Why Can't Someone Sell Their VCA Car?

[SRTRICKY]

Why Can\'t Someone Sell Their VCA Car?

Alright well guys I'd hate to get flamed but I don't understand why people are so mad about others trying to sell their yellow vca vipers on ebay or while they were at voi8. I mean when someone wins the lottery no one screams and yells about why the person isn't donating money to charity or why they are spending it on whatever they are spending it on. So why do people get so mad when someone WINS the right to buy the car and then sells it. They won the right to buy it and if they didn't win its not like they would have got their money back for the ticket they purchases (they took their chances) and they didn't get a discount price or anything so I would assume its like paying a dollar for winning the lottery and then when you win the money people are telling you what to do with it. In this case you win the viper pay for it and now people are teling you what you can or can't do with it. Its about the owner that just gave a good *** of cash for a car if he wants to keep it or not in my opinion. I just don't understand.

 

[VOI9 ASP]

Re: Why Can\'t Someone Sell Their VCA Car?

Post by the VCA President in another string

Needless to say these were the rules from the program guidelines:

"No substitutions or transfers of this opportunity will be allowed. Do not attempt to sell this offer on E-Bay! If you do not comply with this request, you will forfeit future opportunities to participate in these types of programs."

and:

If you are unable to comply with all of these conditions, please don’t apply. We want to make sure that each application for a limited edition Viper SRT–10 is from a member who has the passion and the commitment to fulfill the program requirements."

I have already been told that we have plenty of enthusiastic participants that were not lucky enough to be picked that would jump at the chance of getting this vehicle, and I strongly urge this EBAY registrant (please read your e-mail, as one has already been sent to you) to delete his ad, and contact Viper Headquarters immediately to expedite this matter.



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VCA-National President

 

[Jay Herbert]

Re: Why Can\'t Someone Sell Their VCA Car?

Most will not touch this question with a ten foot pole, but what the heck, It's late.

The philosophy of the program clearly defined the purchase to be one by a member who agreed that their intentions where to use the vehicle for "their personal consumption" and NOT to broker the vehicle for profiteering and/or profit from a quick sale.

I suppose the bottom line is that many that entered the drawing for a chance to win one of these special limited edition vehicles wanted to actually own and enjoy the vehicle (which was the philosophy of the program). If a person participated for purely profit reasons, people who really wanted one to enjoy, were denied that opportunity.

Certainly buyers might not like the vehicle once they saw it in the flesh, but why not offer it for the price they paid to one of the others who originally entered the drawing? OK, so I live in a dream world of high ideals. I realize money seems to make the world go 'round, and in the end there is not much that can change that..

I know one that is for sale because the buyers wife "Did not agree with the purchase". We've all bought stuff we thought we could talk our spouses into liking, right? Well heck, sometimes that happens. But picking the car up in the morning, and sitting it near the entry to the convention center in the garage area with a for sale sign on it that afternoon just came across as tacky.

Just my humble opinion

 

[Y2K5SRT]

Re: Why Can\'t Someone Sell Their VCA Car?

The reason isn't that they can't do with it what they want. That is a given. The reason is that they are trying to instantly profit from something when others would have jumped at the chance to buy it at a more reasonable price. Let's try this analogy:

They just announced a big event in your area - a once in a lifetime deal. Let's say the last rock concert ever with your favorite band (Pink Floyd in my case) and there are only 1000 seats available. The morning the tickets go on sale you are there extra early and there are only a few guys in front of you in line, with hundreds behind you. Sure, the tickets have a face value of $200 each, but this is a chance you will never get again. The ticket office opens, and the people start shuffling forward. One guys seems to be up there FOREVER. Finally, your turn comes up and you practically run those two feet to the window. That is when they slap a big fat SOLD OUT sign right in front of your face. As you turn around in stunned disbelief, the guy that was up there so long holds up a *** of tickets and is offering them for only $1,000 each. And people are buying them so fast you don't know if you can even get them at that price.

So how do you feel? Happy? Overjoyed? Jealous? Or supremely **********? Now if this same scalper had been a little bit more discreet, no problem. If he sold them at face value to friends and relatives, then it wouldn't burn you as much. If he offered one to you at face value you would be positively ecstatic. He could even sell them at a profit somewhere else besides the actual line you just waited in for five hours and you wouldn't be so ticked off. Understand?

