What to look for when buying a used Viper.. Warning signs, etc.

Falconeer

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Hi all..

I'm close to buying my first Viper. It's a 1998 GTS Coupé.. the most beautiful car I have ever seen.

What I'm interested in knowing, and I know you can help me, is what to look for when inspecting the car. What parts are crucial to check and what are the typical warning signs?

Thanks in advance!
Erik
 

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How many miles are on it? What State isit located in? How many prior owners?
 

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Do not trust miles on odometer, get the VIN and a complete Carfax. Check condition of tires and rims; they are expensive.
And the best hint I can give: Have someone from VCA with experience with you when you visit the car first time.
 

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There are many things you can do & most are obvious re: have a viper tech thoroughly check out the car including verification that necessary recalls have been performed, etc. There's also car fax verification, etc.

My 30 second "acid test" is simply to look under the front fascia. A few nicks and scrapes are unavoidable if the car is driven at all, but a massive number of scrapes and gouges are suggestive of rough treatment.
 

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Here is a good article about buying used Vipers:

http://www.viperclub.org/articles/buyviper/

While I didn't read it completely this time, I do know a few things to look for are:

1. Condition of the rear wheel-wells. Extensive chipping/tire rubber tells you this car has been run. Not always a bad thing, but beware if they say it was a garage queen - unless they lived on a gravel road.

2. Check for curb rash and alignment. Not cheap to re-align a Viper.

3. Get it up on a rack and look for oil leaks, etc.

4. Take it to a certified Viper tech in your area (or at least a trusted mechanic) and have them look it over.

Good luck!
 

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Hi all..

I'm close to buying my first Viper. It's a 1998 GTS Coupé.. the most beautiful car I have ever seen.
Loose the accent mark over the e. It's an American car and Coupe has one syllable. :D
 

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Look at the front calipers. They have a rubber coating with a bright white VIPER written on them. If a car has been tracked the VIPER will start to brown from heat.

Look at the brake fluid. If an owner really took car of the car it will be clear or light brown. If it is black and dirty they it was not changed.

Check the Power Steering fluid. Vipers tend to overheat the pump and burn the fluid.

Look under the hood. A true Viper poser will have a spotless engine bay!

Most Vipers have been modified to some extent. This in itself is not a bad thing. However, if you have massive mods you should question them as to the cars racing history (either on the track or on the road).
 

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Beat the living c.r.a.p. out of it on a test drive. Take an on-ramp at 80, followed by a Launch from a stop light at 4500 and then while your on the express way pull the emergency brake and cut the wheel. If you don't like the way it performed hand the keys back. J/K Start under the car and work you're way up. Leaks, Rust, Damage, Body Alignment, Miles. You'll know a pristine car when you see it. Low miles, Spotless under the hood and outside of it. No leaks, CLEAN CARFAX, Drives great. And if your lucky an "incredibly anal" previous owner.

Have an nice day

~Matt~
 

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Search ViperJoe's posts, he has responded to numerous threads identical to this, posting a list I made when I was searching over 3 years ago, as well as a few other considerations that have been added along the way.
 

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Since I just a bought a 98 GTS myself, let me tell you what I learned . . .

1) does the air conditioning blow cold (my did not - cost = $215 service visit for charge). Luckily it is a good time of year to test this.

2) do the doors stay open (my passenger is OK, but Driver's will not stay open). When the hinges wear out, the detent feature goes bad (it is one of the embarassingly low tech features of the Viper) and the door will not prop open (real PITA when trying to work on or get into the Viper). Only way to fix with with a new hinge which is $250 retail.

3) weather-stipping around doors. Vipers wear these out. You can cheat and color the white fibers that show back to black with a Sharpie, but otherwise they will need replacing (not sure of pricing on those, haven't order them yet).

4) interior issues: are the little cargo nets in the interior stretched out of shape? They are not expensive, but a PITA to install (upper one requires the headliner to be removed to get to the fasteners). Are shift and E-brake boots dry and carcked. Not a big deal as new not too expensive, easy to install, and you might want to have a custom color made anyway. Also check "trim bulkhead panel" behind seats, specifically the top edge that transitions into the hatch area. This is really a cheesily made piece and one corner of mine was cracked and sticking up. If you are a do-it-yourselfer you can glue it (I did), but the new part is expensive and might be hard to install. Also, are the 29 black trim screws in the interior that have tapered heads and tapered washers present and in good shape. Some of mine were missing and others rusted badly (sign of a car that was not well cared for, but I paid an appropriate price). Retail on these guys is $4.50/each. Ouch! Check the little trim pieces that go around the interior door handles. To remove them you pull toward the rear of the car and they pop right out. If someone has glued them in (they do not stay on very well) beware that there might be more "rigging" in the interior to match - especially if the car has a stereo installed. After spending a day taking my interior apart on mission to end all squeaks and rattles, I am disgusted at the number of hacks the stereo intallers left. Really uncalled for (a great argument for buying a car with the stock stereo in my book). Make sure the plastic loops that screw into the seats and hold the seat belts are there (very cheesy piece that is easy to break).

5) look for missing parts. This is kind of tough if you are not used to looking at Vipers. For example, my car is missing a piece of plastic inner fender on the driver's side the goes right behind the headlight, and I think I am missing a trim panel on the driver's side of the hatch/spare tire area (not sure about this yet - more dastardly doings by the stereo installers I fear).

6) make sure the car has clean, functioning air filters. Seems to me that lots of Viper guys are interested in playing games with air filters.

7) have the exhaust tips cooked the rear lower facia? This is a problem on many aftermarket exhausts.

If you have not already set a price, show the sellers the scrapes under the front end, and show him how badly the emergency exit handles on the "B" pillar of the door squeak, then push on the top rear corner of the interior door trim panels and show him how badly those squeak and make faces all the while about how disgusted you are. Might help getting that extra $500 out of him (which you can put toward your short gears!!).
 

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Re: Since I just a bought a 98 GTS myself, let me tell you what I learned . . .

Interior tones must match perfectly, and only buy the fifth one you go and see!
 
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Thanks..

Thanks a lot for all the advise!

The person who is selling me the car seems very trustworthy, so I don't think I will run into any problems. And now I'm sure that it's gonna be a great deal, just as long as the car passes a thorough investigation.

Can't wait to drive the snake :laugh:

Until next time.. take care all!
Erik
 
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