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Sorry this is so long but those of you that know me, know I am very descriptive, so sometimes I tend to write in detail when I have a topic of interest...
Hello folks. Lots of new faces around here since I have been MIA for the past year from the Viper boards. (Since I have been gone so long and feel many of you may be interested in this, I'll be posting this on the popular Viper boards.) Since I have a local Exotic Car message board I manage now and been so busy with life in general, brand new house, etc... I have neglected the Viper boards and need a spanking I'll admit! But take a look below and let me know your thoughts and questions.
So, what is this thread all about? Well, since I have been working with audio for the last 20 years, I decided to take on a project that ALL GTS Viper owners can take advantage of and I wanted to test the waters to see who all would be interested in this. Most of you newer guys, obviously since I haven't posted much on here in the last year, won't know who I am but the older folks here may can vouch for me and a bit of my knowledge on Vipers since I have torn a few apart over the last few years. So what do I have that may interest you GTS guys?
Well, I don't want to give away all my secrets about this project. ESPECIALLY since I am still in the design phase, but closing in on a final "product" that I hope to present to you guys soon. I'm not one to "flake out" in the end unless there is a valid reason and road block but I do not see anything preventing me from making something happen here, so here we go...
Why am I doing this?
Well, I have always been a "BASS HEAD" and have had all kinds of ******** audio setups in my cars since the early 90's. From 18's to multiple 15's and all others in between, I have toyed around with hundreds of speakers and enclosures and even now, for money on the side I deal with home and car audio. I have had an RT/10 (May have future ideas for that later down the road) and a GTS. Unlike the RT/10, the GTS has hope for some good bass, so using my skills and experience with this, I wanted to make something for myself and others to potentially enjoy.
What are the Options, Obstacles?
There are a few "typical" options people have gone with, in the past, to get some good bass in their GTS. If anyone wants a custom audio setup, consisting of a few subwoofers and an amp in the back hatch area they can go to their local Audio dealer / Professional installer and literally spend thousands on a custom audio fiberglass molded enclosure, which usually consists of removing the spare tire and permanently installing alot of messy fiberglass with permanently mounted subs and amps in your trunk.
What are the problems with a Custom fiberglass mold?
Well, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING if you want your Viper to look bad ass and have a custom "Show Quality" setup that anyone could respect and admire. However, this is very expensive, impractical and somewhat unsafe and here's why. First off, some of you may not know, the spare tire is part of the "Safety" design on the Vipers. It is there not only for a spare tire, but also to help absorb a rear end collision, to prevent the gas tank from being compromised, which is sitting directly behind the seats. Another problem is, it's permanent. It looks really cool, but it will be part of the selling point of the car weather you like it or not if you ever choose to sell the car. And the final problem is the sheer "weight". Usually custom setups that consist of many woofers and amps stacked up are heavy and when you want to go squeeze out some really fast passes at the track, your time will suffer because of the added weight.
Another option would be a common subwoofer box.
You can find a typical carpeted sub box, bolt an amp on it and set it back there above the spare tire. This "can" work but usually you can't find a box to fit back there in the provided area, and then you have to find a way to bolt it down so it won't flop around and cause other problems potentially breaking something because it's unsecure.
So...... What if I provided a GTS solution?
You can keep your spare tire for safety and the security of a last resort tire, to get you home. You can have the look and beauty of a Fiberglass CUSTOM / COMPETITION CAR AUDIO setup that is car show worthy and will win you trophies at the local car shows. This solution is already very light weight so it won't be adding too much more weight to your car and you can EASIELY, I REPEAT EASIELY & quickly quickly lose all of the weight, if you want to have a track outing and want to remove the entire audio setup and the spare tire as well. This would be affordable compared to the local expensive "custom" fabricated "permanent" installer. This will also allow you to use your stock Amplifier with the "Stage 1" solution. Oh, and I forgot to mention... BASS THAT SHAKES YOUR CLOTHES AND YOU CAN HEAR IT FOR BLOCKS AWAY! (The "Stage 2" solution will be slightly more expensive but will SHAKE YOUR BRAIN!)
Currently, I am almost done with a second design rev of this and have given it the "thumbs up" as far as achieving all of the solutions I mentioned above. I do still have a bit to go and there are still a few small design changes I need to make. I will have to build a few more of these "secret projects" before releasing the full details and pictures to all my Viper friends. As for now, since I have been spending the last few weeks working on this, I wanted to see if anyone would be interested.
P.S. If this works out as planned, I would like to move forward with an SRT solution as well and see about trying to create something for the RT/10 folks too, but that will be a while.
