What is the purpose of the SRT Division?

[TCKTPLZ]

Over the past couple years, the SRT Division has been hard at work. As many of you may know, they have been developing and tuning many vehicles. Neons, Magnums, 300C's, and even RAM trucks. But what surprised me most is their lack thereof with the Viper. Sure, they may have produced some concepts, but nothing really probable for the street.

Why is SRT spending time tuning rental-car sh!tboxes like the Neon, making trucks into sportscars, and toiling to create the fastest family truckster on the block when the heart and soul of the division itself is starting to weaken? It seems like Chevy knows what to do with its bread and butter, but why not Dodge?

Has the Viper become second priority at the SRT division? It sure looks so.

 

[94RT10Ohio]

It is all about $$. Since Dodge can mass produce these cars and trucks and sell them at a lower cost they can sell more. If SRT would take a Viper and make it better the cost would be over 100K, hense very LOW sales and cars sitting in their showroom floors like the Ford GT is. That is why we have the aftermarket places for the very few that want to spend the $$. Besides the other cars that are specifically tuned are done to keep with the the Viper because their base can not cut the mustard.

 

[Chuck 98 RT/10]

Besides the other cars that are specifically tuned are done to keep with the the Viper because their base can not cut the mustard.

It's not "mustard" it's "muster."

 

[plumcrazy]

fastest family truckster is what the mopar community wants....didnt YOU know THAT.

DC really has to get thier heads outta thier @sses and wake up.

 

[94RT10Ohio]

Besides the other cars that are specifically tuned are done to keep with the the Viper because their base can not cut the mustard.

It's not "mustard" it's "muster."

Maybe it is both?

http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/107200.html

 

[Craig 201 MPH]

I am going to buy nothing but DC products simply because of the stellar NASCAR program. I don't care if the cars have some of the *****|est interiors in the industry.

 

[Cris]

Wow! Craig that is great. So how many new cars have you purchased? With buying power like that you will influence ... Mattel.

 

[Chuck 98 RT/10]

Besides the other cars that are specifically tuned are done to keep with the the Viper because their base can not cut the mustard.

It's not "mustard" it's "muster."

Maybe it is both?

http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/107200.html

LOL I stand corrected.

...but it's still "muster."

 

[Steve Ferguson]

The more money SRT makes on the "other" programs means the more likely that programs like Viper continue. Can't fund design, engineering and concepts without a profit center. At least with SRT standing alone anything they earn they can now use!

 

[SNKEBIT]

I am going to buy nothing but DC products simply because of the stellar NASCAR program. I don't care if the cars have some of the *****|est interiors in the industry.

don't even go there, volva interiors ****

 

[Craig 201 MPH]

I am going to buy nothing but DC products simply because of the stellar NASCAR program. I don't care if the cars have some of the *****|est interiors in the industry.

don't even go there, volva interiors ****

Compared to anything currently in the chrysler lineup??? LOL get a clue.

 

[Chuck 98 RT/10]

Interiors? I don't give a **** about interiors.

 

[SNKEBIT]

I am going to buy nothing but DC products simply because of the stellar NASCAR program. I don't care if the cars have some of the *****|est interiors in the industry.

don't even go there, volva interiors ****

Compared to anything currently in the chrysler lineup??? LOL get a clue.

LOL yourself, I get to drive all the Asian and the European cars(highbuck) on a daily basis (for 20+ years). Don't tell me what's plastic and what isn't. The 2 biggest offenders for return to dealer for stupid $hit is the Volvas and the Audis. Maybe when ya get old enough to drive more than 2 cars in yer lifetime, YOU'LL get a clue.

 

[Craig 201 MPH]

I am going to buy nothing but DC products simply because of the stellar NASCAR program. I don't care if the cars have some of the *****|est interiors in the industry.

don't even go there, volva interiors ****

Compared to anything currently in the chrysler lineup??? LOL get a clue.

LOL yourself, I get to drive all the Asian and the European cars(highbuck) on a daily basis (for 20+ years). Don't tell me what's plastic and what isn't. The 2 biggest offenders for return to dealer for stupid $hit is the Volvas and the Audis. Maybe when ya get old enough to drive more than 2 cars in yer lifetime, YOU'LL get a clue.

Do we need to bust out the recall list/?????

North american cars are ALL plastic $hit on the inside, hell the leather is one or two grades above vinyl, there is a reason you pay more for premium cars and why the 300C is such a "bargain"

That's great that you get to drive all the Asian and European cars, how do you like working got Hertz?

 

[SNKEBIT]

work for a world wide paint and coatings co. They have every kind of car you can think of in the fleet, over 700 in the U.S. and Canada. I work at corp. headquarters, when there are 2 audis and 2 volvas and they're going back to the dealer MORE THAN the 200+ local "american" cars combined, there is a problem. Don't tell me what's "real" and what isn't.
Maybe once you're out in the real world for a few years and quit believing all the advertisers hype, you'll see.