The 50 blue/white VCA Ram SRT-10's were HUGELY popular and I suspect the vast majority stayed with the original "winners" (that paid for them). The few that were turned inspired similar disgust because SO many wanted a shot at them when they could buy them for a more reasonable price. They also missed the cool delivery ceremony and track parade laps in Daytona just before the Daytona 500. Thus this particular "raffle" had several stipulations to try and avoid that situation. Which obviously didn't work.

There were a LOT of people that put in to buy one of these cars. They wanted them to keep and had no thought of profit. Now some of them got the chance but were lukewarm on the car. Figured they would see it in person in Dallas and then decide. A few of them have quite possibly sold those cars discreetly and with little or no profit. #32 (see other post) had to come from somewhere, but nobody is raising a fuss about it. What frosts people are when others are trying to INSTANTLY profit on these cars when so many others were begging to buy them at "cost" (whatever they negotiated with their favorite dealership). In other words, scalping. Don't forget that besides the price, they also missed out on being the "original" owner with their name on the window sticker and they didn't get to participate in a pretty cool delivery ceremony at VOI 8. All because somebody was looking to make a quick buck off of a fellow Viper owner (or a potential one). That just doesn't sit well with everybody.

 

[doctorbob]

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Way to put it Chris. I hope my brother-in-law got to you those pictures of leaving for Dallas. My SRT is in Phoenix for a tune up of all fluids and a new windshield (got hit by a huge rock in the visual section of the driver's side with a big crack and piece out of same) from a truck south of Telluride on the way back. I would be one of those "**********" VCA members and the scalper should be banned for life from any future VCA vehicle(truck/car) raffles or special offers.

 

[CTViper]

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I just bought my first Viper a 04 Red SRT/10 in Late march. Then I saw the opportunity to purchase the VCA special Edition. Not wanting to sell my 04. (Just spent $$$ on carbon Fiber dash, MGW, and Viper Trim, 3.55 gears, K & N, Pinstriping, Etc). I figured why not take a chance, I'll never win anyway! Well sure enough, I'm Picked, #22 out of 50! There were only around 153 people who took the chance i'm told. (My odds were Good!)! I talked to my Viper Tech, friend, and dealer (Chuck Tator)and he gave me a great price! Now I'm Going to Dallas! I figured if down the road if i wanted to sell it I wouldn't loose to much, being they only made 50 and Dodge was supposed to keep 3! I knew the rules. I was promised a 2003 by a dealer who i won't name here and laid out $5000 deposit a year before they were made. Only to find out that you had to have a certificate and he couldn't get any! My opinion is this: You knew the rules to recieve your Viper, if you didn't want it, it wasn't supposed to be an opportunity to make a $10000-$20000 profit! If that were the case i'm sure there would have been 500 owners or more in the raffle. I'm sure there is someone out of the 47 who really couldn't afford another Viper and needs to sell it. Or his wife is giving him grief and he has to unload it. This is the real world with real world problems. If the VCA can keep track of the owners who say sell them in the first 6 months, just don't give them a shot at the next VCA Specials.

 

[SRTRICKY]

Re: Why Can\'t Someone Sell Their VCA Car?

I understand where you guys are coming from......seems fair enough!

 

[Joseph Houss]

Re: Why Can\'t Someone Sell Their VCA Car?

Thank you all for confirming that our VCA program IS what you want!

These opportunities are hard to build, and it's only with the support of our friends at Dodge that these babies ever hit the streets.

They are honoring our VCA with a custom run of only 50 units, an amazing amount of work is necessary (as each paint color, trim change, decal, etc must go through the same stringent testing that a run of 10,000 units must go through).

It is up to us to make sure Dodge never looks at the program and says "Why are we making these custom vehicles for the VCA... if they're only brokering them for their own gains?"... because if that ever happens, you may as well kiss any future programs adios!

We've incorporated as many requests as possible into the program guidelines that we could, to make sure that each and every VCA edition vehicle ends up in a happy home, where the ORIGINAL owner will take pride in being part of this historic small run of documented, Dodge designed, VCA honored, awesome vehicles. We can only hope, that all potential participants realize that their thought of personal gains WOULD ruin the program forever.

...and by the way, for those that didn't here Mr Darryl Jackson's speach at the podium during the presentation of our Yellow Fever VCA edition SRT-10's ......

"YES! There will be another VCA edition vehicle!"

SWEEEEEET!

The bottom line is, so far, there is an overwhelming percentage of these VCA vehicles that are, and will continue to be, proudly owned by the original lucky opportunity winners!