17'' Michelin Pilot Sport: ZR or YR?

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17\'\' Michelin Pilot Sport: ZR or YR?

Hi!
I need to change my rear tires. My stock Pilot MXX3 were 335/35ZR17 and the sticker in the driver side door indicates the same speed rating.
I looked at Tirerack and they only have 335/35YR17.
Are the YR the only available in 17'' or the ZR also exist?
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Re: 17\'\' Michelin Pilot Sport: ZR or YR?

When Z-speed rated tires were first introduced, they were thought to reflect the highest tire speed rating that would ever be required, in excess of 240 km/h or 149 mph. While Z-speed rated tires are capable of speeds in excess of 149 mph, how far above 149 mph was not identified. That ultimately caused the automotive industry to add W- and Y-speed ratings to identify the tires that meet the needs of new vehicles that have extremely high top-speed capabilities.

W 168 mph 270 km/h Exotic Sports Cars
Y 186 mph 300 km/h Exotic Sports Cars

While a Z-speed rating still often appears in the tire size designation of these tires, such as 225/50ZR16 91W, the Z in the size signifies a maximum speed capability in excess of 149 mph, 240 km/h; the W in the service description indicates the tire's 168 mph, 270 km/h maximum speed.

225/50ZR16 in excess of 149 mph, 240 km/h
205/45ZR17 88W 168 mph, 270 km/h
285/35ZR19 99Y 186 mph, 300 km/h

Most recently, when the Y-speed rating indicated in a service description is enclosed in parentheses, such as 285/35ZR19 (99Y), the top speed of the tire has been tested in excess of 186 mph, 300 km/h indicated by the service description as shown below:

285/35ZR19 99Y 186 mph, 300 km/h
285/35ZR19 (99Y) in excess of 186 mph, 300 km/h

As vehicles have increased their top speeds into Autobahn-only ranges, the tire speed ratings have evolved to better identify the tires capability, allowing drivers to match the speed of their tires with the top speed of their vehicle.
 

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Re: 17\'\' Michelin Pilot Sport: ZR or YR?

Great description, thanks Mary! A quick question, though. If we don't plan on taking the car above 120-130 do we still benefit from the higher speed rated tire or should we go down?
 
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Re: 17\'\' Michelin Pilot Sport: ZR or YR?

Thanks Marv S for the info.
So the 335/35YR17 are the same than 335/35ZR17 ???
But I'm still wondering why 17'' are 335/35YR17 with service description 106Y when 18'' are 335/30ZR18 with service description 102Y.
Can someone with 17'' Pilots Sport tell me if he has ZR or YR please?
Do the Pilots Sport 335/35ZR17 exist?
I'm still confused with that story.
Thanks!
jp
 

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Re: 17\'\' Michelin Pilot Sport: ZR or YR?

Michelin Tire Sizes column for Pilot Sports are All listed as a "Z" tire. You have to look at the "Service Description" for the speed rating and they are almost all a "Y" rating.

Check out The Michelin Spec sheet for Pilot Sports http://www.michelinman.com/assets/pdfs/doc_pilotsport.pdf

There are 3 tires that carry a special "Viper OEM" part number evidenced by the "C1" designation. They are the 18" & 19" Zero Pressure Pilot Sports for the SRT line and the 18" size 275-35-18 for the Gen 2 1999-2002.

No 17" (front or rear) or 335*30*18 (rear) Pilot Sport had the C1 label.

For us on 17" rims the news is that the Pilot Sport 2 tire will be out soon in our sizes. (They are a better drive than the Pilot Sport) http://www.michelinman.com/assets/pdfs/doc_pilotsportps2.pdf No word on when they will be out in 18" Viper Sizes



But I'm still wondering why 17'' are 335/35YR17 with service description 106Y when 18'' are 335/30ZR18 with service description 102Y.
Can someone with 17'' Pilots Sport tell me if he has ZR or YR please?
Do the Pilots Sport 335/35ZR17 exist?
I'm still confused with that story.
Thanks!
jp
 
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