 

[Craig 201 MPH]

LOL,

I'd rather take a nice european car back to the dealer every once and awhile than some plasticy UAW built POS.

But that's just me.

 

[Cris]

Craig ****. When you get old(er) and wise(r) then you can chime in with real experiences. Your internet knowledge is full of bs.

So please tell us all the cars that you have personally owned or driven for any length of time. Until you have Volvo's and the other cars you speak of in your resume' it will continue to be heard as a line of [******] from a kid who lakes to say a lot but without the knowledge or experience to back up the words.

 

[Craig 201 MPH]

It's such a pleasure to piss people like you off. I've driven a great deal of the new cars on the market and I know what I like and don't like. I'm a student currently whose worked in the automotive industry for 2 years now on and off which has afforded me the opportunity to experience a lot of what is out there.

Kindly ****.

 

[Chuck 98 RT/10]

Craig has been going to college for 12 years. I think he probably has some driving experience.

 

[SNKEBIT]

Craig has been going to college for 12 years. I think he probably has some driving experience.

omg!!!! book lernt!!!!! I bow to book lernt sperience.



craig's a youngin', ya gotta let him believe his overhyped self.
give him a few years and his head will automatically emerge from his a$$

 

[SNKEBIT]

LOL,

I'd rather take a nice european car back to the dealer every once and awhile than some plasticy UAW built POS.

every once and a while???? reserve a spot at the dealer,you're gonna need it.
I don't care what numbers ya pull outta the internet, until ya got 20 years under your belt, ****!!!!

 

[Cris]

Now come on Craig. You have driven or even been in these cars? Oh, and what European company are you referring to that does not use union labor? You may be surprised to hear that the European labor unions have been equally as powerful as the UAW.

And please, clarify things and indicate what this automotive experience is that makes you better informed regarding all makes and models of cars available in the world today than any of us mere mortals. The world awaits your clarifying words.

 

[Craig 201 MPH]

LOL,

I'd rather take a nice european car back to the dealer every once and awhile than some plasticy UAW built POS.

every once and a while???? reserve a spot at the dealer,you're gonna need it.
I don't care what numbers ya pull outta the internet, until ya got 20 years under your belt, ****!!!!

I'm 22,

Cris,

I don't pretend to know everything however I do get to drive a lot of the current european and asian models, not all but a good number.

You compare a mid line American car with a mid line european or premium asian car and there is no comparison. Look at JD power surveys, it's clear who builds the better cars.

Try finding a neon with 300,000 miles on it, no go look for same year civics/corollas/accords/camry's and they are all over the place.

 

[Cris]

Look at JD power surveys, it's clear who builds the better cars.

Okay, I'll bite, based on the JD POwer Initial Quality Survey, how do the American OEMs compare to the European OEMs? I presume that is the JDP survey that you were referring to.

 

[Cris]

Here Craig is the summary for 2004. If you look at the facts, the NA OEMs and European OEMs have been in lock step for 3 years. So where is the so-called superiority?

 

[joe117]

"You compare a mid line American car with a mid line european or premium asian car and there is no comparison"

Looking at the charts, I'd say the feeling that I had about who makes good cars and who is over rated, seems about right.

BMW is a little better than GM.... OK, that's about what I thought.

Anyway Craig,
When you compare a mid line American car with a mid line European or premium Asian car,
are you comparing cars with similar actual selling prices?

 

[Craig 201 MPH]

Here Craig is the summary for 2004. If you look at the facts, the NA OEMs and European OEMs have been in lock step for 3 years. So where is the so-called superiority?

Looks to me that the domestics still have a long way to go in the area of problems per 100 vehicles... as for the improvement chart, one can expect the domestics to improve more, the european and asian cars were simply more refined to start with, there really isn't much you can do with them when compared to a domestic.

I used to not give a damn about interior materials build and finish quality but after spending a lot of time in newer cars you can really see the differences between North american and european/asian cars. N/A builds great trucks and that's about it, for a DD give me something built by Honda or Toyota

 

[joe117]

Anyway Craig,
When you compare a mid line American car with a mid line European or premium Asian car,
are you comparing cars with similar actual selling prices?

 

[Craig 201 MPH]

no of course not, one is held to higher quality standards and therfor will cost more. You pay for what you get, most people on this board can appreciate that.

 

[joe117]

Craig,
I thought you were saying that with the foreign cars were getting a better car for the money?

Wouldn't it make more sense to compare cars in the same actual price range?

Then you say,
"You pay for what you get, most people on this board can appreciate that."

That's quite a concept you have there.

If I've got that right, I think it would mean that a $40k Mercedes would be a better car than a $30k Chevy.

And you would compare them car for car, ignoring the price, and say the Mercedes is better.

OK, I think I understand now.