Keeping new Viper owners SAFE - a How To:

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the safety was a large concern for me personally. I see vids of these things spinning and I think to myself how uncool it would be to not be incontrol at every moment as a vehicle operator.

The traction & stability controls in the V were a huge selling point for me. I understand its due to them being leaglly mandated but honestly "full on" doesn't stop any of my fun in driving and makes me feel more at ease and safer. The prior gens not having them was a variable in me not purchasing one of those models.
 

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That's awesome that you feel that way, and now have a Viper. :2tu:
The 'unsafe factor' has a lot of appeal for most of us old school guys. -not that we're stupid, just crazy.
The earlier cars really are 'not for everybody'. You gotta be nuts to wanna drive one, and push it to the limit.
You have some cool stuff in your signature, and I am glad to see you feel the Viper is something you can add to the stable.
Hopefully it doesn't disappoint you.
 

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The only positive I can think of from that is, our remaining cars are that much more rare, and that's more parts that Don can sell us.
 

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Just got a 14 gen5 .... how much safer is the new cars vs. Gen 1 to 4s with out tcs n esp ? Im a bit weary of the car I jyst got... will be careful but... used to 996 turbo n bmw s1000rr bike... both have excellent traction n stability programs. .. saves my *** a lot of times..
 

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Just bought a brand spanking new 2015 Viper SRT, Gun Metal Pearl. Kind of like it without stripes, but I guess thats just my personal taste. I'm a new Viper owner so I joined the boards for access to some sage advice from you guys who have owned them before. Yes, I'm being very careful not to do anything stupid. I know that this car will eat my lunch if I tell it to do anything stupid, because......it will do it.
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I know I'll take some heat, especially from free 2 "leave" but here goes. Why are you buying a car that you are so scared of?! Everyone seems to be petrified about touching the gas on these things. It's a Viper, not a top fuel dragster. If you can't handle it than buy a minivan. Once you scare yourself, which everyone must do, than you know the outer limits and you learn what you can get away with. Everyone who buys one must be older and has driven many miles before in rain, maybe snow, and has lots of experience because it takes awhile to be able to afford one. Use your previous experience, experiment in a safe place and learn how to drive it. Hasn't anyone done burnouts and donuts before?. **** it up, drive your car, and have fun!
 

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I know I'll take some heat, especially from free 2 "leave" but here goes. Why are you buying a car that you are so scared of?! Everyone seems to be petrified about touching the gas on these things. It's a Viper, not a top fuel dragster. If you can't handle it than buy a minivan. Once you scare yourself, which everyone must do, than you know the outer limits and you learn what you can get away with. Everyone who buys one must be older and has driven many miles before in rain, maybe snow, and has lots of experience because it takes awhile to be able to afford one. Use your previous experience, experiment in a safe place and learn how to drive it. Hasn't anyone done burnouts and donuts before?. **** it up, drive your car, and have fun!



What a weak and subtle...yet effective trolling technique you have. Unfortunately, I have risen from the depths to agree with you on this one.
 

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Read each and every post and what I have taken away from this is that I need to go ahead and drop around $500 for some driving classes.
Thanks for this thread and all of your helpful advice!
 

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I too, read every post in this thread. I'm trying to purchase my first Viper as soon as next week.

I think it points out the need to tread lightly when driving one of these machines.

A man in the movies once said and I think it's very appropriate to this thread. "A man's got to know his limitations".

Common sense is very important in everything you do and especially when your life could hang in the balance. (i.e. when driving a Viper)
 

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OK so define older? Sometimes in life the crappy fate fairy shines your way and you get to purchase on of these a little quicker than your age group.
I do agree with learning what your car s capable of and what the two of you are capable of together. Let's face it though it's a VIPER. It is what it is. I plan on having some hellish good fun in mine. BTW broomrider happens to be 39yrs young .
 

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I didn't see it here, but wanted to chime in also regarding engine braking. With a 10cyl pushrod motor you have a LOT of reciprocating mass (compared to today's turbo-4s) even when the HP is the same. Natural reaction if you come into a corner too hot is to lift throttle. In an AWD car or FWD car with factory alignment and swaybars, you'll push (understeer) off the end of the corner, but still be pointed straight. In a track-setup AWD or low-displacement RWD, you will get some rear wiggle but you have to yank on the wheel for things to go awry badly. There's just not enough engine braking to lock anything up.

The Viper is different. I was shocked at how little lift-throttle is required to radically change the balance.

This video (not me) is a perfect illustration:
Viper Crash at COTA

Car is pointed straight. Missed shift. Massive engine braking and the rears lock up (failed to put both feet in IMMEDIATELY). Day over.
 

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I didn't see it here, but wanted to chime in also regarding engine braking. With a 10cyl pushrod motor you have a LOT of reciprocating mass (compared to today's turbo-4s) even when the HP is the same. Natural reaction if you come into a corner too hot is to lift throttle. In an AWD car or FWD car with factory alignment and swaybars, you'll push (understeer) off the end of the corner, but still be pointed straight. In a track-setup AWD or low-displacement RWD, you will get some rear wiggle but you have to yank on the wheel for things to go awry badly. There's just not enough engine braking to lock anything up.

The Viper is different. I was shocked at how little lift-throttle is required to radically change the balance.

This video (not me) is a perfect illustration:
Viper Crash at COTA

Car is pointed straight. Missed shift. Massive engine braking and the rears lock up (failed to put both feet in IMMEDIATELY). Day over.

I thing he shifted into the wrong gear.
 

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Good thread. I got my warnings off my first visit to the VCA site years ago.....and applied them, most of them. I still drove on the original Michs (plenty of tread) on first 2000 RT10 w/1700 miles bot in 2003. Got frisky one time and broke the rear loose, but it snapped right back when I got off the gas. Got lucky. My 2nd (bot 2 yrs ago) 2002 RT10, 5000 mi, had the (like new) originals Michs too. They were gone the next week replaced by some nice tacky Goodrich Rivals. DON'T TRUST OLD TIRES!
 

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