Calling all viper owners who can help??????

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Jazzyjeff0129

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So this is the hardest and most embarrassing thing i have ever had to write about.

A friend calls me a month ago tells me he borrowed money from some guys that are going to kill him if he cant pay it back
he tells me he bought a **** ton of ******* and cant move it, needs my help. Not wanting a friend to lose his life i agree to arrange a meeting with a guy i know in ny.
At that meeting we are all arrested for trafficking in *******, i am facing 25 years in prison for trying to help who i thought was a friend. Turns out he was an informant for the police and was released.
I have hired a great lawyer and posted bond, but the police have siezed my bank account.
I need some real viper lovers help financially to help keep my viper.

If you have the means and the love of viper or just hate that the police can totally ruin someones life on a rats word then please help.
If you can and are willing to help a fellow viper owner please im me as soon as humanly possible.

Thank you for taking the time to read this and god bless.
Or if you are in the market for a real nice 2013 gts original msrp 140,090 black on black for 88k please let me know

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First, you're friends with a guy that bought a "ton of *******"???

Second you have a meeting with him and "a guy you know from New York" to help him move this *******???

You know some interesting people.

Yep, that's trafficking *******. I have met many many members on these forums, and I know of no-one here that would be willing to get involved in such a situation. Good luck to you, be careful that there is no seizure liens on the Viper as well.
 
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not a whole ton just 2 kilos but thought he was a friend and was just trying to help out. yeah interesting friends but not all where friends apparently..
 
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I was hoping to reach out to people that love vipers maybe someone has the means or someone would like to buy my car. Hard to do go fund me when my bank account is frozen? but I do appreciate the answer all the same.
 

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Wait wasn't there an awesome movie about this, where everyone died at the end?? Oh YES True Romance, AWESOME flick.

Well at least you didn't die, that can be a rough crowd. If a good friend came to me with that I'd just have to call the DEA, and see if I could get the guy a good deal or something... Not judging you, we all would do a lot for a friend, but you went WAY beyond the call for friendship. So sorry for your loss.

You can throw it on the classifieds, but with all the cars out there, you may not get a great price.

One last thing, it was the "friend" who did you in? You had no priors of moving *******? Isn't that why we have entrapment laws around? I mean someone calls me and says "hey here's a million bucks, it's completely legit, I just like you" I'd be taking that... That's entrapment, I'm no lawyer of course, this deal seems to stink from what you say...

Really sorry to hear the predicament, if this was April first, I would say this was a joke, but I take you at your word and say "WOW". Thats a story!

"Not a whole ton just 2 kilos".... WOW This makes me feel a LOT better about maybe speeding a LITTLE this weekend :), craziest story of the day...
 

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Damn man....

You got yourself into some deep shizzle right there.
 

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I'm no lawyer, but I kinda agree that something about this seems fishy. If there was no actual contraband in play how can the situation be so serious? That's like me saying I have a classic Ferrari I'll sell you that might be missing a VIN plate, but if I don't really have the car how is anything illegal going on? Did the CI actually have anything on him? Otherwise this just look like some people meeting up to discuss a deal, regardless of the nature of it.
 

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1. See below. The conduct puts you in a conspiracy.

2. You have put everyone on notice that you knew a potential purchaser of the ******* and you have admitted by your post that you intended to fix the seller up with the buyer.

3. The post raises the question of why and how you would know a buyer for two kilos of *******.

4. The post raises the issue of whether your Viper was acquired with clean funds.

5. I also hope the post is a joke on the typical email scam where someone poses as a friend and claims their wallet was stolen and could money be wired to help them. Otherwise, the post is a confession of sorts and it was very poor judgment to post it.



So this is the hardest and most embarrassing thing i have ever had to write about.

A friend calls me a month ago tells me he borrowed money from some guys that are going to kill him if he cant pay it back
he tells me he bought a **** ton of ******* and cant move it, needs my help. Not wanting a friend to lose his life i agree to arrange a meeting with a guy i know in ny.
At that meeting we are all arrested for trafficking in *******, i am facing 25 years in prison for trying to help who i thought was a friend. Turns out he was an informant for the police and was released.
I have hired a great lawyer and posted bond, but the police have siezed my bank account.
I need some real viper lovers help financially to help keep my viper.

If you have the means and the love of viper or just hate that the police can totally ruin someones life on a rats word then please help.
If you can and are willing to help a fellow viper owner please im me as soon as humanly possible.

Thank you for taking the time to read this and god bless.
Or if you are in the market for a real nice 2013 gts original msrp 140,090 black on black for 88k please let me know
 

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Good points Bob, but MoparMap got me thinking. I get several calls a week on people trying to move Vipers. Since I'm the Viper guy, it makes sense. So I sometimes connect buyer and seller. Completely legit, but what if one of these is stolen? I have no way of knowing, am I conspiring to commit fraud? I had no clue, I've never seen the car!?

Now the comparison falls down a bit because the item for sale is not a controlled substance (maybe in the future if Hillary is elected, any car over 200HP might be contraband), so a reasonable person would assume the car is legit... But makes you think a bit...

Heck I got a call today about a Hellcat someone had for sale (he called me due to the raffle). The car is supposedly in build status, but perhaps that's a sham, and if I assist I am colluding in a crime to sell a car that is not really there...
 

