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Fueling an RT10......Problems?

Discussion in 'RT/10 and GTS Discussions' started by Steve Miehe, Feb 28, 2002.

  1. Steve Miehe

    Steve Miehe Enthusiast

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    There was a post recently where some folks indicated problems getting fuel into their RT10 - fuel handle kept clicking off as if the tank was full but there was plenty of room for more. My '01 has this problem and am looking for a fix. Has anyone figured out a solution for this problem??
     
  2. Craig 201 MPH

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    Try turning the handle upside down.

    Meaning the bottom of the handle is facing upward.

    Craig
     
  3. Steve Miehe

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    Craig:

    Have tried turning it sideways and no dice. Will try what you suggest the next time to gas it up.

    Thanks,
    Steve
     
  4. Vip-RT10

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    When i fuel, i do like Craig said and have no problems, only fuel gushing out at times.
     
  5. Doug Supercharged Vipers

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    Unfortunately, you have a bad (or stuck) rollover valve. The valve is stuck in the closed position on the fuel fill entry. Your lucky, the 01 has a valve that can be removed for service but must be facilitated from inside the tank. If you own a GTS it's much easier to service - you must remove the fuel module. If you own an RT/10, it's easier to change your religion - you must remove the tank. You can try to pour some type of cleaning agent (marvel mystery oil) or slide a small fuel line down the fuel fill hose to break the valve free. Usually when this type of problem occurs, it's because the car sat for some period of time or was a leftover from the dealer.

    Good luck I hope this helps,
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  6. slaughterj

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    Once in a rare while (2 or 3 times in 12K+ miles), mine will stop early when filling up, about 2 gallons shy of full, not the standard "tank is full" cutoff. Is this your problem, or just any point at filling?
     
  7. SoCal Rebell

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    Try a different gas pump, mine used to do this at this one pump but when I went to another pump it was fine.
     
  8. David Jenkins

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    There's a vent hose on some of the late R/T's that kinks. You have to remove the rt. wheel and loosen the inner fender well for access. Should be covered under the warranty. Or like Doug said, rollover is stuck.dj
     
  9. Steve Miehe

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    SlaughterJ:

    The handle clicks off every tenth of a gallon or so. After putting about 3 gallons of fuel in the car, I'm frustrated to where I just head home.
     
  10. Steve Miehe

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    Just wanted to say thanks to all that responded. Am working on getting the problem corrected.
     
  11. slaughterj

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    <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Steve Miehe:
    SlaughterJ:

    The handle clicks off every tenth of a gallon or so. After putting about 3 gallons of fuel in the car, I'm frustrated to where I just head home.
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    Definitely different than my rare experience, doesn't sound like too many possibilities given the responses above. Good luck with it!
     
  12. Tom F&L GoR

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    My '94 fills fine when the engine is off; constantly clicks off when the engine is running. Perhaps the return line foams the fuel near the filler pipe and sends a false foam signal (FFS)? Maybe I invented a new term...
     
  13. Vip-RT10

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    Tom, F&L GoR....TURN THE CAR OFF BEFORE FUELING!!!!! Static electricity may ignite gas fumes...Geeze....
     
  14. Tom F&L GoR

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    Vip-RT10 has a good comment about static.

    The static electricity problem is when re-entering or exiting the vehicle and your body brings a static charge to the refueling location. Reaching for the nozzle (or anywhere the vapors are) creates the spark that may ignite the fuel vapors.

    I don't like to leave the nozzle unattended. I hold onto the nozzle, which keeps me grounded (the hose is conductive) and the concrete should also be conductive (special concrete slabs.) Other types of surfaces are likely obsolete due to enviromental ground contamination issues.

    The static electricity-explosion hazard isn't generated because the engine is running. In fact, some can start by reaching for the cap and removing it. Engine-off warnings are aimed at back-fires (pre-catalyst car days) and now more emissions related (charcoal cannister vents to gas tank, pressure is monitored or used by some systems.) In any event, Dodge has made it self-correcting, since I can't refuel with a running engine anyway.

    static fire reports
     
  15. Andrew2KRT10

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    I just go slow and no problems...

    AC
     
  16. Steve Miehe

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    Andy:

    If I went any slower, I'd be going backwards!!!

    SM
     
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    I know this is and old thread, But I am just getting around to replying with pictures.
    My RT has the same problem the only way I have found to get gas in it is to have the handle upside down to the way you would normally use it.
    Most of the time I can get it to run at the slowest notch but sometimes I still have to hold it.

    viper gas 1.jpg viper gas 2.jpg
     
  18. CEJ

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    I'll try that next time. Mine also can be hard to fill at times. Thanks jwolf.
     
  19. MoparMap

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    Yeah, on my 67 Dart I have to fill it on the slowest click or sometimes I have to manually hold it even slower than that. I put in an aftermarket tank with a built in pump and between the vent line being small and losing a baffle that runs down the fill neck it just doesn't exhaust air as fast and the tank fills. I've had it burp a fair amount of gas out several times when filling, not the most fun to clean up and dangerous at times.
     
  20. dmerkle

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    My 2000 RT/10 never seems to cooperate at the pump, regardless of how much is in the tank, always clicks off after 2-3 seconds of filling.
    Neither rotating the handle or using the lowest fill setting have helped for me.
    This weekend though, I was able to pump in 9 gallons without one click off.
    Put the nozzle in but put my finger under the contact point between the pump handle and the body.
    Then pushed up on the handle, as in trying to move my hand toward the center of the trunk.
     
  21. scottmarston

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    Don't shove the nozzle in all the way and it won't click...mine fills up just fine. Have to be aware of the gallons you're putting in or you will fill it to the brim. If you listen closely for a change in pitch, you can tell when the tank is almost full.
     
  22. Grisoman

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    Woah is that hose touching your car?? Don't tell me you use the two-bucket car wash method as well.
     
  23. Grisoman

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    No issues herewith fill ps. Fuel gauge nose dive after the half hash mark is another story.
     
  24. VYPR BYT 94

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    It's like when you use a funnel to fill a mower. When you fill it so fast the air flow gets choked off then it backs up to the top of the funnel, right?
    Well the safety equipment detects this and trips off. Obviously every pump will be different.
    By turning it upside down you literally "flatten" out or squash the round pattern of the gas, thereby allowing more room for air. That is why it works.
     

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