What is a good price for a 2008 ACR Rebuild Title?

natsfan · Mar 12, 2014

Just saw a 2008 ACR with 8K miles pop up on Autotrader for $50K. It is a rebuild. Was crashed on the driver side and the bumper, fender, quarter panel, and rear bumper had to be replaced. It looks good in the pictures, but that is all I know about it. I am currently on the hunt for a 01-02 Gen 2 ACR, but would love to get a a Gen 4 ACR. However, I am trying to avoid spending the $70-80K to get one. However, this rebuild would be very tempting for the right price.

What do you all think? What is a good price? I think $50K is still too high.

Thanks for the advice in advance.

Dom426h · Mar 12, 2014

Wow.......

bmw2nv2000 · Mar 12, 2014

Holly crap. $50k is bad cheap for even rebuilt. I would guess 55-60k depending on color and miles and of course quality of repairs

Mopar Steve · Mar 12, 2014

50 sounds like a deal, but only if it was done right. First have a good track and body guy inspect it second be sure your insurance company will cover it. Many will not.

denniskgb · Mar 12, 2014

Mopar Steve said:
50 sounds like a deal, but only if it was done right. First have a good track and body guy inspect it second be sure your insurance company will cover it. Many will not.

It can turn out like a good looking girl with herpies. Have some one look this car over.

Bill Pemberton Woodhouse · Mar 12, 2014

Let's see.........................a salvage title Viper, so, no extended service contract possibilities, many Banks will not finance, how good was the rebuild, frame issues, etc. Never will be worth much, so with so little information and many negative intangibles 50K could be good or too high. These cars still need to go on a lift and in my mind may make a good race car/track car, but it will never be a solid citizen to most Viper buyers, so buyer beware.

MoparMap · Mar 12, 2014

Seems kind of humorous to think a rebuilt car would be well suited for a track car as opposed to a regular driver. Gotta figure there would be a lot more stress on parts with tracking than just regular driving, though it would be less of a loss if something happened to it while racing. I understand many are very particular about their cars as well, so it's understandable. I've learned to get over panel gaps and paint scratches. It's way more fun to drive the car than look at it for me at least.

ViperJohn · Mar 12, 2014

denniskgb said:
It can turn out like a good looking girl with herpies. Have some one look this car over.

That pretty much sums it up.

TAXIMAN1 · Mar 12, 2014

MoparMap said:
Seems kind of humorous to think a rebuilt car would be well suited for a track car as opposed to a regular driver. Gotta figure there would be a lot more stress on parts with tracking than just regular driving, though it would be less of a loss if something happened to it while racing. I understand many are very particular about their cars as well, so it's understandable. I've learned to get over panel gaps and paint scratches. It's way more fun to drive the car than look at it for me at least.

EXACTLY. If anything, the opposite is true.. The rebuilt car would be better for the street, under condtions where the car is not run under high stress and high speeds (most of the time, anyway,lol)...

AS we speak, there is a very nice, what looks to be pretty original looking 2008 ACR, on skeebay, for mid-upper 60's.(VCA owner trade in for a Gen5 I believe)... (asking 69k). And I have seen several of these 08 ACR change hands in the mid-upper 60's range.. Why would you buy a salvage car for that small difference.? I use the 50% rule... Which means if a decent 08 ACR can be had for lets say 67k. A salvage car wouldnt be "interesting" unless it were in the low $30's.....

natsfan · Mar 12, 2014

I have a friend who is big into corvettes and uses the 50%. He will buy them to use on the track and in autocross. I agree you would want to see this car in the 30k range to really make it worth it.

Oh and the herpies comment had me laughing pretty hard.

Thanks all for the advice.

Timnineside · Mar 12, 2014

That's a good deal. Snag it up if it checks out.

Timnineside · Mar 12, 2014

FYI, that car doesn't have ACR wheels. Also it had frame damage left rear. I looked at buying this car when it was wrecked.

Google the VIN. You'll find some pre-wreck and post wreck images.