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You are missing the point. He knowingly hooked up a seller and a buyer of *******. Everyone here is on notice of that. The situation you describe is one of a middle man for the sale of a Viper where the middle man has clean hands and is not on notice of criminal activity by either party. So in order to buy his car and not worry about whther it could be seized as contraband, the buyer has to qualify as an innocent owner under the applicable statute. On these facts, that means that the buyer would, in essence, need to rebut the possible government's position that he or she was on notice that the seller had bought the car with drug or other illegal proceeds or used the car in the conspiracy. For instance, did he drive to the meeting in the Viper? If so, was the ******* in the Viper?

Bottom line. I do not care how good a friend the guy was. The right thing for him to have done was to tell his friend to go to the FBI for help. I am assuming the lenders were loan sharks.
 

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I was hoping to reach out to people that love vipers maybe someone has the means or someone would like to buy my car.

I won't sit in judgement on what happened. Impossible to know what the facts are when sitting at this end of the internet. Although I am in the pool of potential buyers, it isn't the color I would settle for; but, it is a great looking color.

Did you have your hatch defect fixed to the appearance that you wanted? Gen V Forum: Defect in rear hatch 2013 with stripe package


 
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Yes the hatch was fixed, by prefix, As to all other questions, no this is not a joke. Yes the so called friend had the two kilos with him during the meeting, so it was not just hearsay but actual "possession " as they call it!
The law is very vague who it comes to actual possession but it seems like if you are in the same car or ha e knowledge of the deal you can and will be convicted, or at least arrested.
Yes I should of told him to go to the police, but in hind sight, he already had went to the police! Hence I got arrested. I never wanted to hold this thing nor profit from it, but it's on me now.
I was really hoping that maybe someone if means would help out if they could, just because I am not a bad person just made a bad choice.
 
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The viper was not used in this crime, and no there is not a seizure order for the car, it has a loan and in my girl's name. So any buyer please feel free to contact me. Car has 2260 miles.
 
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Thanks for the idea I have included a link to gofundme for anyone that can help.
 

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It is April of course but too late in the month, please tell me its a bad joke.
This post does not belong here, period. PLease get it removed. In Russia we have an expression that translates ...."your story is stitched with white threads". Call me an ******* but i DO NOT buy any of this mumbo jumbo. You sure do not look Nigerian but you sure sound like one. May be its true may its not but who cares. I think you should call a Holywood producer and sell him a story for a movie, rather than to viper community, where most members, i am sure, earn an honest living and do not have friends loaded with ******* asking them for favors, who know other people who can move piles of *******. Come on you know drugs are really bad for you.
So if my wife drives an X5 and she gets in trouble i should put a thread to all X5 lovers and owners to pitch in because she is f...ng *****? There are so many scams that go on in this country . Like on "Shark Tank" ...I AM OUT
 
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I wish this was a scam but it's real and if you don't have nothing nice to say how about you keep your stupid mouth shut.
 

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You know you have to take the good with the bad. You must have realized that posting this would not only bring sympathy to your situation, but also a bit a chastising for not thinking it through
 

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Another dumb move: To post this on public forum.
Did your lawyer approve it? I'm sure he did not. For obvious reasons.
You DO KNOW that anything you post here can be used against you later. Just like the ******* your buddy had.
One hole, two holes.
If I were you, I would delete this yesterday.
 
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I appreciate everything that you have said but the fact is that anything on here is what happened and as it was a set up with the police what are they going to use against me? But thanks
 
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I understand that some people are just childish and like to make stupid comments, and that is ok. I only posted on here because maybe there is one person out there that once got caught up on something and now they have the means to help out. Did I think I was going to get a lot of sympathy, , and maybe not. But also didn't think I would get some of the stupid ******** comments as such is written above.
But hey everyone is entitled to their opinion.

its easy to make comments in hind sight, and if he was someone off the streets I would of told him to **** off, but when he spoke he had true fear in his eyes and yes I was suckered into helping out and got screwed.

I again thank those with true compassion and those without pray you are never the object of the governments trap.
 

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I understand that some people are just childish and like to make stupid comments, and that is ok. I only posted on here because maybe there is one person out there that once got caught up on something and now they have the means to help out. Did I think I was going to get a lot of sympathy, , and maybe not. But also didn't think I would get some of the stupid ******** comments as such is written above.
But hey everyone is entitled to their opinion.

I again thank those with true compassion and those without pray you are never the object of the governments trap.


The problem is that you are virtually an unknown person to us. The only reason that many of us might have sympathy for you is if we knew you as a regular guy like us. I'm guessing that 99+% of us don't know someone that can move 4 pounds of *******, so, we can't relate. Nowadays many of us do probably know someone who is/was addicted to ******* or ****** or ****. So, we might be a bit biased. We have no idea whether you are a regular guy who just did a stupid thing or if you are someone that the police already had info that was in the business somehow. If it is an outright entrapment of a regular guy, I feel bad that you walked into the trap. I felt bad when I sat on a jury that convicted a girl who didn't really do much more than drive the getaway car in a holdup that went bad; but, she had the choice to walk away and didn't.
 
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