ntmatter
Enthusiast
I\'m tired of front plate tickets, need help getting a permanent waiver
I got nicked the other day for no front plate - first time being written up after probably 5 pull-overs for front plate. So, because I'm feeling ornery, I'm going to fight it and see about getting a permanent dispensation for not having a front plate. What I'd like to do is go into court and be able to convincingly say:
1. Dodge Vipers do not come with a front plate bracket built-in.
2. The aftermarket brackets are held on with suction cups, which isn't safe
3. (optionally) Vipers run hot and have emmissions issues if they have a front plate
Here's where I need help: I have the PDF version of the parts catalog, and can't find a front plate bracket anywhere in it. This is good, because it would help me make the argument that the cars don't come with front plates. But, if someone knows more about the FACTORY front plate bracket, and could provide documentation for the rumors I've heard that you have to drill your fascia to install it, I'd appreciate the information. I'll print out pictures of the suction cups and foam-rubber holders, hopefully the judge will agree that these are not especially safe. Yes, I know that there are bolt-in versions that go on your airbox, but I want to keep things nice and simple. Finally, I've heard that Dodge couldn't emissions-certify the cars with front plates. Can anyone confirm that this is true? If so, (or if there are additional reasons that Dodge didn't put a front plate on) I'd appreciate any documentation that anyone can send me.
My goal in all of this is to get a letter I can carry around to show the police that I don't need a front plate. If it works out, I'd also like to get the documentation together as an illustrated upgrade (which it it, sort of) as a resource to other Viper owners.
Thanks for any help or advice,
Andy
I got nicked the other day for no front plate - first time being written up after probably 5 pull-overs for front plate. So, because I'm feeling ornery, I'm going to fight it and see about getting a permanent dispensation for not having a front plate. What I'd like to do is go into court and be able to convincingly say:
1. Dodge Vipers do not come with a front plate bracket built-in.
2. The aftermarket brackets are held on with suction cups, which isn't safe
3. (optionally) Vipers run hot and have emmissions issues if they have a front plate
Here's where I need help: I have the PDF version of the parts catalog, and can't find a front plate bracket anywhere in it. This is good, because it would help me make the argument that the cars don't come with front plates. But, if someone knows more about the FACTORY front plate bracket, and could provide documentation for the rumors I've heard that you have to drill your fascia to install it, I'd appreciate the information. I'll print out pictures of the suction cups and foam-rubber holders, hopefully the judge will agree that these are not especially safe. Yes, I know that there are bolt-in versions that go on your airbox, but I want to keep things nice and simple. Finally, I've heard that Dodge couldn't emissions-certify the cars with front plates. Can anyone confirm that this is true? If so, (or if there are additional reasons that Dodge didn't put a front plate on) I'd appreciate any documentation that anyone can send me.
My goal in all of this is to get a letter I can carry around to show the police that I don't need a front plate. If it works out, I'd also like to get the documentation together as an illustrated upgrade (which it it, sort of) as a resource to other Viper owners.
Thanks for any help or advice,
Andy