-Tim

Bill Pemberton Woodhouse · Mar 13, 2014

Race car ---- not as big a concern for a car that has been damaged, but in doing a rebuild and putting in a cage all the concerns would be viewed and addressed differently. Likely would be much stronger and gone over way more thoroughly than just a rebuilder for the street. Logic that it would be better for the street negates the fact that anyone setting up for the track has to meet classifications for most race series out there, and they are going to double check things due to constant high speeds. Seen tons of salvage and rebuilt Snakes and most have been very questionable, yet the race cars that have come from damaged Snakes are taken to a different level ----- not easy to get cars through tech with most race organizations if cobbled together.

MoparMap · Mar 14, 2014

Didn't think about caging one and everything involved in that. I guessed at the least that they would typically be inspected a little closer and put under some more scrutiny, but still seemed a little funny how the damaged cars seem to end up in the harder profession. Just seems a little opposite of what you'd expect off the top of your head. I guess you figure if you're going to gut it and beef it up anyway it's easier to start with something less expensive.

mbccenter · Mar 14, 2014

The car sold already and was a steel at that price if it was fixed properly. That would be the big if. I am building one now and I will have more than that in it but I do not cut any corners and mine will be perfect when done.

Bill Pemberton Woodhouse · Mar 15, 2014

Alot of track cars came from rebuildable or salvage machines --easier to start with a car that is less expensive is correct, and regardless of what folks want to assume, rebuildable/salvage Vipers have a much lower overall value and can have a tough time getting financed if necessary, plus they will never be in a position to get any warranty coverage even if current (let alone an extended service contract). Just a buyer beware, and just think of yourselves as a consumer today, do you ever begin considering a car without a Carfax or Autocheck. Even a small accident reduces the value on vehicles today, so just figure what a salvage title does to the average buyer's mind.

bmw2nv2000 · Mar 15, 2014

Like Matt im also rebuilding an 08 acr and will def have more than $50k in it. This car was def a steal thats why i bought it

mbccenter · Mar 15, 2014

bmw2nv2000 said:
Like Matt im also rebuilding an 08 acr and will def have more than $50k in it. This car was def a steal thats why i bought it

Dirty dog. I tried to buy it

. Hesitate and loose the deal I guess. Let me know how it turns out.

bmw2nv2000 · Mar 15, 2014

Lol. Dang Matt my bad. But i couldnt be happier this thing is solid as a rock. You know once i figure out which one im gonna keep ill be putting the new headers and 3.5 exhaust. If i can get a good deal on them

ROCKET62 · Mar 15, 2014

Typically a rebuilt vehicle will command 20-25% less than a non-salvage. Warranty coverage on a 2008

- already expired and any issues are taken into account in the lower price. Just about EVERY wrecked Viper will have some sort of "frame" damage as the front and rear frame horns are exposed, bend easily, and repair easily. The Viper frame between the wheels is incredible stout - and I would stay away if there was frame damage between the wheels. I'm driving my second rebuilt Viper and would definitely buy a salvage if you could confirm it was done properly - which is why I took hundreds of pictures and saved every receipt when I rebuilt mine. It was a fun project that allowed me to do some custom things and pride of doing the project myself is priceless.

MoparMap · Mar 16, 2014

That was one nice thing about the Viper that the engineering team kept in mind. They specifically mentioned the plain steel rails on the new car because they wanted the cars to be repairable down the road. Wreck a carbon tub chassis car and it'll never really be the same. Bend some metal and you can usually work it back into position without much structural impact if it's not real mangled to begin with.

bmw2nv2000 · Mar 16, 2014

MoparMap said:
That was one nice thing about the Viper that the engineering team kept in mind. They specifically mentioned the plain steel rails on the new car because they wanted the cars to be repairable down the road. Wreck a carbon tub chassis car and it'll never really be the same. Bend some metal and you can usually work it back into position without much structural impact if it's not real mangled to begin with.

Very Well Said!!! Standard metal frames can be pulled back into proper position very easily by a certified frame guy

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