

ok since its not a scam im on my way to western union, and cuz this guy seems so honest im wiring the price of the whole car. NOT!!

 

[tim721]

its those same A**HOLES that are ruining ebay!

all i get now is high bidders from Indonesia that wanna pay me with stolen credit cards...

 

[Saleen-Explorer]

Who the hell would trust Western Union and their stupid policies in the 1st place.

 

[Yellow Fever]

Wow and it even includes 3 tops..Give me a break .

 

[Qualitywires.com]

hey I'm playing with this *****. ha! I sent him an email. I will have him running in circles looking for his money, I have a bunch of monopoly money I will send him in a envelope wih a big picture of a middle finger! It will be worth the stamp!

here's the latest email:

All you have to do is send funds to my address in USA: ZULEMMA A CASTILLO
44-17 48th ave #140
Woodside New York 11377
You have to write me the MTCN( money transfer control number) and the name and address of the sender.Ok? Please provide address for shipping. THANKS


>From: "Adam " <[email protected]>
>Reply-To: "Adam " <[email protected]>
>To: <[email protected]>
>Subject: question about your car
>Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:56:14 -0500
>
>How do I complete this transaction?

 

[Hot Rod]

This really is a rare RT/10 - automatic transmission and a sunroof. I'm surprised Autotrader would accept this ad much less let it run. Hope nobody gets burned.

 

[ViperJoe]

OK, let's fu*k with this guy. Tell him you have a friend in England that wants to take a look at the car. Want to bet he won't be able to accommodate you?? That Western Union story about not being able to get it until he is back in the USA is BS. Once it is sent to him, thats it, money is in his hands and no recourse. Lots of times the person is not even where he says he is. This was the case on a set of Gen2 wheels for sale a while back on ebay.

 

[KepRght]

i just shipped a car to the uk, let me tell you it took 2 months to clear customs.

not too fun

 

[Qualitywires.com]

The man already got pissed at me! ha!

 

[Saleen-Explorer]

lol ab, someone should really send him Monopoly money

 

[THOR]

FYI:
I had a very similar (unsolicited eBAY) offer from a guy in Germany wanting to sell a super low mileage RT10. This guy pulled my name off eBAY as he saw that I had actually placed a bid on a Viper.
This German ("Michael Heyse") had a complete story about how he had bought this RT10 from the USA, as a gift for his son. His son was lost in a mountain accident (presumably an avalanche), three years ago and has never been located, and presumed dead.
After numerous email exchanges, including beautiful pics of this 3800 mile car, and even a photo of his German title for the car with VIN # and everything. I later found the same pics on eBay for another car that was for sale out of Florida. I contacted the dealer in Florida who had the car, verified the VIN #, and that he actually had this car on his lot. He did. I told him of this scam, and forwarded him the emails from MH the scammer. This dealer said that he would immediately take this up with eBAY upper mgmt (whom he said he had dealt with in the past on similar issues). The title was an excellent forgery. After I found out all of this, I decided to play with MH for a little while. MH eventually asked me to wire transfer monies (very similar to the story that began this thread). MH said that he would Fed-X the car to me. What a dBag!! At that point I called his bluff. I told him that pictures "of his Viper" were on eBay for a car in Florida. A received a few more emails from MH stating that he "was going to go after the thief who stole his pictures and is trying to scam everyone on eBay with his car." (yea, right!!!)

We all have to watch out for these assclowns who are all over the world trying to rip people off!!!