Thanks!
Paul Daniels -FROG-
Hello folks. Lots of new faces around here since I have been MIA for the past year from the Viper boards. (Since I have been gone so long and feel many of you may be interested in this, I'll be posting this on the popular Viper boards.) Since I have a local Exotic Car message board I manage now and been so busy with life in general, brand new house, etc... I have neglected the Viper boards and need a spanking I'll admit! But take a look below and let me know your thoughts and questions.
So, what is this thread all about? Well, since I have been working with audio for the last 20 years, I decided to take on a project that ALL GTS Viper owners can take advantage of and I wanted to test the waters to see who all would be interested in this. Most of you newer guys, obviously since I haven't posted much on here in the last year, won't know who I am but the older folks here may can vouch for me and a bit of my knowledge on Vipers since I have torn a few apart over the last few years. So what do I have that may interest you GTS guys?
Well, I don't want to give away all my secrets about this project. ESPECIALLY since I am still in the design phase, but closing in on a final "product" that I hope to present to you guys soon. I'm not one to "flake out" in the end unless there is a valid reason and road block but I do not see anything preventing me from making something happen here, so here we go...
Why am I doing this?
Well, I have always been a "BASS HEAD" and have had all kinds of ******** audio setups in my cars since the early 90's. From 18's to multiple 15's and all others in between, I have toyed around with hundreds of speakers and enclosures and even now, for money on the side I deal with home and car audio. I have had an RT/10 (May have future ideas for that later down the road) and a GTS. Unlike the RT/10, the GTS has hope for some good bass, so using my skills and experience with this, I wanted to make something for myself and others to potentially enjoy.
What are the Options, Obstacles?
There are a few "typical" options people have gone with, in the past, to get some good bass in their GTS. If anyone wants a custom audio setup, consisting of a few subwoofers and an amp in the back hatch area they can go to their local Audio dealer / Professional installer and literally spend thousands on a custom audio fiberglass molded enclosure, which usually consists of removing the spare tire and permanently installing alot of messy fiberglass with permanently mounted subs and amps in your trunk.
What are the problems with a Custom fiberglass mold?
Well, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING if you want your Viper to look bad ass and have a custom "Show Quality" setup that anyone could respect and admire. However, this is very expensive, impractical and somewhat unsafe and here's why. First off, some of you may not know, the spare tire is part of the "Safety" design on the Vipers. It is there not only for a spare tire, but also to help absorb a rear end collision, to prevent the gas tank from being compromised, which is sitting directly behind the seats. Another problem is, it's permanent. It looks really cool, but it will be part of the selling point of the car weather you like it or not if you ever choose to sell the car. And the final problem is the sheer "weight". Usually custom setups that consist of many woofers and amps stacked up are heavy and when you want to go squeeze out some really fast passes at the track, your time will suffer because of the added weight.
Another option would be a common subwoofer box.
You can find a typical carpeted sub box, bolt an amp on it and set it back there above the spare tire. This "can" work but usually you can't find a box to fit back there in the provided area, and then you have to find a way to bolt it down so it won't flop around and cause other problems potentially breaking something because it's unsecure.
So...... What if I provided a GTS solution?
You can keep your spare tire for safety and the security of a last resort tire, to get you home. You can have the look and beauty of a Fiberglass CUSTOM / COMPETITION CAR AUDIO setup that is car show worthy and will win you trophies at the local car shows. This solution is already very light weight so it won't be adding too much more weight to your car and you can EASIELY, I REPEAT EASIELY & quickly quickly lose all of the weight, if you want to have a track outing and want to remove the entire audio setup and the spare tire as well. This would be affordable compared to the local expensive "custom" fabricated "permanent" installer. This will also allow you to use your stock Amplifier with the "Stage 1" solution. Oh, and I forgot to mention... BASS THAT SHAKES YOUR CLOTHES AND YOU CAN HEAR IT FOR BLOCKS AWAY! (The "Stage 2" solution will be slightly more expensive but will SHAKE YOUR BRAIN!)
Currently, I am almost done with a second design rev of this and have given it the "thumbs up" as far as achieving all of the solutions I mentioned above. I do still have a bit to go and there are still a few small design changes I need to make. I will have to build a few more of these "secret projects" before releasing the full details and pictures to all my Viper friends. As for now, since I have been spending the last few weeks working on this, I wanted to see if anyone would be interested.
P.S. If this works out as planned, I would like to move forward with an SRT solution as well and see about trying to create something for the RT/10 folks too, but that will be a while.
Thanks!
Paul Daniels -FROG-
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